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Dishez
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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes Blue-foot Pictures win a print! [Re: HerbBaker]
#8559259 - 06/24/08 05:38 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hmmmm, so I wonder if the contest is still on
Found these today... they match your macroscopic description exactly, and look exactly like the pics you have, hell...theyre even growing on a leaf! Im trying to get a print right now but its not likely, they dried out quite a bit by the time I got home. Habitat was deciduous forest/swamp. Found in NJ. Let me know if you need any other info.
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Dishez
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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes Blue-foot Pictures win a print! [Re: Dishez]
#8559280 - 06/24/08 05:48 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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FYI im not looking for an ID, these are being posted in response to the OP.
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Paulrus
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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes Blue-foot Pictures win a print! [Re: Dishez]
#8559284 - 06/24/08 05:49 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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I thought it was still a bit early for bluefoot season.
Edited by Paulrus (06/24/08 05:50 PM)
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Dishez
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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes Blue-foot Pictures win a print! [Re: Paulrus]
#8559295 - 06/24/08 05:56 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Its not unheard of for mushrooms, or any other life form for that matter, to grow out of season. Im not disputing you though. Im only posting these because they match warriorsouls wiki exactly.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes Blue-foot Pictures win a print! [Re: Dishez]
#8559334 - 06/24/08 06:11 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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I think the gills are too light for the stage of development they are in and that you have a light spored species.
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HerbBaker
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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes Blue-foot Pictures win a print! [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#8559353 - 06/24/08 06:17 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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also the gill spacing is to wide, these seem to match mycena.
nice pics though.. yes the contest is still on.
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Dishez
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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes Blue-foot Pictures win a print! [Re: HerbBaker]
#8559675 - 06/24/08 07:34 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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I agree, these are not caerulipes, but I DO think they are the same species as the first pics you posted (not the ones from the NA feild Guide). I have a really strong feeling that the sight you found them on is incorrect. The stem has the same exact coloration, the caps have the same color/texture and id venture to say that they would have the same gills. Also, in the wiki description, it mentions that the gills are light tan becoming rust brown with age.
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HerbBaker
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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes Blue-foot Pictures win a print! [Re: Dishez]
#8559824 - 06/24/08 08:11 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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no offense but..your speculating about the spore color.
A dark purple-brown spore print looks nothing like tan or white. I doubt even an amateur mycologist would make that mistake. also the stem coloration is not exactly the same, yours are darker. your gills look salmon or peach colored.
Edited by HerbBaker (06/24/08 08:29 PM)
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Dishez
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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes Blue-foot Pictures win a print! [Re: weiliiiiiii]
#8559995 - 06/24/08 08:41 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Again, I agree.I am speculating and i know its not the most productive of approaches; I apologize about that. I referenced the gill color directly from the wiki site. which states "Gills: Close to crowded, narrow with adnate to sinuate to uncinate attachment. They are light brown at first, becoming rusty cinnamon as the spores mature, edges whitish and slightly fimbriate."
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Dishez
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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes Blue-foot Pictures win a print! [Re: Dishez]
#8560072 - 06/24/08 09:01 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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BTW I respect your judgement warriorsoul. sorry if im coming across as an asshole. You're right, the stem coloration is darker in my pics.
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HerbBaker
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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes Blue-foot Pictures win a print! [Re: Dishez]
#8560522 - 06/24/08 11:17 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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I admire your desire to engage in meaningful conversation.
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DannyGlick
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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes Blue-foot Pictures win a print! [Re: HerbBaker]
#8561087 - 06/25/08 02:20 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yep Mycena.
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DannyGlick
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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes Blue-foot Pictures win a print! [Re: HerbBaker]
#8561101 - 06/25/08 02:32 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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There are no Psilocybe caerulipes.Extinct.
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HerbBaker
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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes Blue-foot Pictures win a print! [Re: DannyGlick]
#8561545 - 06/25/08 08:08 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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That is actually possible, but hopefully not too likely, caerulipes is widely distributed, that puts the odds of survival in its favour. Your statement does highlight the need to collect and preserve any caerulipes finds.
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HerbBaker
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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes Blue-foot Pictures win a print! [Re: HerbBaker]
#8561635 - 06/25/08 08:49 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's not caerulipes, but what is it? Date de cueillette = 2006.09.07 Récolté par Roland Labbé. Odeur fortement raphanoïde. Saveur non disponible. Habitat = forêt de feuillus. Bord de route, parmi feuilles. Sporée non disponible. Spores mesurées sur spécimen = "environ" 7 x 9 µm Pleurocystides nombreuses, avec *extrême apex à paroi parfois épaissie et plus foncée. Cheilocystides très abondantes. Basides tétrasporiques.
here is a rough translation date of collection sept 7, 2006 by Roland Labbé. Odor strongly raphanoïde. Savour nonavailable. Habitat = forest of leafy trees. Edge of road, among sheets. Sporée nonavailable. Spores measured on specimen = " environ" 7 X 9 µm Pleurocystides many, with *extrême apex with sometimes thickened and darker wall. Cheilocystides very abundant. Basides tetrasporic.
-------------------- Some things can grow without the light.--RJD
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Dishez
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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes Blue-foot Pictures win a print! [Re: HerbBaker]
#8561874 - 06/25/08 10:17 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Warrior...theres no chance that the psilocybes you found last fall are caerulipes? im guessing its the size that eliminates that possibility?
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HerbBaker
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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes Blue-foot Pictures win a print! [Re: Dishez]
#8561915 - 06/25/08 10:35 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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No chance.. The size as well as the shape of certain microscopic features are too different.
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Alan Rockefeller
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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes Blue-foot Pictures win a print! [Re: HerbBaker]
#8562148 - 06/25/08 11:34 AM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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HerbBaker
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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes Blue-foot Pictures win a print! [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
#8562592 - 06/25/08 01:16 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Indeed, the short stem length 4.5 cm (max) matches well. These are a nice addition to the few pics of quebecensis, you can really see the similarity to baeocystis.
Edited by HerbBaker (06/25/08 06:02 PM)
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HerbBaker
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Re: Psilocybe caerulipes Blue-foot Pictures win a print! [Re: HerbBaker]
#8563891 - 06/25/08 07:02 PM (15 years, 9 months ago) |
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Psilocybe quebecensis, section Aztecorum
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