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#8335303 - 04/27/08 06:32 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Good morning. I am Leow from Malaysia. My hobby is to cultivate the edible mushrooms. Recently, I am try to cultivate Cordyceps militaris in my laboratory. Initially, the extension of mycelia are well growing but there was some limitation to reach fruiting stage. Even primodia, it also could not be found in my sample. Is it caused by the strain problem or others?
Could you give me some hints on how to solve this problem. Thanks!
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation [Re: leowch78]
#8335403 - 04/27/08 06:55 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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What kind of bugs are you growing them on...
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation [Re: Brainiac]
#8335428 - 04/27/08 07:01 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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What kind of bugs are you growing them on...
not a question you have to ask everyday in the cultivation furum
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation [Re: grod31]
#8336430 - 04/28/08 12:09 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Dude those things are so creepy. What if they evolved to be able to possess humans like they do ants?? We'd be mindlessly climbing to the top of trees while a mushroom grew out of our heads spreading it to the other people who looked on at the freakish sight...whoa.. :p
Sorry. . .It is a incredibly sci-fi freaky life form though.
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation [Re: the_0wl]
#8336788 - 04/28/08 05:34 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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respect for trying. they are one damned interesting fungi. unfortunately i have nothing useful to say though...good luck!
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation (moved)
#8336897 - 04/28/08 07:29 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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 This thread was moved from Mushroom Cultivation.
Reason:
better suited for the Gourmet and Medicinal Mushroom forum.
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation (moved) [Re: Roadkill]
#8339801 - 04/28/08 09:21 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't know of any cordyceps growers that even attempt to grow the fruits, since the mycelium has the same medical benefits. I've grown the mycelium on grains and insect agar, but haven't ever had fruits.
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation [Re: leowch78]
#8345347 - 04/30/08 07:22 AM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Is it caused by the strain problem or others?
Try to grow with the same procedure from others strains and see what happens. if you'll rech the same results, isn't a problem of strain at the 70%.
I haven't experiences with them but i believe the only way to produce those mushrooms is to give as food the mycelium to the insects..but yes...it's really a cruel thing.
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation (moved) [Re: RogerRabbit]
#8346059 - 04/30/08 12:51 PM (4 years, 1 month ago) |
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Does Aloha med offer the cultures? I know you repped that comp a long time ago... But I was on the site the other day and only noticed a selection of oyster cultures on the list.
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation (moved) [Re: SheikCorp]
#8351738 - 05/01/08 09:14 PM (4 years, 30 days ago) |
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Well, thanks for your comment anyway. I've tried several ways to get the fruit. At the moment, i used rice and grain. Before, I tried insects and superworms, the mycelia grew with strength, but also hardly to get the fruit. My sample source is from a culture bank. It might be guess that the culture is isolated from the conidia as compared to ascospores.
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation (moved) [Re: leowch78]
#8352842 - 05/02/08 06:50 AM (4 years, 30 days ago) |
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Cordyceps has many anamorphs. In fact, DNA testing has shown that some strains of penicillium are anamorphs of cordyceps.
Alaho medicinals does not sell cordyceps cultures. Tablets from the mycelium are their bread and butter.
Here's a C militaris we found last fall in Washington State and cloned. Research is ongoing.
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation (moved) [Re: RogerRabbit]
#8352975 - 05/02/08 08:00 AM (4 years, 30 days ago) |
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wow Roger!
these pix are awesome!
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation (moved) [Re: RogerRabbit]
#8353855 - 05/02/08 12:30 PM (4 years, 30 days ago) |
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RR, could you detail the method of cloning and propagation in culture?
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation (moved) [Re: MycoAu]
#8355743 - 05/02/08 08:34 PM (4 years, 29 days ago) |
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation (moved) [Re: Juke Adro]
#8360530 - 05/04/08 05:48 AM (4 years, 28 days ago) |
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great link there juke, i'll have to read it fully when i'm more awake. i had no idea cordyceps had medicinal uses.
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation (moved) [Re: RogerRabbit]
#8360758 - 05/04/08 08:57 AM (4 years, 28 days ago) |
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I've grown the mycelium on grains and insect agar, but haven't ever had fruits.
RR
RR, how you make insect agar? sounds and amazing research topic
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation (moved) [Re: x7x_x7x]
#8362285 - 05/04/08 05:21 PM (4 years, 28 days ago) |
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I use anywhere from 18 to 30 live crickets per liter of agar mix. Any other insect could probably be used, but crickets are easy to get and work well. Just blend them up into the water and agar-agar before sterilization.
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation (moved) [Re: RogerRabbit]
#8362310 - 05/04/08 05:27 PM (4 years, 28 days ago) |
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation (moved) [Re: RogerRabbit]
#8362317 - 05/04/08 05:30 PM (4 years, 28 days ago) |
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OK I was looking this up before and found a paper on how to grow them but I cant find it any more.
It was pretty much where they would get bunch of larva and they would use a hair thin needle to poke them with a infected needle. They would cover them in a blanket and leave them in a basket. Every so often you take out the dead ones.
I really wish I could find the paper but I looked all over
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation (moved) [Re: MYSTIQUE]
#8408472 - 05/16/08 06:04 AM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation (moved) [Re: Anuta]
#8408521 - 05/16/08 06:55 AM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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There are more than 400 species in the genus Cordyceps, but Cordyceps militaris has the highest content of nutritional components and bioactive constituents.
The efficacy of the fruitbody is better than mycelium products on the market, also buying the whole fruitbody lets you know your getting the real deal.
Your carbon to nitrogen ratio should be between 5-25 to 1
http://www.svims.ca/council/Clubs.htm
http://biokenlab.com/cordyceps.html
http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1472-765X.2006.02098.x
http://www.pharmcast.com/Patents/Yr2003/May2003/050603/6558943_Fungi050603.htm
http://www.mushroompeople.com/product_info.php?products_id=242
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation (moved) [Re: HerbBaker]
#8408538 - 05/16/08 07:03 AM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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Wow, that's really nice!
That c/n ratio is really hot.
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation (moved) [Re: RogerRabbit]
#8408983 - 05/16/08 10:05 AM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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Quote:
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I use anywhere from 18 to 30 live crickets per liter of agar mix. Any other insect could probably be used, but crickets are easy to get and work well. Just blend them up into the water and agar-agar before sterilization.
RR
A lot of the professional agaricus cultivators use cricket agar for the producing of new enzymes with their strains.
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation (moved) [Re: Hotnuts]
#8409207 - 05/16/08 11:04 AM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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interesting, got any link?
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation (moved) [Re: x7x_x7x]
#8409212 - 05/16/08 11:05 AM (4 years, 16 days ago) |
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Nope.
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation (moved) [Re: wisp]
#8450200 - 05/27/08 10:03 AM (4 years, 5 days ago) |
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great link there juke, i'll have to read it fully when i'm more awake. i had no idea cordyceps had medicinal uses.
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation (moved) [Re: Juke Adro]
#8456050 - 05/28/08 03:53 PM (4 years, 4 days ago) |
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I always wanted to try to grow these. I was more interested in the headlike cordyceps....that grows on a supposed aphrodisiac.... Is the substrate ground insect or somesuch? Militaris is the one that infects insect larva isn't it?
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation (moved) [Re: oreandra]
#8456266 - 05/28/08 04:30 PM (4 years, 4 days ago) |
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amazing!
any detailed guideline about c. militaris growing?
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation (moved) [Re: x7x_x7x]
#8458404 - 05/29/08 01:12 AM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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nice pics there warriorsoul
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation (moved) [Re: oreandra]
#8464203 - 05/30/08 02:47 PM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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I always wanted to try to grow these. I was more interested in the headlike cordyceps....that grows on a supposed aphrodisiac.... Is the substrate ground insect or somesuch? Militaris is the one that infects insect larva isn't it?
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yes and here is one that i found recently ....
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation (moved) [Re: Juke Adro]
#8466065 - 05/30/08 10:57 PM (4 years, 1 day ago) |
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Please tell me you're actually going to use it to cultivate and not just store it/throw it away!
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation (moved) [Re: MycoAu]
#8467647 - 05/31/08 02:03 PM (4 years, 1 day ago) |
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Yeah I believe the person who now owns it is well in the cultivation of it
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation (moved) [Re: Juke Adro]
#8478468 - 06/03/08 04:41 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Cool... If that is the headlike coryceps, it is reputed to have been used as a "divination aid" to certain tribal peoples. I ate enough to get a bit of an odd feel....See if you can cultivate more. Might be hard since it has such an odd preferred medium (underground aphrodisiac fungus). I tried trading on back in the late 90s, but trying to keep it alive in the mail didn't turn out so well.
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation (moved) [Re: wisp]
#8537903 - 06/18/08 04:19 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I was reading the article Juke posted and saw this in the substrate section:
"With the addition of certain growth triggering compounds to this mixture, Cordyceps sinensis is easily induced to fruit in culture without any insect material being present."
What do you think, the growth triggering compounds are? Pretty complete article to leave that out, maybe its protected by patent or something.
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation (moved) [Re: Anuta]
#13083016 - 08/21/10 12:51 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Does anyone know where i can get cordyceps spawn?
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation (moved) [Re: theblueman]
#13083083 - 08/21/10 01:05 PM (1 year, 9 months ago) |
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Hi all,
I have no problems with fruiting Cordyceps see my pictures
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Re: Cordyceps cultivation (moved) [Re: Cordyceps]
#13139618 - 09/02/10 04:37 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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What substrate did you use?
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I use a very complicated substrate see my website for details
http://www.mycelium.eu/c-militaris.html
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