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Opium Plants Growing In Back Yard Of Elderly Couple [CA]
    #8250604 - 04/07/08 03:03 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

April 7, 2008 - NBC

NorCal Police Discover 3,600 Poppy Plants
Opium Plants Growing In Back Yard Of Elderly Couple

Modesto police officers discovered a large poppy cultivation on Sunday being grown in the back yard of a home where an elderly couple lives.

It happened on the 600 block of Paradise Avenue.

Poppy plants are the main plant that is used in the production of heroin.

Heroin is the main derivative obtained through the refinement of raw opium.

Modesto Police Sgt. Ray Coyle was looking for another address on Paradise Avenue when he stumbled into the address where he recognized the poppy plant was present and was able to determine a large grow of opium poppy’s was taking place, officers said.

The Modesto Narcotics Enforcement Team was contacted and they obtained a search warrant for the location, according to officers.

They seized a total of 3,670 opium plants in different stages of growth ranging from a few inches to more than six feet in length.

Investigators also seized approximately two quarts of liquid opium and a half-ounce of processed opium.

According to Sgt. Ray Coyle, the entire grow of plants and product could potentially yield a total of one pound of heroin. The value of that amount could be more than $10,000, depending on quality, said Sgt. Craig Gundlach.

After the seizure and investigation, investigators sent their reports to the district attorney to seek a complaint against the couple living at the home.

The husband is 84 years old. The wife is 58. They are being investigated as suspects in the case, according to Gundlach.

They were not arrested at the scene because of medical conditions and the fact that they were not a flight risk, according to a police statement.

Both the man and woman could face charges of manufacturing opium and possessing opium for sale, officers said.

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Re: Opium Plants Growing In Back Yard Of Elderly Couple [CA] [Re: veggie]
    #8250688 - 04/07/08 03:17 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

they can't be serious


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Re: Opium Plants Growing In Back Yard Of Elderly Couple [CA] [Re: dirtworshipper]
    #8250835 - 04/07/08 03:46 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

OH NO, I A PLANT! QUICK, GET IT BEFORE THEY GROW MORE!

Fucking retards.


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Re: Opium Plants Growing In Back Yard Of Elderly Couple [CA] [Re: Skeeblix]
    #8251044 - 04/07/08 04:46 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

Take that old man! No more pain relief for you!

Get behind these bars and be ashamed of your beliefs!


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    #8251063 - 04/07/08 04:50 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Opium Plants Growing In Back Yard Of Elderly Couple [CA] [Re: Chemy]
    #8251078 - 04/07/08 04:54 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

since when was growing poppies a crime... search warrant sounds like bullshit to me, they shouldn't have been able to get one.


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Re: Opium Plants Growing In Back Yard Of Elderly Couple [CA] [Re: usg543]
    #8251290 - 04/07/08 05:39 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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since when was growing poppies a crime... search warrant sounds like bullshit to me, they shouldn't have been able to get one.




it makes sense tho. a little garden with some poppies in it they probably cant do too much but knock on your door and you could be like "oh they have been growing there for years and i think they are pretty" but if you have a ton in your yard the cops would probably have a sneaking suspicion you may or may not be using them for more than poppy seeds. but i suppose if you put the opium in like some sort of huge baggy you could just say (if you ganna go for the play dumb move) something like it is hard to sift the seeds out of the gunk so you cut the pod first then harvest the seeds and you just keep the opium in a bag for convenience


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    #8251298 - 04/07/08 05:40 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Opium Plants Growing In Back Yard Of Elderly Couple [CA] [Re: Chemy]
    #8251309 - 04/07/08 05:42 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

that article makes me feel sick
it's like arresting Willy Nelson
they're old!! come on!

opium poppies really are a beautiful plant
i want to grow some
but i think now is the time to plant
and i have no seeds
booo


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Re: Opium Plants Growing In Back Yard Of Elderly Couple [CA] [Re: dirtworshipper]
    #8251368 - 04/07/08 05:54 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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opium poppies really are a beautiful plant
i want to grow some
but i think now is the time to plant
and i have no seeds
booo




Are you kidding? Five minutes online and in two days you can have 600 seeds of Gigantium, Hens & Chicks... whatever - for next to no money.

Here is a hypothetical order from online vendor One Stop Poppy Shoppe:
1 Danish Flag Danebrog Laced Poppy Seeds Poppies @ $3.99 = $3.99
1 Gigantium Poppy Seeds Poppies Papaver @ $2.99 = $2.99
1 Hens And Chicks Poppy Seeds Poppies Papaver @ $2.99 = $2.99
1 White Album Peshwar Poppy Seeds Poppies @ $2.99 = $2.99
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Re: Opium Plants Growing In Back Yard Of Elderly Couple [CA] [Re: Nature Boy]
    #8251443 - 04/07/08 06:09 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

:shrug:
i figured i'd wait until a shroomerite wanted to trade some

i don't have a credit card, thankfully
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Re: Opium Plants Growing In Back Yard Of Elderly Couple [CA] [Re: Chemy]
    #8251478 - 04/07/08 06:19 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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since when was growing poppies a crime... search warrant sounds like bullshit to me, they shouldn't have been able to get one.




it makes sense tho. a little garden with some poppies in it they probably cant do too much but knock on your door and you could be like "oh they have been growing there for years and i think they are pretty" but if you have a ton in your yard the cops would probably have a sneaking suspicion you may or may not be using them for more than poppy seeds. but i suppose if you put the opium in like some sort of huge baggy you could just say (if you ganna go for the play dumb move) something like it is hard to sift the seeds out of the gunk so you cut the pod first then harvest the seeds and you just keep the opium in a bag for convenience



Huh?




baisicly if there is just a few plants they will probably not say anything but if you have thousands of plants growing the may get suspicious


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Re: Opium Plants Growing In Back Yard Of Elderly Couple [CA] [Re: usg543]
    #8251932 - 04/07/08 08:24 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

The cultivation of poppies has been illegal in the US for quite some time now.

And dirtworshipper, the poppy seeds they sell in grocery stores are papaver somniferum seeds. Go buy a bottle and have at it.


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    #8252077 - 04/07/08 08:55 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Opium Plants Growing In Back Yard Of Elderly Couple [CA] [Re: Chemy]
    #8252314 - 04/07/08 09:36 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

yeah i am prety sure you can grow poppies in the US you just cant harvest the opium only the seeds. honestly tho i would just act dumb because if you say you harvest the poppies you have to drain the opium first and then you could be charged with possession for a few seconds....erowid.com is all


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Re: Opium Plants Growing In Back Yard Of Elderly Couple [CA] [Re: Chemy]
    #8252316 - 04/07/08 09:36 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe some kinds are, but I've grown from grocery store brands several times.

Edit- cultivation of papaver somniferum IS illegal in the US. Cultivation of other species is legal.
From Erowid-
"Opium poppies are specifically scheduled under U.S. Law. The Controlled Substances Act, Schedule II, lists "Opium poppy and poppy straw" as well as "Concentrate of poppy straw (the crude extract of poppy straw in either liquid, solid or powder form which contains the phenanthrene alkaloids of the opium poppy)". Opium and its constituent chemicals are listed in Schedule II and some derivatives (such as Heroin) are listed in Schedule I."
http://www.erowid.org/plants/poppy/poppy_law.shtml

1942, the Opium Poppy Control Act. Outlaws growing opium poppies without a license.
Come on, if growing poppies were legal, it would be like saying its ok to grow pot, just don't make hash from it.


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    #8252354 - 04/07/08 09:42 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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Maybe some kinds are, but I've grown from grocery store brands several times.




rely did they yield opium? because i have herd that they do some shit where there is no actual opium in the sap


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    #8252377 - 04/07/08 09:46 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

Therein lies the problem with some store brands.
Some poppies grown in Tasmania have been bred to be low in morphine, high in thebaine for the production of oxycodone. Thebaine doesn't get you as twisted as morphine or codeine, I think actually it makes you nauseous or gives a headache more than anything.
The company which grows this type of poppy sells the seed to some seed companies if I remember correctly.
I used to be an active member on www.poppies.org check that out if you're interested in growing. They have all the info one could need.

Edit- I forgot I never addressed the first question. I never harvested it, I went for drying and then the tea route instead.


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    #8252421 - 04/07/08 09:52 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Opium Plants Growing In Back Yard Of Elderly Couple [CA] [Re: DragonChaser]
    #8252440 - 04/07/08 09:54 PM (6 years, 5 months ago)

HOW THE FUCK COULD YOU THROW AN 84 YEAR OLD MAN IN JAIL HE CANT EVEN LEAVE HIS HOUSE LET ALONE BE AROUND CONVICTED FELONS:angrydog:


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