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Re: The final key : Making hydrazine the easy way [Re: WhereDoUwant2go]
    #8120461 - 03/08/08 04:46 PM (16 years, 24 days ago)

Woa, turn down the aggression.

John just said to ask questions and they'll answer.

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Re: The final key : Making hydrazine the easy way [Re: WhereDoUwant2go]
    #8122473 - 03/09/08 05:52 AM (16 years, 23 days ago)

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WhereDoUwant2go said:
I just thought about it --- how ironic is it that chemists here are so stuck on an ego trip and think they are the stars of the show and we all gravel at their feet, just because they took some chemistry class. They keeping telling us to be like them and take chemistry classes, and they get off on feeling like they are better and smarter than use, neither of which is the case...lol

I thought LSD taught people to take away the ego? Yet these chemists are stuck on a permenant ego trip. Why are they here if they have no intention of helping anyone? Just to feel special, that's why...lol...I think they need to go get some acid and loose there self centered personalities again




what are you refering to?

Who's telling you to take chem classes?

I agree w/ the previous guy who said there's no need. It's followin instructions. Once you understand the vocabulary and the technique, you can do it. You don't need to know chemistry at all, though it helps to understand what you can shortcut with, what's truely important, et cet.


I don't know where this is coming from. In the chem forum people ask basic shit all the time, and people answer all the time. I don't see this ego trip crap you're talking about.

Anyone honest would tell you you don't need to know any theory to do a synthesis.

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Re: The final key : Making hydrazine the easy way [Re: johnm214]
    #8123273 - 03/09/08 12:56 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

You don't see this 'ego crap' I'm talking about? No surprise there...

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Re: The final key : Making hydrazine the easy way [Re: WhereDoUwant2go]
    #8123276 - 03/09/08 01:00 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

Honestly, I don't see it either.  Almost everyone on these boards with the skills and knowledge to help people out is ready and willing to.  This stuff looks interesting, and I've got it bookmarked so I can give it a more thorough look-through after I'm done with finals.

I didn't see any specific questions though, just ranting about people being unwilling to answer them. :confused:

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Re: The final key : Making hydrazine the easy way [Re: Entropymancer]
    #8123601 - 03/09/08 03:00 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

We need the set of instructional videos, "How To Make LSD And Its Precursors."

Someone should be able to make a fortune simply selling information.

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Re: The final key : Making hydrazine the easy way [Re: 04281969]
    #8123637 - 03/09/08 03:14 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

somebody should make a LIhKaL out of this shit (lisergamides)


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Re: The final key : Making hydrazine the easy way [Re: WhereDoUwant2go]
    #8124124 - 03/09/08 05:29 PM (16 years, 23 days ago)

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WhereDoUwant2go said:
You don't see this 'ego crap' I'm talking about? No surprise there...




Stop being an ass

I fyou were concerned about this arrogance I don't understand why you wouldn't point it out to interested parties.


Frustrating to have someone refer to a phenomena and express concern regarding it, someone else ask about it, and then the first person decline to talk about what they claim to be concerned about.

WTF?

If you don't want to discuss it, don't bring it up.

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Re: The final key : Making hydrazine the easy way [Re: WhereDoUwant2go]
    #8125395 - 03/09/08 09:45 PM (16 years, 22 days ago)

Hydrazine doesn't seem like a difficult chemical to make really. I've only looked into the sulfate, though.

Also, you said it needs to be boiled? I was under the impression hydrazine will ignite at much lower than 115C.

Inert atmosphere or what?

Also, I'm pretty sure urea nitrate is used for fertilizer. I could be wrong, but if I'm not, then your equation needs revision.

Also, WhereDoYou's comments are confusing the hell out of me. He refers to those with chemistry knowledge as some sort of elite sect that he hates, but doesn't he have this knowledge for him to be posting this stuff? Unless he's just copying shit from wiki and various "crapbooks", as we call them.

People with chemistry knowledge on the shroomery do the complete opposite of hoard it. They bend over backwards to explain simple concepts to newbies that have been asked over and over again, or are obvious to all but those who didn't take a single chemistry (or even general science) class.

Apologies for the rant.

Edited by Orbital_Saucer (03/09/08 10:03 PM)

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Re: The final key : Making hydrazine the easy way [Re: Orbital_Saucer]
    #8201635 - 03/27/08 01:51 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

Obviously I wasn't reffering to *every* chemist here, but I happen to know for a fact there are many members of this board who not only know how to correctly produce LSD, they make and sell it in large quantities.

And they refuse to help out anyone asking questions. They always say things like "you need to take advanced chemistry classes first". Perhaps they only wish to share their knowledge with the people who have taken chemistry classes and don't want anything to do with the rest of us, who are but mere idiots in their eyes.

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Re: The final key : Making hydrazine the easy way [Re: Orbital_Saucer]
    #8201643 - 03/27/08 01:55 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

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Orbital_Saucer said:
Also, you said it needs to be boiled? I was under the impression hydrazine will ignite at much lower than 115C.






The below sentence is copied and pasted from my first post in this thread:

"But then it needs to be heated to just below its boiling point 112C (bp: 115C) which is very dangerous."

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Re: The final key : Making hydrazine the easy way [Re: johnm214]
    #8201693 - 03/27/08 02:14 PM (16 years, 5 days ago)

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1 N sodium nitrate should be one molar, not .5, to my reckonnig. Remember, its a zwiterion w/ a positive N.





Yes, but it said .1N not 1N
So that would mean .1 mole of NaNO3 to 1 liter of water, just like Topcorn said right?
My molar calculator says 1 mole of sodium nitrate = 84.995

So how do we calculate how much sodium nitrate to add to 1 liter of water?

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Re: The final key : Making hydrazine the easy way [Re: WhereDoUwant2go]
    #8203836 - 03/27/08 09:59 PM (16 years, 4 days ago)

Bookmarked, I may be able to possibly help later on, I have taken college chem courses.

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