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Re: Crystals and inner power. ::UPDATE:: [Re: Oracle Of Delphi]
    #7849926 - 01/08/08 07:39 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Hey good to see others are realizing the power of crystals.

Here's an experiment I've tried that has actually worked:

Take a double terminated quartz point and put it in a glass of salt water and set it in the sun for 3 days to format it.

Then hold the crystal in your right hand and strongly visualize a simple symbol like the number 5, or a circle, triangle or square.

Visualize the symbol moving from your third eye down your arm and into the crystal.

Do this three times or more and then hand it to a psychic or someone tripping pretty hard.

Tell them to hold it in their left hand and ask them what they see... I swear, it seriously works... sometimes.

In the episode of Thinking Allowed titled "Shamanic Physics" Fred Alan Wolf says he was told by a shaman that it is bad for the Earth's energy grid to have crystals dug up in one part of the Earth and then buried in a different far-away place... just fyi.

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Re: Crystals and inner power. ::UPDATE:: [Re: CosmicFool]
    #7852633 - 01/09/08 08:13 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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CosmicFool said:
I thought of that. And as a matter of fact I'm pretty sure I was home for most of the day so I might just find it again when I really need it.




I have certain books that do that to me. I will be reading one then all of a sudden I can't find it. My house isn't that messy.


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Re: Crystals and inner power. ::UPDATE:: [Re: Middleman]
    #7854388 - 01/09/08 03:44 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

How do you know who is psychic to hand it to when no one can pass a preliminary test of said abilities?


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Re: Crystals and inner power. ::UPDATE:: [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7854549 - 01/09/08 04:06 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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How do you know who is psychic to hand it to when no one can pass a prelimiary test of said abilities?




all you need is love...la la la


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Re: Crystals and inner power. ::UPDATE:: [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7855042 - 01/09/08 05:49 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Well the experiment I proposed would be a test.

In The Cosmic Trigger III: My Life After Death, R.A.W. makes a very convincing argument that PSYCOP is more fraudulent than those it investigates and Randi's judges are biased beyond belief...

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Re: Crystals and inner power. ::UPDATE:: [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7855409 - 01/09/08 07:01 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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How do you know who is psychic to hand it to when no one can pass a prelimiary test of said abilities?




Well, if you did hand it to someone who just felt like the right person and they said "I see a 5" wouldn't that be a preliminary test?

Of both people actually.


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Re: Crystals and inner power. ::UPDATE:: [Re: Middleman]
    #7855847 - 01/09/08 08:09 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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and Randi's judges are biased beyond belief...




*sigh* This false issue has only been covered hundreds of times here.

The claimant codesigns the test and they either pass or fail according to their own criterion. Judgment is not involved.

MM says to JREF I can transfer numbers through crystals. The first number is a 5.

Recipient says "5". This is a pass.
Redipient says "6". This is a fail.

There is no subjective judgement involved.


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Re: Crystals and inner power. ::UPDATE:: [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7856252 - 01/09/08 09:33 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

That's not how most of their tests have worked.

JREF set their own criteria for the homeopathy test for example...

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Re: Crystals and inner power. ::UPDATE:: [Re: Middleman]
    #7856707 - 01/09/08 10:47 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Controls are much different than stating expected results which the homeopaths (as with everyone else) have done.


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Re: Crystals and inner power. ::UPDATE:: [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7857255 - 01/10/08 12:10 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

There was once a small boy who dreamed of magic. His best friend also believed as he did. Together they both lived in a magical world, somehow more pure and blissful than a world dominated by logic and cause and effect. Then, one day, the boy's friend decided to spread wings of pure energy and fly off of a very high mountain. Sadly, being a boy who had lived by his dreams, he fell to his death and died by them. His friend's death so hurt the boy, all the magic vanished from his world. It would remain this way, and the boy could only communicate in terms of sharing his grief, that is, working tirelessly to show everyone that the magic was only a delusion which to the boy only lead to suffering... Understand the boy, and the meaningless nature of trying to change his heart becomes clear, like muddy water left to settle on its own. Compassion first, ideology second.


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Re: Crystals and inner power. ::UPDATE:: [Re: WordlessNature]
    #7859457 - 01/10/08 01:19 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Now communicate this heart-warming story without using a logic-based device.


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Re: Crystals and inner power. ::UPDATE:: [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #7860826 - 01/10/08 06:05 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

Each comment tells more about the writer than the subject matter. As for not using a logical system, I think you'll find that quite impossible in this context. Think of the root of the word 'logic' and I'm sure you'll see what I mean.


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Re: Crystals and inner power. ::UPDATE:: [Re: WordlessNature]
    #7866849 - 01/11/08 09:17 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

so what is the deal w/ these crystals, is it only minerals that can be powerful or do things like, say, ice work for energy or whatnot? And if only minerals, how do you decide which one? Like why can't you just use salt or whatever is cheap?

and why do people always seem to have large crystals? do you need a certain size, or can a bunch of smaller crystals work too?

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Re: Crystals and inner power. ::UPDATE:: [Re: johnm214]
    #7867134 - 01/11/08 10:23 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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so what is the deal w/ these crystals, is it only minerals that can be powerful or do things like, say, ice work for energy or whatnot? And if only minerals, how do you decide which one? Like why can't you just use salt or whatever is cheap?

and why do people always seem to have large crystals? do you need a certain size, or can a bunch of smaller crystals work too?



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I feel that there is a strong correlation between the metaphysical "power" of quartz(and certain others) crystals and their inherent piezoelectric properties.
One decides which mineral to use based upon it's traditional correspondences and attributes. The salt you mention actually has very deep alchemical significance, being the third element of the trinity of the Great Work(although I must note that this is in reference to salt as a form instead of just limited only to NaCl). One can really work with just about any type of stone as long as it's significance is proper to the intended work. From a qabalistic standpoint, one would'nt use a ruby(Geburah, 5, fire, power) for a strictly Jupiterian operation for instance. Conversely, red does have associations with love(a Jupiterian aspect), so one's learnings can justify it's usage when there is no apparent conflict within the operation itself.
I utilize simple river stones for I-Ching divination(traditionally coins or sticks are used) as I feel they have a very deep connection with the structure of the system. They are not pretty, people walk and spit and pee upon these type of stones all the time, but it's the application that matters.
Oh yeah, about the size, I'm quite sure it's mostly for convenience.
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Re: Crystals and inner power. ::UPDATE:: [Re: lavod]
    #7868137 - 01/12/08 05:06 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

thanks for the answer... couldn't really find much online except a bunch of huksters trying to sell some rocks, who all said something different about what is for what and what is used for what.

always kinda wondered about people using crystals, but seems to be either not much of a consensus on this or just alot of spam online from people who say anything to make a buck, and really aren't knowledgable w/ traditional uses

thanks

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Re: Crystals and inner power. ::UPDATE:: [Re: johnm214]
    #7868818 - 01/12/08 11:57 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

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johnm214 said:


always kinda wondered about people using crystals, but seems to be either not much of a consensus on this or just alot of spam online from people who say anything to make a buck, and really aren't knowledgable w/ traditional uses

thanks




Its that way with any 'spiritual/religious' teaching - Its hard to find people who are sincere. I know they are out there - Ive talked to some of them on this board -but the overwhelming numbers of shylocks and tricksters is to much for me.
I think it is easy enough to know crystals (or anything for that matter) is right for you.
it will manifest itself in your life somehow. Either you will be curious and purchase/borrow/find the crystals(or the items in question). Other information will become available, and you will start your own journey with them/it.
Or not.

-kind of how it works for me.

UPDATE::
the smallest of the 3 crystals I just purchased just opened a little to me. I found a weird divit in its side, and if i place my hand on it just so - it fits in my hand like it was carved to the dimensions of my palm. It is an odd feeling.

so far thats all Ive got - Im going to clean with sea salt this evening - maybe some pictures will come of it.
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Re: Crystals and inner power. ::UPDATE:: [Re: Oracle Of Delphi]
    #7870544 - 01/12/08 07:38 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

:boxerface:

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Re: Crystals and inner power. ::UPDATE:: [Re: johnm214]
    #7872663 - 01/13/08 09:03 AM (16 years, 2 months ago)

why the dog face?


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Re: Crystals and inner power. ::UPDATE:: [Re: Oracle Of Delphi]
    #7874344 - 01/13/08 05:02 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

cuz every post I've seen you make has the boxer in it

I felt like your post was missing something

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Re: Crystals and inner power. ::UPDATE:: [Re: Oracle Of Delphi]
    #7874380 - 01/13/08 05:09 PM (16 years, 2 months ago)

oh :boxerface:

OoD


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