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 Re: Poppies - from Poppyseed to Opium [Re: joker_66599]
#7409295 - 09/14/07 12:52 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm planting in a week in N. Cali. It might be a smiz too soon but I think the devastating summer heat has passed.
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Re: Poppies - from Poppyseed to Opium [Re: TODAY]
#7421020 - 09/17/07 06:16 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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I will be in so-cal
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Re: Poppies - from Poppyseed to Opium [Re: joker_66599]
#7428729 - 09/19/07 02:33 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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WTF? you can grow in N cal right now?
I dunharvested everything like 3 months ago..
I was considering an experimental crop right about now, but figured itd go to rot..
Ill try it out now anyways..
Hell itll only set me back $5
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Re: Poppies - from Poppyseed to Opium [Re: learysprotoge]
#7434542 - 09/20/07 09:14 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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http://www.scienceimage.csiro.au/sio2004/index.cfm?event=site.image.detail&id=2514
CSIRO Plant Industries, in collaboration with Tasmanian Alkaloids, have isolated a small set of genes in morphine-free poppies which behave differently to those in standard morphine-producing poppies.
Norman, the morphine-free poppy produces large amounts of thebaine and oripavine, compounds preferred by the pharmaceutical industry in the production high-value pain-killers. The isolated genes are associated with blocking the production of morphine whilst enhancing the plant's ability to produce these compounds. This understanding will help in the development of poppies capable of producing larger yields of these valuable compounds.
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here are a few random things i thought you guys would find interesting.
http://www.spiceadvice.com/brands/spice_islands/our_spices/our_spices.html
click on lemon peels to poppy seeds
then scroll to poppy seeds and on that page it says
Poppy Seeds are tiny nutty-tasting, blue-gray seeds inside capsules on Papaver somniferum, a yellowish-brown opium plant indigenous to the Mediterranean.
Geographical
Sources Poppies are native to Mediterranean regions, India, China, Turkey, and Iran. Today, Holland and Canada are the main producers of poppy seeds.
Traditional
Ethnic
Uses Poppy Seeds are used to flavor breads, cakes, rolls, and cookies in European and Middle Eastern cooking. In Turkey, they are often ground and used in desserts. In India, the seeds are ground and used to thicken sauces. The seeds are also used in noodle, fish, and vegetable dishes in Jewish, German, and Slavic cooking.
Taste and Aroma
Description Poppy Seeds have a slightly nutty aroma and taste.
History/Region of Origin Since antiquity, poppies have symbolized honor. Women in second century Crete cultivated poppy plants for opium and Hippocrates suggested opium in medicine. Islamic and Arabian countries used opium as a medicine and narcotic in the sixth century. By the 17th century, Asians used the poppy plant as an opiate. Europeans began trafficking the drug in the 19th century, culminating in the Opium Wars, in which China lost control of the industry. The Greeks used the seeds as flavoring for breads in the second century, and medieval Europeans used them as a condiment with breads.
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So the spice island brand poppy seeds in the spice isle actually are opium poppy seeds if anyone has a doubt in their mind. Its also greatly rumored that they are tasmanian strain.
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Re: Poppies - from Poppyseed to Opium [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#7575825 - 10/30/07 08:32 AM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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Alot of good informations. awesome . thank yous
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Re: Poppies - from Poppyseed to Opium [Re: Lawrence]
#7636488 - 11/14/07 04:53 PM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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Question about WITHDRAWAL. I'm on the habit of making lemon laud each weekend, but around about thursday I feel my skin crawling and sweaty, as well as stomach pains and everything that follows, which I know is withdrawal. ANother thing that I've noticed is at night I wake up and have to use the toilet. When I am back in bed I can't get comfortable--I roll around slapping my arms against the bed like a rag-doll. Anyone ever have this experience?
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Re: Poppies - from Poppyseed to Opium [Re: logancircle]
#7665533 - 11/22/07 01:01 AM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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logancircle said:
Question about WITHDRAWAL. I'm on the habit of making lemon laud each weekend, but around about thursday I feel my skin crawling and sweaty, as well as stomach pains and everything that follows, which I know is withdrawal. ANother thing that I've noticed is at night I wake up and have to use the toilet. When I am back in bed I can't get comfortable--I roll around slapping my arms against the bed like a rag-doll. Anyone ever have this experience?
I think I can help you out here. First and foremost I know personally how annoying not begin able get comfortable can be. Whatever you do, AVOID all antihistamines during withdrawal. They seem to agitate your muscles and nervous system more. Working out a little 1-2 hour before bed can help some. I also found eating foods high in carbs bfre bed ( I know that not a good idea generally ) also helps some. Tylenol for pain and aches seems to help some. Pus make sure you are well hydrated, its ok if you get up to pee at night.
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Re: Poppies - from Poppyseed to Opium [Re: raffytaffy]
#7676385 - 11/24/07 10:04 PM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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Not sure if this topic was Grand-fathered in, so please direct WD questions to Other Drugs Discussion or Off-Topic Discussion.
Now, back to growing. Anyone in the Midwest or Zone 5, I'll be happy to answer any questions.
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Re: Poppies - from Poppyseed to Opium [Re: namaste]
#7818307 - 12/31/07 07:13 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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I spy two yellow morels in with those pods. lol
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Re: Poppies - from Poppyseed to Opium [Re: BoulderBoomer]
#7819141 - 01/01/08 06:08 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yep, and an ear of Blue Corn. Only two and half moons til planting season. 
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Re: Poppies - from Poppyseed to Opium [Re: namaste]
#7918254 - 01/22/08 11:27 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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haha moons!
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#7976621 - 02/04/08 05:13 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Poppies - from Poppyseed to Opium [Re: Gr33nday43]
#8095622 - 03/02/08 09:59 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Anybody have any garden pics to share? A friend and I have a little planter box at his house with some lettuce in it that has really been responding to the recent sunshine. No pics though 
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Re: Poppies - from Poppyseed to Opium [Re: TODAY]
#8154567 - 03/16/08 05:54 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Can anyone help me please.
I know that the poppies are called:
Papaver somniferum
But I really would like to know the particualr Kinds to look out for as I wish to grow these
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Re: Poppies - from Poppyseed to Opium [Re: can_aroma]
#8160662 - 03/18/08 02:30 AM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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weren't you the guy that asked this somewhere else too?
read
don't worry about types if you don't want to put the legwork into it
Just buy a bunch and grow em out. The standard culinary seeds are reputed to be fine, and are much cheaper than buying special strains. If you aren't planting too much though, check out he shroomery sponsers, it shouldn't set you back too much.
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Re: Poppies - from Poppyseed to Opium [Re: johnm214]
#8164797 - 03/18/08 10:17 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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From my experience though, germination rates can be nearly nil on the seeds you'd buy to use as seasoning, if not completely inviable.
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Re: Poppies - from Poppyseed to Opium [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#8411733 - 05/17/08 12:57 AM (4 years, 15 days ago) |
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I love my beautiful poppies. Thanks for the info.
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Re: Poppies - from Poppyseed to Opium [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#8411739 - 05/17/08 01:00 AM (4 years, 15 days ago) |
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I have some Persian White poppies. I don't know if that's just a confusion though.
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Re: Poppies - from Poppyseed to Opium [Re: liveby]
#8411923 - 05/17/08 02:30 AM (4 years, 15 days ago) |
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Saw it before, here! but now want to take another look and the photoes does not work! like not exist, shows icon with X inside!
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Re: Poppies - from Poppyseed to Opium [Re: dstark]
#8423136 - 05/20/08 02:26 AM (4 years, 12 days ago) |
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Nice to see this thread is still going, It was defiantly the most important source of info for me when I was getting started a couple of years ago having found a remote area covered in flowers. We usually get flowers here from about June 16th, but it looks like it may be a week or so later this year, can't wait...
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