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    #7539286 - 10/20/07 01:20 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #7539360 - 10/20/07 01:41 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Damnit jeetered, whats with all these kick-ass teks!

:lol:Very nice tek/write-up. Good pics, well-explained, and nicely put together.

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #7539361 - 10/20/07 01:42 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

is that "true " blue meanies or just the cube named blue meanies?

that is a great write up wish you luck ...


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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: orchidfanatic]
    #7539488 - 10/20/07 02:25 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

thanks you two,

im pretty sure it's the ps.cubensis blue meanie.
it's not the pans.

I'm just getting a grow of them in to get prints.

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: ThePyschonaut52]
    #7539493 - 10/20/07 02:26 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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Damnit jeetered, whats with all these kick-ass teks!

:lol:Very nice tek/write-up. Good pics, well-explained, and nicely put together.

:mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2:

Bookmarked!




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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #7540135 - 10/20/07 05:28 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Hopefully it will work cause Ive got everything I need to follow this tek..and invitro bags are way easy

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: Vegan]
    #7540194 - 10/20/07 05:44 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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Hopefully it will work cause Ive got everything I need to follow this tek..and invitro bags are way easy

good luck




thanks vegan!!

i've had way good success with Coir Monotubs, just trying out the invitro bags,

oak ridge is a good all around strain that preforms well both invitro and well, normally.

I'm excited as even just a few hours after posting this, i see some recovery growth already, not going to take pics just yet, but soon probably.

take care and keep watching!

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #7540221 - 10/20/07 05:52 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

thanks for the tek jeetered.:rockon:


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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #7540231 - 10/20/07 05:56 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

was your spawn just pf cakes? maybe i missed it.

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: nw_shroomy]
    #7540235 - 10/20/07 05:57 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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thanks for the tek jeetered.:rockon:




no problem man!!!

I will be posting a "Working with agar and petri for nOObs like me" tek soon.

working with a Penis Envy clone.

I have some, but very limited knowledge of working with agar.

IN FACT, again, I order my agar from www.mycopath.com

(i do not work for mycopath, i am not a salesmen, I just know a good product when i use one.)

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #7540819 - 10/20/07 09:07 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Oh man, the look of those coir bags and monotub is righteous...seriously good stuff. I think my next grow may be restricted to gallon plastic bottles or el-cheapo tupperware-style containers. Either way, good work and happy fruiting!


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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #7540830 - 10/20/07 09:12 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Awesome looking set-up. I am definitely learning something! I might try invitro bags next time.

Like your style a lot. Also, thanks again for the oak ridge print! You da man! :smile:


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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: btb103]
    #7541017 - 10/20/07 10:45 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Damn man, with all your work you could solve world hunger haha, your the man Jeet.


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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: Pr0_X]
    #7541116 - 10/20/07 11:28 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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Damn man, with all your work you could solve world hunger haha, your the man Jeet.




I think your on to something! Hmmmm. World hunger,.. Edible shrooms... I like it!


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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: Vegan]
    #7541295 - 10/21/07 12:35 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

In vitro bags are way easy. easy to make, easy to clean up...

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: Cryogenicz]
    #7541815 - 10/21/07 08:10 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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In vitro bags are way easy. easy to make, easy to clean up...

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yep and way easy to just sit back and do nothing and watch it work.

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #7542416 - 10/21/07 11:46 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

like what i see...

please post your results


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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: Oatman2000]
    #7549064 - 10/22/07 09:11 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I haven't forgot about this and will post results tomorrow.
So far everything good, no contam as of yet.

I have been REALLLY sick... and haven't been doing much in the way of cultivation since I posted this last.

I am also thinking, that after this ends, i'll be hanging my bluethumb up on the "past things done" shelf.

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #7549097 - 10/22/07 09:16 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Wow, you, giving it up? Never thought I'd see the day. I'm sure you'll be back to it eventually. Almost everyone else I've ever seen posting about giving up the grow has been back.

Hope you feel better, man.


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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub *DELETED* [Re: Skeeblix]
    #7549224 - 10/22/07 09:41 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: acommunistspy]
    #7550126 - 10/23/07 07:42 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #7569165 - 10/28/07 08:56 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

First, I apologize for a delay in any updates, you guys/gals should know by now it requires something pretty serious for me not to be around daily, and update on time.

I am almost done fighting what the doctors call "walking" pneumonia.
It seems every time I go outside, I get worse, Soo.. i've been staying warm and indoors and asleep for days upon days, I think im on the beginning of week four, of being sick.

anyhow...

as far as the grow goes SUCCESS!!!!

the invitro coir bags, are done colonizing, they are a little different then I am used to, manure makes a good super white myc, the coir, is a little more thin, and less prominent, I did break one bag up some to be sure it's fully colonized, and yes, it was.

the monotub, of coir, is also doing very well..

how bout some pics???

Oh, and what do you guys think, should i put a casing layer on the monotub? I have considered just fruiting it as is.

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So, in short, I'll be updating again soon, as i've set everything out to start pinning.

I am going to be taking prints off of all the poobags as they are Oak Ridge strain. I am hoping that it's genetics for good invitro growing remain, and hopefully, using a different substrate wont mishmash it even further (this myc is from another isolate)

I still haven't made use of my petri and agar. I have been using ghetto agar dishes (half pints with very little brf).

I think that anyone not wanting to hunt their own manure and pasteurize, nor anyone that wants to spend the money on ordering product, really need to consider giving coir a try.

In the past, I grew F+ on coir, and it did magnificently. I could only tell a SLIGHT difference with a bioassay. The fruits weren't AS large, but were healthy enough that I was super impressed. I always use a very deep substrate, which almost always ensures I get some pretty decently large fruits.

leave some comments, and since hyphal knotting isn't present on the tub, I have about 24 hours to case it. I really don't want to, but, if you guys think it's best, I will. If i do, it will only be a straight vermiculite casing layer as usual.

OH, and the tub, is "Ps. Cubensis" blue meanie. I hear good and bad about it. I have eaten them, they seem to be a little more potent then most cubensis, but it's basically still a simple cube. I am unsure of why they even call it blue meanie. I see no evidence of it being anything different. No diff species or strain. It's defintely not a pan, from aussie.

Missed you guys, and again, I apologize for the long wait.
I am getting healthier, so those of you used to seeing me on IRC, again, I haven't been there either. Today I feel good, so i did this.

PEACE>

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #7569168 - 10/28/07 08:58 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

case i say.


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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: ohmatic]
    #7569177 - 10/28/07 09:05 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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case i say.




yeah? i kind of agree.
I had a failed mexicube monotub, and i didn't case it.

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: blood4blood]
    #7569188 - 10/28/07 09:14 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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was your spawn just pf cakes? maybe i missed it.




pftek cakes will work, but I used colonized rye grains as usual

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #7569206 - 10/28/07 09:20 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

WELCOME BACK JEET! I was wandering were you went. everything is looking good to me man. I agree with Ohmatic and think you should case the mono IMO.


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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: Funkatron9000]
    #7569474 - 10/28/07 11:27 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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WELCOME BACK JEET! I was wandering were you went. everything is looking good to me man. I agree with Ohmatic and think you should case the mono IMO.





thanks man!

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: acommunistspy]
    #7569866 - 10/28/07 02:44 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Great tek, and good looking chronic. xD


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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: tequilaWorm]
    #7570345 - 10/28/07 05:08 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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Great tek, and good looking chronic. xD




thanks!

the chronic was a plant that went hermie, but it still crystal'd up real nice tasted good and smoked great.

Sad, was going to be a clone plant, no idea why it hermied damn near the end of flowering.

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #7573760 - 10/29/07 05:30 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

coir bags have hyphal knots, no way to get a good pic with my shitty camera. The coir bags are Oak Ridge strain. The blue meanie monotub is also showing signs of hyphal knotting, but i got lazy and never cased it, so it's going to have to run w/o a layer now.

I'm guessing by this next weekend I can show pics of fruits.

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #7574999 - 10/29/07 11:36 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Im not sure of your teks but I was wondering ,
can you sterilize the grain in the bags , then inoculate em, wait for them to colonize, then cut the top seal off and mix up the substrate and grain , pour it right back in the same bag and seal it up?

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: Vegan]
    #7575021 - 10/29/07 11:44 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Im not sure of your teks but I was wondering ,
can you sterilize the grain in the bags , then inoculate em, wait for them to colonize, then cut the top seal off and mix up the substrate and grain , pour it right back in the same bag and seal it up?





sure can, pretty efficiently i might add.

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #7575063 - 10/30/07 12:08 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Looking good! Can't wait til I get my game on, have almost everything bar canning jars [can't find them here...probably end up using glasses with foil].

But yeah I know you can get Blue Meanies wild here in Australia, they grow around here a bit. Heard of something whacked out last year though, some guys drove a decent way out to a field to go look for some, and they found them. Stupid thing was they ate them BEFORE they drove back...and needless to say they didn't arrive happily, GRTS :C Yet more ammunition for the anti-drug protesters leading up to the election...bah!

Anyway back on topic, have you found much of a difference using a casing in terms of fruit size? All I have heard is that it makes the fruits more stable and less prone to contams if your cleanliness isn't top-notch a-grade whizz-bang 100% [virtually impossible if growing somewhere you also inhabit!].

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: boingkster]
    #7575846 - 10/30/07 09:38 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Looking good! Can't wait til I get my game on, have almost everything bar canning jars [can't find them here...probably end up using glasses with foil].

But yeah I know you can get Blue Meanies wild here in Australia, they grow around here a bit. Heard of something whacked out last year though, some guys drove a decent way out to a field to go look for some, and they found them. Stupid thing was they ate them BEFORE they drove back...and needless to say they didn't arrive happily, GRTS :C Yet more ammunition for the anti-drug protesters leading up to the election...bah!

Anyway back on topic, have you found much of a difference using a casing in terms of fruit size? All I have heard is that it makes the fruits more stable and less prone to contams if your cleanliness isn't top-notch a-grade whizz-bang 100% [virtually impossible if growing somewhere you also inhabit!].

Cheers - boingkster

PS: Hope you get well soon! Can't stand being sick...





the invitro bags are never cased, and they yield huge fruits.
This will be my first monotub w/o a casing layer that's been successful, so we'll see...

to be honest, i really have no answer for this question as I have no experiences to base it on...

after this I will,

and you'll SEE the results!

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #7576096 - 10/30/07 10:54 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Looks nice keep em going jetered.


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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #7583787 - 11/01/07 11:58 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Quote:

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Great tek, and good looking chronic. xD




thanks!

the chronic was a plant that went hermie, but it still crystal'd up real nice tasted good and smoked great.

Sad, was going to be a clone plant, no idea why it hermied damn near the end of flowering.




Damn, that's a shame. ):


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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: tequilaWorm]
    #7585107 - 11/01/07 06:28 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Ok, did some more stuff.

Here is the coir bags:









they literally have hundreds of pins starting from loads and loads of primordia.

Here are the tubs:








loads and loads of hyphal knots on the coir blue meanie tub. This has no casing layer.

I don't expect mature fruits this week, maybe first of next week.
I am anxious to see what happens, as in size, and potency.

The blue meanies are a tough bunch, I am having to fan them about 10 times a day.
The no casing layer deal, seems to be working out, as that is one immense set of primordia, i hope it all becomes pins, and then mature fruit bodies.

take care.

ps, i normally like to post this all at once, after everything is done, but as i said, this one is in real time, and i take pics and what not as i have time.

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #7585211 - 11/01/07 07:01 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i think you are underestimating the time it takes for a pin to mature. IMO it's like 3-4 days.

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    #7585225 - 11/01/07 07:06 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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i think you are underestimating the time it takes for a pin to mature. IMO it's like 3-4 days.

great job, i enjoy seeing more coir experiments.




My experience with the oak ridge strain doing it invitro, is that it takes a week to finish setting this primordia you see, then in up to 5 or 6 days it matures.

I could be totally wrong, and wake up tomorrow to 3 inch fruitbodies, but I highly doubt it will happen in the next few days, IF IT DOES, this thread and the readers will be the first to know..

all of my past invitro bags have been manure, maybe it's different for this coir.

lets hope it is ready by the weekend!! WOOHOO. (btw first of next week is 3-4 days, it being thursday, tomorrow being friday, monday would be the fourth day.)

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #7585234 - 11/01/07 07:08 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

wow, i spawned everything on 10-20-07, it's now the 1st, so it's been 12 days since spawning that I have fruits forming, that's pretty class act, considering the g2g's to get the spawn only took 5 days, so that's a total of 17 days, that's pretty fucking nice.

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #7589317 - 11/02/07 08:06 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

here's some 24 hour update pics:














the oak ridge bags are doing their thing, they continue to knot up and form pins, not a bad problem to have, but they can end up doing this for several days, they do this invitro, but not so much ive seen with other methods, like cakes/casings.

the blue meanie monotub w/o a casing layer is doing very well...

BUT,

I am having to fan/mist the monotub to keep the environment correct.

i don't like that, monotubs are supposed to be "set it and forget it"

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #7595008 - 11/04/07 03:30 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

another update:














the bags are doing good, Oak Ridge, as i said before, takes a long time to finish pinning before they really bolt upright.

The bluemeanie monotub is doing just fine w/o a casing layeR!

will update again tomorrow.

forgot one.



So far I am considering this a success. Now, if there were something to add to coir for even more nutes... something beyond the ordinary... I would almost consider giving up poo..

I'll keep updating daily.

edit: I wish I could take a 360* pic as they all have pins completely wrapped around them, not just on the parts i've focused on.

I still think it will be late monday even late tuesday night before I am drying anything.




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    #7595071 - 11/04/07 03:51 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

looking good jeet!


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    #7596079 - 11/04/07 07:57 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Woah, the mushrooms towards the left of that first pic looks like it's gonna be huge!

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    #7596089 - 11/04/07 07:59 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Woah, the mushrooms towards the left of that first pic looks like it's gonna be huge!




yeah it's about 6 inches so far, no where near opened up how i like it either.

My guess will be about 45+ wet grams.

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #7597789 - 11/05/07 09:34 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

12 hour update.

picked the large shroom

weighing in at about 10 g's dry.

got pretty large. Now the others r taking off.

YAY

some more pics:












I can't really foresee anything going wrong to cause this not to be a success, but i could be speaking to soon, who knows.

lets see in a day or two!

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #7597801 - 11/05/07 09:38 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

is it me or from 10-21 to 11-5 is 15 days from spawning the bags, letting it colonize, setting out to fruit, to pinning, pretty good.

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #7597845 - 11/05/07 09:55 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i quoted this from a different thread, but it's so true, i want it tatoo'd on my back,


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My 1st successful grow was rye spawned to poo,Why pf tek is recommended for beginners is beyond me,1st you have impossible to find ingredients than sitting there with the god forsaken coffee grinder till your thumb falls off,fanning,misting,air stones,bubble wands,pumps and tubing and blah blah blah blah.And them when you are lucky enough to get it right the payoff of your success(If you can call it that with a straight face)Is a few measly mushrooms for all your hard work.Why do people keep playing this practical joke on the newbies,Its a terrible thing to do to them,I remember what it was like to be them because it wasn't that long ago that I couldn't grow anything no matter how hard I tried.I don't know if it is just that the people who recommend it don't remember how hard this is when you 1st start and you are struggling but I sure remember and for everyone I help convince not to make themselves go through that nightmare I think that may be one person who may stick with this hobby and have a good harvest and enjoy them self and not say this isn't worth it and give up after being so horribly disappointed by what the get out of all their hard work.The work for payoff ratio for pf tek is like driving 500 miles to work all day for minimum wage,. :rant: in other words ITS NOT WORTH IT






i am wondering, what I could have added to my coir, for better results. I added nothing, but some malt syrup, water, and calcium carb.

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #7605637 - 11/07/07 05:08 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

K an update:

The monotub of coir seems to be producing the fruit sizes I want.
I wouldn't really say the invitro bags are phenomenal, as each fruit is roughly the same size as what you would get off of a brf cake.
This really works though. If you are considering SERIOUS bulk, then by far it seems coir monotubs FTW. The invitro bags are good for the novelist, whom just wants ample amounts for a good weekend. I like stashing back, and more stashing back.

No bioassay as of yet, i'll get back to that later.








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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #7605720 - 11/07/07 06:27 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Wow that really worked out well for you! Very nice

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    #7605727 - 11/07/07 06:32 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

thanks binarycircuit, I am pretty impressed with the multispore pinset without a casing layer, on the bluemeanie coir tub.

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #7605825 - 11/07/07 07:35 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Damn dude! Those are comming along nicely!! gonna get me some bags soon and try that out!


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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: kingboomer]
    #7606166 - 11/07/07 10:03 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

now, guys if you're going to do invitro poo bags, use manure/straw, not coir, (or a mix of coir/straw/manure)

here is a side by side comparison:

Manure: (these are very large and not opened yet)



Coir: (these are pretty small, about what you'd expect from a BRF pftek cake, less then a gram dry for most of them some not even half gram dry)



The coir bags, while the numbers are enormous, are from the oak ridge strain, that's a repetitive "problem" even with poo. Not a bad problem, but that many numbers on Coir that is not supplemented in some way calls for smaller fruitbodies.

I do believe, that the same quality/size mushroom can be gotten from coir, but it's going to have to have additives, it's really looking easier to just order compost/manure/straw from a shroomery sponsor like www.mycopath.com, or , additives for the coir.

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #7606601 - 11/07/07 11:46 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

add in some dried out used coffee grounds to the coir, my next monotub is 2 bricks of coir and 8 cups coffee grounds for the bulk. If everything goes well it should be a 4oz dry+ first flush.


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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: ButterWeasels]
    #7606746 - 11/07/07 12:28 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I am thinking, yeah, coffee grounds, some more malt syrup, some egg shells, some "sugar in the raw",

and my newly rehydrated F+ syringe to wbs,

I am switching to WBS also.

lol.

wow.

the two healthiest invitro bags yielded me 1.25oz dry.
Not bad for 2 invitro bags, I am used to manure giving 3oz dry per bag though.

I think maybe my moisture content was off also, as I brought it to casing layer capacity, when maybe it should have been a bit more wet.

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    #7606754 - 11/07/07 12:30 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

this was all an experiment for me to learn from,
and that I am doing.

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #7611105 - 11/08/07 12:59 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

here is the no casing layer having, nuteless coir having, lazy ass neglect bluemeanie monotub:


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    #7611511 - 11/08/07 02:49 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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here is the no casing layer having, nuteless coir having, lazy ass neglect bluemeanie monotub:






sick man. reminds me af a monotub i did a while back. you got more fruits though


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    #7611563 - 11/08/07 03:01 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

ooo ooo ooo what you going to do with all those prints jeet?

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    #7611571 - 11/08/07 03:02 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

with invitro bags coir,brf,flax and straw mixture is the bomb! make sure the bags have about 6in of substrate in each. that will provide for some monsters.

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    #7611770 - 11/08/07 03:48 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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with invitro bags coir,brf,flax and straw mixture is the bomb! make sure the bags have about 6in of substrate in each. that will provide for some monsters.




Well, again, I am searching for additives to make for plenty of fruits and more flushes, I am not thinking the bags will make it much past two flushes.

The coir tubs, however, with 4-5 inch depths, have always given me monsters.

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #7612594 - 11/08/07 08:00 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yeah its something like 3 bricks coir,4lbs brf, 1/4-1/2lb flax, add finely chopped straw dry no need to do anything. sterilize then knock'em up. they can go multiple flushes if your careful when picking.

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: durban_poison]
    #7643099 - 11/16/07 06:36 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

OK sorry,


I've been dealing with 1 wife, 3 babies, and sleeping/eating at a hospital for a week.

I apparently didn't get enough sun on all the kids, and at their age, they get jaundice real easy w/o a bunch of sun..

SO,

Daddy is installing a SKYLIGHT in an apartment, wonder what the manager will think.

HAHA.

ok,

My closet in diff place is completely full now.

i really don't know what the fuck im going to do with it all.

Here is kinda whats happening.

The blue meanie tub has flushed about a half lb dry so far, and still going, fucking bluemeanies rock.
The coir bags have flushed out 4 oz dry. Not bad for what it is.
I have 48 oak ridge/syzygy invitro poo bags beginning to pin, maybe a week until first flush, if that.

So, right now im sitting with about 13oz dry, and about 30-40 dry on the way.

PICS YOU SAY!!!:

These aborts will be make mighty fine tea




This tub of bluemeanie WITHOUT a casing layer, WILL NOT FUCKING QUIT!











If you even think about coming to my house, these two will eat your FUCKING BALLS OFF!!!



and next to the lake, i found this, shitty cell cam so u can't see all the fucked up little pins growing, but look at the roots!:




so, i'll be back in full force monday next week.

Been busy.

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #7643266 - 11/16/07 08:18 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

:congrats:  :bow:  :bowdown:

jeet is the fuckin man, 48 bags?  jesus fuckin christ,  your really makin me wanna try the blue meanies

i bet its somewhere in the post, but just a quick q?: about how much coir is in each bag, which flush to about 4 ounces dry? 





you inspired me to use lotsa coir when you started this thread, ive got a few bags and a couple tubs colonizing, albeit on a much smaller scale....if my projects are half as productive as yours ill be one very happy camper....anyway, thanks for the information and inspiration jeet!  keep up the insanely good work!!


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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #7643409 - 11/16/07 09:22 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Nice looking pics jeet! Always a pleasure reading your grow logs! I hope your babies are doing better. Take care!


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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: kingboomer]
    #7643606 - 11/16/07 10:33 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

jeetered great growlog man!

I've followed it to the T in a much smaller scale. Doing it alongside some straw spawn as well as a few straight cased rye to see some nice comparison.

hope mine turn out half as nice as yours.

coir is MUCH simpler to acquire & work with (in my area) than poo or straw, hope I see some results like yours.

based on your fine results without casing, would you say to go ahead and not case, or casing still has it's merits?

when you do case the coir in a monotub, what measures do you take to keep the casing moist? any spraying after applying the casing, or do you just let it go?

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    #7645726 - 11/16/07 08:28 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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:congrats:  :bow:  :bowdown:

jeet is the fuckin man, 48 bags?  jesus fuckin christ,  your really makin me wanna try the blue meanies

i bet its somewhere in the post, but just a quick q?: about how much coir is in each bag, which flush to about 4 ounces dry? 





you inspired me to use lotsa coir when you started this thread, ive got a few bags and a couple tubs colonizing, albeit on a much smaller scale....if my projects are half as productive as yours ill be one very happy camper....anyway, thanks for the information and inspiration jeet!  keep up the insanely good work!!




I guestimate about 2 full quarts of coir per bag, really great results, albeit, you do get much more yield from manure, but, as you can guess coir is MUCH easier and CHEAPER to obtain coir.

Thank you for the compliments also!

Please feel free to post any results you may have here, as well as your own log!

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Nice looking pics jeet! Always a pleasure reading your grow logs!  I hope your babies are doing better.  Take care!


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HEYA KBOOM always good to talk to you man... the babies are doing GREAT and im very happy about it, thank you for the kind regards!

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jeetered great growlog man!

I've followed it to the T in a much smaller scale.  Doing it alongside some straw spawn as well as a few straight cased rye to see some nice comparison.

hope mine turn out half as nice as yours. 

coir is MUCH simpler to acquire & work with (in my area) than poo or straw, hope I see some results like yours.

based on your fine results without casing, would you say to go ahead and not case, or casing still has it's merits?

when you do case the coir in a monotub, what measures do you take to keep the casing moist?  any spraying after applying the casing, or do you just let it go?




Casing most definitely has it's merits, I am hoping, that without that protective barrier, I do not acquire the greeny mold before the third flush.. When I do case, I keep my casing layer moist by spraying it down well over a period of time, until it's pinned up, then i just mist lightly into the tub with a squirt or two, enough that if it does get the fruits wet, it will absorb by osmosis.

I am so lazy, if you guys put just a little more effort into what i've done, you'll get much better results I would think, however, by keeping it simple, i think i limit any of the extra steps that may be extra vectors for contams..

OR, I am just one LUCKY  motherfucker.

Thank you people for keeping up with everything with me, im honored everyone may learn something or even be inspired. Just everyone fucking be safe, and stay out of trouble..

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    #7647138 - 11/17/07 10:08 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Hell i think i've been inspired to do a Coir montub!  :rastamon:

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    #7673665 - 11/24/07 06:44 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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    #7673780 - 11/24/07 07:53 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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Nice haul man!!! What'd those bad boys weigh?


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    #7673797 - 11/24/07 08:02 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

half lb dry.

can't find the other pic, another 2oz dry.
but so far, they've yeilded me about 19 oz dry. 4 bags and 1 tub.

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #7673847 - 11/24/07 08:17 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

i thought blue meanie was a type of pan cyan..i could be wrong..
either way we should trade! I'm sure i have something in my library
that you don't have or are interested in..

haha great job, i cant wait till spring FUCK WINTER
get well soon.


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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: wutang]
    #7673878 - 11/24/07 08:40 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

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i thought blue meanie was a type of pan cyan..i could be wrong..
either way we should trade! I'm sure i have something in my library
that you don't have or are interested in..

haha great job, i cant wait till spring FUCK WINTER
get well soon.




I asked jeet about this too its the cubensis with the name blue meanie not the real blue meanie .. which supposedly grows all over florida but I
have never seen one .

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: orchidfanatic]
    #7673940 - 11/24/07 09:19 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I thought the REAL blue meanie was an australian copelandia?

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #7674005 - 11/24/07 09:42 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

I thought it was pan cyan... sometimes called cope cyan

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: orchidfanatic]
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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: orchidfanatic]
    #7674419 - 11/24/07 12:34 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

either or, the blue meanie im doing is the Ps.Cubensis.
it's a seriously cold fruiter, like 50*F

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: Skeeblix]
    #8618757 - 07/10/08 06:30 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

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Wow, you, giving it up? Never thought I'd see the day. I'm sure you'll be back to it eventually. Almost everyone else I've ever seen posting about giving up the grow has been back.

Hope you feel better, man.




well, not only am i feeling better, I am about to add all the original posts and pictures back to this tek.

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see you soon!

and yeah, had to take my blue thumb back off the shelf, and start it up again, never could get the itch gone.

im doing some invitro coir bags right now with Hawaiian,





i just finished a 60 bag invitro grow of hawaiian too:


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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: jeetered]
    #8621816 - 07/11/08 01:09 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

cant wait to get the info for your coir bags:thumbup:

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: smokedout420]
    #8621869 - 07/11/08 01:21 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

i just pm'd you my mix, but im going to still post it up this weekend.

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: smokedout420]
    #8652143 - 07/18/08 05:43 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

how're the bags of hawaiian doing ?? all coir or did you choose to use manure ?

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: gdizzle]
    #8652151 - 07/18/08 05:46 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Gdizzle, this is kind of an old thread..

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Re: Jeetered's Ghetto Invitro Coir Bags and 1 monotub [Re: gdizzle]
    #8657311 - 07/20/08 01:00 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

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how're the bags of hawaiian doing ?? all coir or did you choose to use manure ?




posted a thread in growlogs about them "peSH"

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