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Edited by chojin (10/15/07 12:14 AM)
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research Sticky? [Re: chojin]
#7452575 - 09/25/07 03:58 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sure. Stuck. Hopefully we can keep things on topic.
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: chojin]
#7476927 - 10/02/07 09:23 AM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Any detailed techniques for extracting polysaccharides. I have a Soxhlet extractor that I picked up a couple of years ago. I'm itching to use it.
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: Morelman]
#7552335 - 10/23/07 06:13 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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Being new to the subject what are the medicinal benefits that stick out like a sore thumb?????????
Like a subject I'm more familiar with is Grass, and aside from many benefits it holds. The one that slaps me in the face is how it treats Nausea.
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: Minion]
#7898998 - 01/18/08 07:14 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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I currently work at a natural foods grocery store. One of my room mates works in the suplement section. I got a good fucking discount through her with New Chapter. So I ordered a bunch of myco medicinals. I'm taking a few right now in the form of their Mental Clarity product. Its predominantly Loin's Mane. Also I'm taking Reishi and Cordyceps. I'm taking 2 caps 3 times daily. My mood has improved exponentially. I feel otherwise great. I know the Reishi is supposed to produce a non-narcotic sense of well being. So I attributed my elevation in spirits to that. Also I have been getting more exercise lately. However I am normally pretty active anyways. Point being that I suffer from rapid cycling manic depression and seem to find more relief from what I'm taking right now. It might just be the cordyceps, it might be the reishi, or the combo. I'm sure the exercise helps. I do think that there is promise in this. Also note that I have never cared for anti-depressants and St John's Wort doesn't do much either.
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: mr_minds_eye]
#7902578 - 01/19/08 04:10 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Congrats MindsEye!
You are just happily learning what tons of other people have. We make our own and use about the same dose unless long time eater or diabetic etc.
The reishi energy isn't what is noticeable to me - just that I feel good and feel like doing more.
Keep well hydrated!
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: curenado]
#7904053 - 01/19/08 10:30 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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You know I have had issues with that but I wasn't sure what it was from. Probably the detox effects I would imagine.
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: mr_minds_eye]
#7909063 - 01/21/08 09:39 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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GREATFUL UN-DEAD:
This genleman was supposed to have been dead already for 9 years. He about was when I met him. Here he is and has been eating g/m mushrooms for 3.5 years among other things we have used for years.
Anyway, here is our clinical evidence for the medical power of mushrooms in the form of Mr. Barry Eubanks, featured in the "Tassili Liberty" article on the psilocybe medicine thread here...(link below in sig...page 5 or 6?)
http://www.youtube.com/user/crystalwoman57
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: Minion]
#7939854 - 01/27/08 10:43 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hmm I'm currently helping a mushroom expert with her book on the many different species of possibly-medicinal mushrooms. I just finished editing/type-setting a chapter on Alaska mushrooms and was surprised to find that several of the 38 species she described actually were traditionally taken as anti-cancer medicine! There's supposedly also scientific proof for a few of them, although mostly done in Asian countries. I haven't checked the references though since I don't have convenient access to them, so I can't say how accurate or "scientific" these studies are.
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Yeah, it sounds like you need to put in a few months of background and reference study. It's not that inconvenient to get access to study listings and relevant info.
All ours is practical and directly patient related, helpful is in the eye of the reader but
1) we had no hospitalizations and no deaths from flu or flu like illness this season (I think we are the only clinic in the area that can say that...) even though epidemic, mortality and child mortality levels were all over national baseline and
2) resistence was up to 4+ percent from less than 1 percent last year. (We saw this in people too) and
3) I had a 5x increase in patients manifesting hemoptosis (lung bleeding) when I actually had none last year.
Simply put, medicinal mushroom blends kept my adult and pedi patients "up out" of the local mess of it and the ones that did get sick got back out of it quickly with less severe symptoms.
This flu season was just practice (get ready...) but it did impact my practice in that I actually did have more than 1 or 2 people get sick and that is new for our patients...our nieghborhood/mountain is locally known for not getting strep or flu owing to the majority use of medicinal mushroom blends.
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: chojin]
#8449648 - 05/27/08 04:05 AM (4 years, 5 days ago) |
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Here is a very comprehensive site on this subject:
www.healing-mushrooms.net
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: Anno]
#8458780 - 05/29/08 06:27 AM (4 years, 3 days ago) |
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That is a great link!
I make my own reishi tea.
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: HerbBaker]
#8462963 - 05/30/08 07:58 AM (4 years, 2 days ago) |
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Folks PLEASE BE AWARE (I'm sure ANNO, Roger Rabbit, Whiterasta and the old masters will agree) SOME medicinals may be consumed in larger amounts and frequently (Reishi, Cordys, Turkey Tails etc...) however, some of the medicinals (like the Earth Star and some polypores) are specifically NOT consumed that way and are used in much smaller amounts and/or with much less frequency so it is VERY advisable to read the whole information and learn all you can so that you don't inadvertently cause yourself powerful side effects or even maybe damage by literally "overdosing". There are great medicinal mushrooms that in the right amounts are great and in the wrong amounts are considered neurotoxic with noticeable effects.
ALWAYS READ ALL THE INFORMATION Through especially comments on side effects and dosing, and when in doubt consult, consult, consult - I do very frequently and I have practiced medicine with numerous mushroom species for a decade and am considered the "arch-over" authority in my region (not that hard where I live but still) on integrative and biological medicine so that's my best advice - problems arise through not enough or misinformation.
OK! Hate to clog this thread up with comments but thought that was relative enough.
Best Wishes Always!
Quote of Stephen Peele, Florida Mycology Reasearch Center: "Dr. Karl! Mushrooms are a BUFFET of chemicals!" and he is right ask any of the old guys around here. 
EDIT/Addendum: MUSHROOMS & CHILDREN
I have a number of pediatric patients, ages 2-10, who use G&M mushrooms in lieu of commercial antibiotics, breathing/allergy medications & etc. I add these notes here owing to the increasing number of folks who are using mycomeds and their children.
Mushrooms typically are a "by weight" dosage though the dose parameters are fairly wide. Children will show side effects quickly from overuse though they are not serious and readily subside with temporary discontinuation and reduced dosing/frequency according to individual and condition. Specifically though and in all cases:
1) Children may manifest hematuria (fresh red blood in the urine) and epistaxis (spontaneous nose bleeds) if they are consuming too much reishi mushroom, and other mushrooms that affect platelet aggregation. Again: This is not serious and is easily fixed by stopping mushrooms for a day or two and then refiguring your dose/frequency. Children respond extremely well to mycomeds (as do some animals like dogs & cats) and don't usually require the frequency of adult humans.
So you don't necessarily need to panic and run for the ER if this happens to you, it's just a little surprising.:)
2) Ascorbic acid (Vitamin C) enhances reishi and children who drink a lot of juice and/or take Vit. C supplements may manifest the nosebleed or trace in the urine at lower amounts.
3) A typical dose here for a child is about 1/2 of a "00" capsule (I'll weigh one up at the school and add later) per 50 lbs. 1-2 times per day. If infection present we add about 1/4 gram/day vitamin C because ours are juice drinkers regularly.
These concepts aren't hard to approach with information and gaining a more intimate understanding of your own and your childs health and body tolerances. A great deal of doctor and ER visits can be prevented (in a infection increasing environment...) with simple diet additions and the "domestic administration of home remedies" as it is so called.
Best Always!
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: curenado]
#8536514 - 06/18/08 07:59 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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I am a cancer patient and follow this site http://sci.cancerresearchuk.org/labs/med_mush/med_mush.html for research into medicinal mushrooms related to the treatment of cancer. In the last few years some great research suggest that compounds in mushrooms may lead to the next round of cancer treatment breakthroughs. As mentioned it is important to research the use and dosage of any compound BEFORE ingesting it.
If anyone has information on a vendor that sales Ganoderma lucidum spores/syringes please pm me, it is commercially grown and has properties i am very interested in, but i cannot find a single person willing to share, most i contact claim there stuff is isolated, blah blah and won't come off a few spores 
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: exuviae]
#8536652 - 06/18/08 08:56 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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A shroomery sponsor that sells it:
http://sporeworks.com/store/catalog/Ganoderma-lucidum--Reishi-Ling-Chi-Mushroom-p-16139.html
Often you can get health stores to order you in the pills, and maybe one of our sponsors caries the pills as well:
http://www.shroomery.org/sponsors.php
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: chojin]
#9598288 - 01/12/09 09:11 PM (3 years, 4 months ago) |
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I found a shopping bag full two winters ago. Only used it for the occasional fire start. But I have three big grapefruit size chunks I plan on grinding up and dosing out as tea.
Wiki
Medicinal use
Since the 16th century, there are records of chaga mushroom being used in folk medicine and the botanical medicine of the Eastern European countries as a remedy for cancer, gastritis,ulcers, and tuberculosis of the bones.[citation needed] In 1958, scientific studies in Finland and Russia found Chaga provided an epochal effect in breast cancer, liver cancer,uterine cancer, and gastric cancer, as well as in hypertension and diabetes.[citation needed] Herbalist David Winston maintains that it is the strongest anti-cancer medicinal mushroom.[1] The antimutagenic action of the molecules found in the white part of birch bark where chaga feeds inhibits free-radical oxidation and also induces the production of interferons, which helps induce DNA repair.[citation needed] The substances, contained in white part of birch bark contribute to the decrease of hypoxia and to increase of the stability of organism to the oxygen deficiency, being antihypoxant correcting the metabolism of cells.[citation needed] The anti-cancer properties of betulin or betulinic acid, a chemical isolated from birch trees, is now being studied for use as a chemotherapeutic agent. Chaga contains large amounts of betulinic acid in a form that can be ingested orally, and it also contains the full spectrum of immune-stimulating phytochemicals found in other medicinal mushrooms such as maitake mushroom and shiitake mushroom.
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: exuviae]
#9950631 - 03/11/09 08:38 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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fungiperfecti sells grow bags that are already inoculated and the mycelium is already going throughout it. They also sell bottles of pills with different dosages. They sell all kinds of myco stuff. They are a little pricey, but I like them. The growbags colonize pretty fast. I have one right now that grew out of the bag through the filter patch and produced shelf style caps with no humidity tent. It was 4 inches wide. Which blew me away.
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: matits]
#10001127 - 03/19/09 12:19 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hi All,
Does anybody know of a grinder type of gadget that can ground up reshii/ganederma lucidum?
Or share how you ground it up for consumption.
The cut reshii stinks very badly when I tried boiling up for tea.
Thanks!:)
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: anthill]
#10080291 - 03/31/09 12:16 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Let them dry some if they are real fresh (ours are already so dry here outdoors but your area may be more humid and it's different) Also, make sure the area you are getting them from is clean. I've taken them from a stump in a car lot - a varnished them for show only.
Cut them into chunks and use a coffee grinder. It does not have to be "powder" for consumption or tea purposes, only capsuling.
You don't have to hard boil them by any means. Better to use a simmer and allow plenty of time.
It's actually much messier to extract powder than fine or small-medium grind and unnecessary to get the good stuff.
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: chojin]
#10312279 - 05/09/09 09:26 AM (3 years, 23 days ago) |
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all the posts are very informative. i'm a newbie with shrooms.
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: chojin]
#10312353 - 05/09/09 09:53 AM (3 years, 23 days ago) |
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This post is very informative. I'll save the info. Thanks for a great post.
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: Charlie2]
#10335044 - 05/13/09 09:02 PM (3 years, 18 days ago) |
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This is a very interesting subject, thank you for the information.
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This is a very interesting article on medicinal mushrooms in relation to Asian martial arts, by Paul Stamets (I didn't know he was a black belt!):
http://www.fungi.com/info/articles/martial.html
Contains an overview of Reishi, Maitake, Lion's Mane, Shiitake, and Cordyceps Sinesis
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: chojin]
#11098500 - 09/21/09 12:59 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Cordyceps
Improvement of Sperm Production in Subfertile Boars by Cordyceps militaris Supplement.
can this be compare to tong kat ali that help also the improvement of the sperm?
bean bags
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#11098540 - 09/21/09 01:19 AM (2 years, 8 months ago) |
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Intersting, sounds like sumthin I will have 2 look n 2 further.
Thanx 4 sharing!
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: Charlie2]
#11229975 - 10/11/09 09:16 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Same with me still learning about those mushroom 
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: Charlie2]
#11229984 - 10/11/09 09:17 PM (2 years, 7 months ago) |
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Same here I'm very noob at it, you all damn good experience with medicinal mushroom :o
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: faiNt]
#11363448 - 11/01/09 02:31 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hi, I'm new to all this. I have read some interesting things on the net about the use of psychedelic mushrooms to treat migraines. Are there any specific varieties I should look into?
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: soflogs]
#11393078 - 11/05/09 05:40 PM (2 years, 6 months ago) |
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Moderately potent to potent strains I think would be best. "Ecuadors or better" because there are a number of active mushrooms that would apply, but you would have to use larger amounts to obtain the same effects. I specifically would not choose the ps. cyanescens first, but that is not from personal experience just experienced selection. Regular cubies are what the articles are about.
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Medicinal Mushroom Research (Agaricus blazei) [Re: curenado]
#11585098 - 12/04/09 04:05 PM (2 years, 5 months ago) |
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Atlas World USA has a product Agaricus Bio.
Their mushroom strain has been featured in NIH-sponsered research.
This study along with many other Agaricus blazei studies are contained on their homepage which offers a wealth of information regarding this important medicinal mushroom.
http://www.atlasworldusa.com/
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: soflogs]
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Quote:
soflogs said:
Hi, I'm new to all this. I have read some interesting things on the net about the use of psychedelic mushrooms to treat migraines. Are there any specific varieties I should look into?
The site www.clusterbusters.com is the best source of info for treating neurovascular headaches (migraine, cluster headache) with psychoactive mushrooms.
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: Jonat]
#12049188 - 02/17/10 05:12 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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You can also check the psilocybe medicine thread here:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1581935/page/2/fpart/1/vc/1 - The Psilocybe Medicine Thread
You know Jonat - I realized I hadn't visited the cluster site since I wrote that article about them some time ago - I used your handy link and popped over to say hi and ask how their progress was going. While I'm still waiting for replies I am thinking they are still mostly in a "Had to help ourselves" situation which is pretty bleak, but at least more of them can and while progress hasn't been much the word has certainly gotten around and MANY more are getting help and relief.
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: chojin]
#12266968 - 03/24/10 10:35 PM (2 years, 2 months ago) |
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reishies are good for the soul
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: maxzar100]
#14827227 - 07/26/11 11:05 AM (10 months, 1 hour ago) |
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18844328
Hericium
has been shown to increase cognitive efficiency
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: chojin]
#15139480 - 09/26/11 09:43 PM (7 months, 30 days ago) |
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wow!this is the first that i heard that mushrooms can heal. Good discovery.I hope someday we can use this to cure diseases.
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I fractured my spine almost 2 years ago. Last week it all of a sudden started to hurt again and felt very similar to a few days after I had fractured it. I was gutted and didn't know if I would be able to work again for a long time. It would take me a long time to put on my socks or shoes, which I would have to be sat down to achieve. I had lost a great deal of flexibility in my back and it was very painful.
After a few days I was still the same. later in the evening I consumed a tea made with Psilocybe galandoi sclerotia. And yes i did trip balls, but to my amazement after about 30 minutes my back started to feel like it was healing and although it still felt rather fragile it had regained about 80 percent of its flexibility and hardly any pain! After the trip had worn off my back still felt really good, the next day I was able to get up and go to work, and do some fairly strenuous work all day! to me this felt miraculous, and I have a new respect for fungi in general, not just "active" fungi.
I find myself now wanting to understand and learn more about edible medicinal fungi.
Just thought I'd share my experience. I'd be interested in hearing if anyone else has had similar experiences with any fungi, especially in relation to helping with back/ spinal problems. Thanks for reading.
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Re: Medicinal Mushroom Research [Re: Charlie2]
#15212758 - 10/12/11 06:33 AM (7 months, 15 days ago) |
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GREAT ARTICLE!
I have been using mushroom for anxiety. They make me calm and relaxed, leaving my mood uplifted. I can't imagine not ever having them.
I had very bad anxiety and high stress to the point that my hair was falling out in clumps. I came across some shrooms and it was a 180 a half hour after I ate them. Now I eat them every 2 to 3 days as needed. I like to eat a few grams so I can get a nice trip. However there are times I can't. So I eat just enough to mellow me out.
THANK YOU GOD for the medicine that maintains me!
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I got some chaga today along with some other medicinal mushrooms the chaga tea is AWESOME! tastes like a mix between black and green tea, can't figure out how to post pictures though, I want to ID one I think might be Ganoderma Resinaceum. This is my first form. I'm surprised there aren't more posts about medicinal mushrooms, it seems (from my reading) there's a large selection of viable and potent medicine to be had.
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So Many Medicines!!!
Edited by excited-about-life (12/05/11 09:28 PM)
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