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varigated phalaris arundinacea DMT content?
    #7413647 - 09/15/07 05:48 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Well on erowid all the P. arundinacea it shows are a solid green color..
I recently found a bunch of phalaris grass, but its varigated(green and white) i looked it up n it looks like the strawberries n cream variety..
Does anyone know if varigeted p. arundinacea has significant DMT content, and if so what are the DMT ranges?
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Re: varigated phalaris arundinacea DMT content? [Re: learysprotoge]
    #7413682 - 09/15/07 05:58 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

how do you know it is P. arundinacea???
I grew some a few years ago and it was solid green.


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Re: varigated phalaris arundinacea DMT content? [Re: learysprotoge]
    #7413686 - 09/15/07 06:00 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I seriously doubt that specific research has been done on different varieties.
Probably the DMT content is not affected in any noticeable way by the differences in appearance(or rather the other way around if you do not believe in downwards causality), but it is not impossible.

Best way to find out: extract and do a quantitative analysis on it.
If you can; get someone with lab access to do a GC/MS:awesome:
If that's not an option just extract the alkaloids in a fancy fashion and assume high yields.

There should be instructions on quantitative analysis in the old research papers on Phalaris if you can find them, try google scholar or PMC.


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Re: varigated phalaris arundinacea DMT content? [Re: Nalim]
    #7414469 - 09/15/07 10:28 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

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Nalim said:

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If you can; get someone with lab access to do a GC/MS:awesome:
or PMC.



Dan I wish I had access to one of those..
But ummm I know its phalaris arundinacea cause ive seen it at a few nurseries labelled that, so I got my ID from there..


So nobody knows of diffent sub types of P. Arundinacea?
And has anyone tried an extraction of the varigated form?
If its active and of average DMT concentration, what yield can I expect per pound of wet grass?


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Re: varigated phalaris arundinacea DMT content? [Re: learysprotoge]
    #7428771 - 09/19/07 05:42 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Damn so nobody has any experience with the varigated variety?


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Re: varigated phalaris arundinacea DMT content? [Re: learysprotoge]
    #7428797 - 09/19/07 05:47 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

I saw it for sale at Home Depot a few years ago. It was labeled too.
I did read a report on it maybe on Erowid??? It worked in the report.


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Re: varigated phalaris arundinacea DMT content? [Re: cpw1971]
    #7429070 - 09/19/07 07:08 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah. I've seen it. It is also called dwarf ribbon grass but is Id'd as P. Aruninacaea.


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Re: varigated phalaris arundinacea DMT content? [Re: blazed123]
    #7429335 - 09/19/07 08:14 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Damn i wish i could get a conformation so i can fill a garbage bag or two with that shit


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Re: varigated phalaris arundinacea DMT content? [Re: learysprotoge]
    #7432186 - 09/20/07 02:46 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

Most strains of Phalaris are entirely useless for entheogenic applications. There are a variety of potential reasons for this:
1) Many tryptamine producers contain only small amounts. Many strains contain only low amounts of alkaloids period. [For example: Some like the variegated Phalaris arundinacea strains, known as "gardener's garters" or "variegated ribbon-grass" and the pink blushed "Strawberries and Cream", repeatedly showed no detectable alkaloids in tlc by Appleseed.]
source: http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/ayahuasca_apa/aya_sec3_part2_phalaris.shtml

If you're interested in Phalaris, this section of Trout's online book is a very useful read. Strains such as 'Big Medicine' and 'AQ-1' sound promising, as well as the species Phalaris brachystachys, which may have both the highest and cleanest concentration of tryptamines yet discovered.


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Re: varigated phalaris arundinacea DMT content? [Re: brachystachys]
    #7432648 - 09/20/07 04:37 PM (7 years, 1 month ago)

FUCK!


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Re: varigated phalaris arundinacea DMT content? [Re: learysprotoge]
    #10002337 - 03/19/09 06:12 PM (5 years, 7 months ago)

So... I picked this big bag of P. arundinacea var. picta leaves for nothing? Ugh. Throw this in the compost pile with the P. canariensis leaves I found too.

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