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Teotzlcoatl
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Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response)
#7374633 - 09/06/07 02:10 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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I just took two grams(2g) of kanna leafs off my kanna plants...Is this to much?
I swallowed it...
Aka..took it orally...
Please help!
Will I be ok?
Please respond soon!
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sublimistri
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
#7374653 - 09/06/07 02:17 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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did u ferment it? i dont think youl od, but i hear fermenting takes out some kinda toxin, so you could get ill or something
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Teotzlcoatl
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: sublimistri]
#7374661 - 09/06/07 02:19 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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seriously? No I didn't...
Somebody please resond or I may call the doctor...
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Teotzlcoatl
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
#7374672 - 09/06/07 02:24 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Somebody please resond!
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
#7374677 - 09/06/07 02:27 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Im no expert, but here is what i found -
In case of an overdose, nausea and headaches can occur and usually pass rapidly. A large overdose can result in palpitations (rapid heartbeat).and anxiety. Elevates blood pressure. Do not use in combination with MAO inhibitors, drugs and/or medication.
Anyone else have any experience?
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
#7374679 - 09/06/07 02:27 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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I've never even heard of it. It says that 100mg is a high dose, though. You took 2000mg. You might call poison control just in case?
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
#7374680 - 09/06/07 02:27 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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I know this is being an ass but.... this wouldn't have happened if you took synthetics.
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: blacksun]
#7374684 - 09/06/07 02:28 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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That doesn't sound very life-threatening.
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Teotzlcoatl
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: soda5187]
#7374688 - 09/06/07 02:30 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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WHAT SHOULD I DO?? Can somebody with experience help me
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sublimistri
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: soda5187]
#7374698 - 09/06/07 02:32 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Before dosing something.
Do you feel high or whats wrong?
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Teotzlcoatl
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: sublimistri]
#7374715 - 09/06/07 02:37 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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I feel high...but am worried...
If somebody with experience would please resond that would be great...
Cpw where are you?
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sublimistri
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
#7374724 - 09/06/07 02:40 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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I took and fermented one of my whole plants roots and leaves. Id say it was a good 2-3 grams, i chewed it and swallowed alot of it. Im pretty sure I felt more of a buzz than I usually do. Before dosing kanna next time heat it to ferment it, I think it was no higher than 210 degrees or something.
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: sublimistri]
#7374733 - 09/06/07 02:42 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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I took UNFERMENTED...HELP!
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
#7374759 - 09/06/07 02:46 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Dude, you're fine, lol.
2 grams of fresh material is equal to MAYBE 0.2 grams fermented and dry... you're perfectly okay.. I'm surprised you even feel effects, which I am assuming at this point is due to anxiety anyway. The kanna leaves are like 95% water or more, so most of those two grams were just that, water... You're not going to die, and you'll probably only get sick if you keep freaking yourself out like that. You'd have to eat a fair portion of even dry fermented kanna for it to pose a health threat. You're fine, chill out, and enjoy whatever buzz you might have. Fermentation doesn't really take out any toxins, I just believe it makes it more potent, maybe changes alkaloid makeup or something. Breathe. You're going to be alright. Hope this is reassuring (Yes, I have kanna experience, I grow and prepare it myself).
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Teotzlcoatl
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: emeryg89]
#7374763 - 09/06/07 02:46 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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THANK BUDDHA! YOUR FUCKING AWESOME
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Teotzlcoatl
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
#7374768 - 09/06/07 02:47 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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It was dried tho....
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
#7374774 - 09/06/07 02:50 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: sublimistri]
#7374775 - 09/06/07 02:50 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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You should be fine. i use the dried powdered stuff. Is it your first experience?
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Teotzlcoatl
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: sublimistri]
#7374777 - 09/06/07 02:51 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Will everyone please give emeryg89 a 5 shroom rating for helping a stupid shroominite with bad anxiety....
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: acneman]
#7374781 - 09/06/07 02:52 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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ah shit budda... you type fast
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Teotzlcoatl
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: acneman]
#7374791 - 09/06/07 02:55 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Guess what...now that I'm not freaking...I FEEL GREAT!
Sorry everybody...Mods you can delete this if you want...
Or we can leave it open to discuss Kanna...
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Edited by Teotzlcoatl (09/06/07 02:59 PM)
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: Salvia_Antics]
#7374980 - 09/06/07 03:47 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Salvia_Antics said: I know this is being an ass but.... this wouldn't have happened if you took synthetics.
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Teotzlcoatl
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: f0rce]
#7375014 - 09/06/07 03:58 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Hows that? I could OD on synthetic Kanna chemicals...
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
#7375050 - 09/06/07 04:07 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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yes you could've but your dosing could've been more accurate with synthetic as opposed to natural in which case you don't have a clue how much active alkaloid content per gram you are ingesting.
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: CosmicFunGuy]
#7375054 - 09/06/07 04:08 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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you are correct...
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
#7375099 - 09/06/07 04:22 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Never even heard about kanna before this post, but I looked it up and it sounds nice.
Where could I find some?
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I've got some kanna growing, but it's so slow... is there any way to speed it up? It's grown like half a cm in a month...
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: Siekoaktiv]
#7375927 - 09/06/07 07:46 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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try ethnobot
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: IgnatiusJReilly]
#7376235 - 09/06/07 08:53 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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yeah you cant od of 2 wet grams. the only thing that could happed is oxalic acid burns because it wasnt fermented or heat dried. also even though they say a dose is 200mg I didn't really get effects till I started eating a gram at a time. then it is great. I am sure 2 grams would be even better
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: cpw1971]
#7376254 - 09/06/07 08:57 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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I also suggest ordering some prefermented Kanna online. I had a 30 gram bag to go through testing with and I found 1 gram doses to be way beyond placebo and quite euphoric. like a light mescaline dose almost.
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: cpw1971]
#7376338 - 09/06/07 09:19 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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i just looked it up but fresh Kanna has potentially dangerous levels of oxalic acid that will break down from fermenting and drying. the oxalic acid could give you kidney stones now if you use prepared Kanna you could probably use 10 grams and probably just get the shits
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: cpw1971]
#7376374 - 09/06/07 09:24 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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whats a good dose to get good effects from eating it? and does iamshaman sell it prefermented because i checked there and they didnt mention anything about it. otherwise what vendor do you recommend?
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: Locus]
#7376516 - 09/06/07 09:49 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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1 gram also Bouncing bear has it
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: cpw1971]
#7377104 - 09/07/07 01:44 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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You give so much advise and take too much "kanna" too.
Thats weird.
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: yageman]
#7378306 - 09/07/07 11:15 AM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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lmfao, this thread makes me laugh. when are people gonna learn to do a little research before they put foreign shit into their bodies.
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: Divinatory]
#7378482 - 09/07/07 12:08 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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this is the funniest shit i have read in a long time.
sounds about as intelligent as every other 15 yr old out there
im surprised he didnt snort the whole fresh plant and choke to death.
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Teotzlcoatl
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: CptnGarden]
#7378648 - 09/07/07 12:51 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ya it was dumb...but I'm not 15...
It was dried, but unfermented...
It was actually alot of fun, but I had an anxiety attack, once that was over it was great....
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Re: Kanna Overdose (Need Quick Response) [Re: yageman]
#7379609 - 09/07/07 03:55 PM (16 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
yageman said: You give so much advise and take too much "kanna" too.
Thats weird.
you ever try Kanna??? I get nothing from 200 mg. 1 gram is where the effects start for me.
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