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According to Mythbusters
    #7357147 - 08/31/07 10:16 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

According to mythbusters (that show on the discovery channel) if you play your plants music they WILL grow better. the experiment was as follows over the span of 2 months...

1 control room (no music or talking)
2 rooms talking nice ( recording of someone saying oh you're so beatiful i love you etc)
2 rooms talking mean (YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT etc)
1 room of Classical Music
1 room of death metal

All "rooms" are separate greenhouses located on the top of their building with water timers to give each plant the exact same amount of water. All the sound was recorded, placed on a CD in a boombox and played constantly.

... the order in which how well they did (in terms of plant mass)

heavy Metal
classical
talking nice/mean were equal
controlled room did the worst of all.

So for all you growers out there it'd be interesting to see if it would yield larger shrooms or whatever you're growing.


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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: learningtofly]
    #7357157 - 08/31/07 10:23 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

there was a book written called "the secret life of plants"

it has as lot of experiments like this, and they found out plants will actually form relationships with your emotions.

someone would look at a plant and think of burning it and they would get readings on some sort of machine like the plant was literally "shaking" from being scared, then they would think sweet thoughts while looking at it and it would thrive.

they also found out that plants react to the destruction of living cells.
when you poor hot water down the drain, every plant within 50 ft is scared and effected, because your killing thousands of little living bacterias.

ive literally watched grass jump around as the lawn mower pointed towards it (not being blown by air or anything).


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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: CptnGarden]
    #7357163 - 08/31/07 10:25 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

cool i'll look into that book. I posted the ingrediants of the cactus juice in my san pedro post, could you take a look at it?

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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: learningtofly]
    #7357165 - 08/31/07 10:25 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

i watched the same one and i thought that there was no difference except for the one being yelled at because of the co2 being released from them yelling/breathing.

also this is the ethno forum if you are talking about shroom try mush cult, and BTW i think i seen this same thing get asked 4-5 times before if you search posts you will find it

here is one thread from 1 sec of searching

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/3212750#3212750


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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: royer]
    #7357168 - 08/31/07 10:27 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah but according to the show talking didn't help as much. BTW there is no co2 from a recording of them.


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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: learningtofly]
    #7357174 - 08/31/07 10:29 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

lol i know that there is no co2 coming out of a radio

LOL

i said in my post "except for the one being yelled at because of the co2 being released from them yelling/breathing."

that didn't say a radio releases co2

it has been a while sence i have seen that episode so i ma be wrong




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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: royer]
    #7357196 - 08/31/07 10:40 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

yeah but that wouldn't matter because all of them except the control (W/out a radio) had a radio in the greenhouse and the control one did the worst.


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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: learningtofly]
    #7357214 - 08/31/07 10:46 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

While this is kinda like that Soninbloom thing...where a birds tone is played to increase plant growth...what we need to do is figure out what sounds works best for each species of plant...

I bet it's whatever is closest to their natural habitat...


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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
    #7357226 - 08/31/07 10:51 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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While this is kinda like that Soninbloom thing...where a birds tone is played to increase plant growth...what we need to do is figure out what sounds works best for each species of plant...

I bet it's whatever is closest to their natural habitat...




You know, I think you're on to something there... I'm going to make a few looping soundtracks to play for different types of plants, just to test it out. Could someone help me name types of plants, and the types of sounds that are most likely in their natural habitat? This might be an interesting experiment...


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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: Siekoaktiv]
    #7357235 - 08/31/07 10:56 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

umm try a river running, rain, wind, crickets chirping, bird songs...

Does anybody know about negitive and positive ions? Maybe they have some effect...I know they can on humans...


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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
    #7357240 - 08/31/07 10:58 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

I was also thinking of perhaps its not the type of music but the vibrations?


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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: learningtofly]
    #7357255 - 08/31/07 11:04 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Aw! you may be right! Thats what death metal effected it the best perhaps... It may even work with sounds humans can't even hear...

What are we thinking...or course it's not the sound...plants have no ears to hear sounds...its the vibrations!


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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
    #7357318 - 08/31/07 11:32 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

If it is indeed the vibrations (which im positive it is), I guess its LOTS of them, perhaps a techno beat w/ lots of bass would do the trick?


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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: learningtofly]
    #7357376 - 08/31/07 11:57 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Or a very low frequency, below the range of human hearing, but loud enough to where you can feel it...


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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: learningtofly]
    #7357377 - 08/31/07 11:57 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

play that fucking heavy fucking metal at volume 11 for them :rockon:
  oh and learningtofly....
    hey man there wasn't a post on sound that I saw on here at all and then I posted about it last week "sonic bloom thread" and even brought up the mythbusters episode and now I find this thread a few days later.  hmmmm 


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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: cpw1971]
    #7357383 - 09/01/07 12:00 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

yeah but wouldn't you just make 10 louder? On a side note, looking at the set list for austin city limits, theres a band called "We go up to 11"


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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: learningtofly]
    #7357387 - 09/01/07 12:02 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

did you see the movie Spinal Tap?????


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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: cpw1971]
    #7357395 - 09/01/07 12:06 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

hell yeah i saw spinal tap, thats why I said "Wouldnt you just make 10 louder" and pointed out that theres a group called "We go up to 11"

That part is hilarious "Its still got the tagger on it, dont touch it, don't even look at it" "Look at this amp it goes up to 11 - but why wouldn't you just make 10 louder? - but it goes up to 11"


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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: learningtofly]
    #7357421 - 09/01/07 12:16 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

yep  it has been a long time since I saw it so I didnt remember all that  :tongue:


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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: cpw1971]
    #7358570 - 09/01/07 01:03 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

my plants listen to the radio 24/7 lol


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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #7358651 - 09/01/07 01:34 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

I'm going to get a recording of rain and wind to put next to my cacti...


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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
    #7358657 - 09/01/07 01:35 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Did mythbusters note if increased VOLUME affected the plants more?

Or just different frequency...


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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
    #7358660 - 09/01/07 01:36 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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I'm going to get a recording of rain and wind to put next to my cacti...




what if they rot? :confused: :frown:


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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: CptnGarden]
    #7358773 - 09/01/07 02:21 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

haha that would be cool! Cause i would know that sound has a HUGE effect on cacti...

Well...sort of cool...I'd lose all my cacti be would have proven the experiment...


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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: learningtofly]
    #7358784 - 09/01/07 02:25 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

yeah its interesting, ive been thinking about this lately and every time i play music on my guitar or something.

does it work for shrooms too?


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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: Locus]
    #7358824 - 09/01/07 02:46 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Nobody knows...


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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: CptnGarden]
    #7358855 - 09/01/07 03:05 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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there was a book written called "the secret life of plants"

it has as lot of experiments like this, and they found out plants will actually form relationships with your emotions.

someone would look at a plant and think of burning it and they would get readings on some sort of machine like the plant was literally "shaking" from being scared, then they would think sweet thoughts while looking at it and it would thrive.

they also found out that plants react to the destruction of living cells.
when you poor hot water down the drain, every plant within 50 ft is scared and effected, because your killing thousands of little living bacterias.

ive literally watched grass jump around as the lawn mower pointed towards it (not being blown by air or anything).




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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: CptnGarden]
    #7358897 - 09/01/07 03:22 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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there was a book written called "the secret life of plants"

it has as lot of experiments like this, and they found out plants will actually form relationships with your emotions.

someone would look at a plant and think of burning it and they would get readings on some sort of machine like the plant was literally "shaking" from being scared, then they would think sweet thoughts while looking at it and it would thrive.

they also found out that plants react to the destruction of living cells.
when you poor hot water down the drain, every plant within 50 ft is scared and effected, because your killing thousands of little living bacterias.

ive literally watched grass jump around as the lawn mower pointed towards it (not being blown by air or anything).





Is this a joke? Either its the funniest thing I've seen or quite possibly the dumbest thing I've seen. Do you really believe this?

This is up there with this.

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    #7358957 - 09/01/07 03:48 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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CptnGarden said:
there was a book written called "the secret life of plants"

it has as lot of experiments like this, and they found out plants will actually form relationships with your emotions.

someone would look at a plant and think of burning it and they would get readings on some sort of machine like the plant was literally "shaking" from being scared, then they would think sweet thoughts while looking at it and it would thrive.

they also found out that plants react to the destruction of living cells.
when you poor hot water down the drain, every plant within 50 ft is scared and effected, because your killing thousands of little living bacterias.

ive literally watched grass jump around as the lawn mower pointed towards it (not being blown by air or anything).





Is this a joke? Either its the funniest thing I've seen or quite possibly the dumbest thing I've seen. Do you really believe this?

This is up there with this.

Also Believes Plants need help from our nation.




LoL What the fuck is that girl talking about? She didnt even answer the question she just went on about other countries.


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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: learningtofly]
    #7359041 - 09/01/07 04:32 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

I wonder if smoking weed in the same room or the same house as my plants scares or upsets my growing plants? :frown:


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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: StrandedVoyager]
    #7359046 - 09/01/07 04:35 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

yeah they dont like smoke


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    #7359410 - 09/01/07 07:19 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

*because it clogs their pores


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    #7360613 - 09/02/07 03:22 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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there was a book written called "the secret life of plants"

it has as lot of experiments like this, and they found out plants will actually form relationships with your emotions.

someone would look at a plant and think of burning it and they would get readings on some sort of machine like the plant was literally "shaking" from being scared, then they would think sweet thoughts while looking at it and it would thrive.

they also found out that plants react to the destruction of living cells.
when you poor hot water down the drain, every plant within 50 ft is scared and effected, because your killing thousands of little living bacterias.

ive literally watched grass jump around as the lawn mower pointed towards it (not being blown by air or anything).




I love that book! For all you non-believers out there stfu and read it, then come talk shit about it.

The machine in question is a simple polygraph (aka the lie detector, yes like the one you always see in the movies)

It's a VERY interesting book, even though a bit old. I recommend it to anyone interested in plants


Maybe the vibrations from the music are help to bring CO2 to the leaves by shaking them ever so slightly? It would seem to make sense seeing how the death metal had the best results, and that the two talking rooms had the same results regardless of their attitudes.


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    #7360727 - 09/02/07 04:31 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

They were growing in pots provably with perlite in the soil so the vibration would help keep the soil aerated.

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    #7360788 - 09/02/07 05:04 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

I'd like to see the experiment repeated a lot of times to see what happens, to prove that the music versus silence is more than statistical anomaly. Otherwise my hypothesis is that heavy metal, with it's basslines, would stimulate the parts of the plant that classical and higher pitched voices wouldn't reach.

Now I want to do an experiment with signal generators and various LFO's.


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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: Teotzlcoatl]
    #7360855 - 09/02/07 06:55 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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Did mythbusters note if increased VOLUME affected the plants more?

Or just different frequency...




Neither, really. They just tested different types of music. Personally, I suspect it is the vibrations from the sound that help the plants grow better. Based upon your question, I'm guessing you have the same suspicion.


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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: Seuss]
    #7360866 - 09/02/07 07:09 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

I would guess that mythbusters as always used a way to small test group to get significant results.

In short: they suck and everything they to is worthless POS tests which prove nothing, they don't even give good indications one way or another.


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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: Nalim]
    #7362004 - 09/02/07 05:09 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

I can see low vibrations helping a plant grow faster. When I threw a fan into my veg box, my babies got nice n thick. So if you're blasting something like Basshunter for them, the vibrations from that would probably have the same effect due to the shaking. :thumbup:


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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: Visionary Tools]
    #7362041 - 09/02/07 05:21 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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I'd like to see the experiment repeated a lot of times to see what happens, to prove that the music versus silence is more than statistical anomaly. Otherwise my hypothesis is that heavy metal, with it's basslines, would stimulate the parts of the plant that classical and higher pitched voices wouldn't reach.

Now I want to do an experiment with signal generators and various LFO's.



well the mythbusters did one test only and I didnt see any soundproofing to isolate thier mini greenhouses acoustically.
but look at the the guy that developed sonic bloom. he worked on it over 10 years and even got into the guinnes book of world records and he uses a high pitched warbling noise.


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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: karode13]
    #7362366 - 09/02/07 08:23 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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what year was that printed? I have the 1973 copy.


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Re: According to Mythbusters [Re: learningtofly]
    #7364171 - 09/03/07 01:58 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

No big mystery...

Wind makes plants meatier and stronger. They have to step up their vigor to withstand it.

Vibrations move plants like wind and shakes the soil.


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