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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: enesi]
    #7356751 - 08/31/07 04:33 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

alright thanks a lot!
ill try it out.


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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
    #7356806 - 08/31/07 04:55 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

In your trip report you said 5-6mg...did you mean 50-60? That is about how much you need to smoke at once to have a breakthrough dose. You should be able to vaporize an entire 50mg dose in 1 to 3 large hits.

If you don't have a scale, it can be hard to judge how much you really have loaded up


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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: enesi]
    #7356912 - 08/31/07 05:41 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

haha yea 50-60mg sorry.
I have a mg scale no worries.


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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
    #7357081 - 08/31/07 06:43 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Good luck then, I'm sure you'll report back when you breakthrough!


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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: enesi]
    #7357353 - 08/31/07 08:47 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

how long should I hold each hit in for?

last night I held each one for about 15 seconds. I just don't know if ill be able to take 3 hits and hold each in that long because after the second hit I was starting to forget how to light a pipe


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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
    #7357389 - 08/31/07 09:02 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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how long should I hold each hit in for?

last night I held each one for about 15 seconds. I just don't know if ill be able to take 3 hits and hold each in that long because after the second hit I was starting to forget how to light a pipe


that should be plenty of time..just keep it up until it's all vaporized. I hold it in until i can't stand it, exhale and immediately take another. usually by the 3rd all the spice is gone.

It just takes a little practice to find what works best for you.


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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: enesi]
    #7357607 - 08/31/07 10:31 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

the trick is to take multiple hits without exhaling (or exhaling as minimal amount of smoke as possible)


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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: demius]
    #7357717 - 08/31/07 11:43 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

hi!
i'm caupuri from amazon forest. i have jurema, chaliponga and chacrona a lot... i would to know if is possible extract dmt this plants, and how?
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: caupuri]
    #7357963 - 09/01/07 02:50 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

I now know the meaning of "set and setting"

I broke through. and am coming down as I write this.

I was looking out my window as I was taking the hit, starring at some trees, thinking to myself how beautiful the trees will look once the dmt hits me, and how happy ill be, but it took a turn for the worse.

about the set and setting.. my setting was perfect, but my mindset wasn't that great. at the moment I was perfectly content, but me and my gf are having problems right now so I'm not in the best mindstates. however I didn't think this would be a problem because I felt fine before I took the hit, I was happy, no worries, but I guess deep down inside I was still torn up.

as I was looking at the tree I set my pipe down, the tree started to disintegrate, everything seemed to turn rapidly into pixels, and then into fragments, and then the outside (trees, road, grass, sky) broke like it was painted on a window and I blasted it with a shotgun. so I layed back into my bed, it was already overwhelming me so much faster than last night, I began to get scared. this is where it turned bad. I started freaking out. my entire future literally flashed before my eyes. I live with my parents and they are asleep right now, but I felt there were 2 people beside me, I figured they were my parents. I was freaking out worse than ever in my life, thinking about a million thoughts at once, like why did I make this stuff and smoke it knowing if my parents really did walk in I would lose everything I've worked so hard for. I overdosed a couple years back and had a NDE, my parents were there beside me, I had a flashback to that moment, I felt like my mom was holding me telling me it'll be okay. I kept telling myself to calm down because in only 2 minutes it'll be over. the visuals were so intense, but I paid no attention to them because I thought I was dying in front of my parents. I couldn't feel my body at all, but I knew what my body was doing. I sat up and kept touching my face to see if I was still in one piece, I thought my teeth were falling out and I felt like I was choking on them, and I felt like my mouth was pouring out blood all over my bed. at this point I started to think what if my parents aren't really in my room watching me bleed everywhere, so I started thinking of what I can tell them when I come down and have no teeth and blood splattered all over the place. I felt like I wasn't breathing at all, I thought I was suffocating on all the blood, and then I felt like I actually drowned in my own blood, feeling my heart stop and my soul lift from my body. I didn't want to die so jolted up and my soul came right back into my body. I was moving around all over my bed. I kept trying to find my lamp so I can see what was happening, but this was impossible because the visuals completely replaced everything I once saw, my eyes were open the entire time. at this point I felt like I had nothing left in life, that this was it, so I just sat there motionless, trying to calm myself down, praying for reality to come back. I finaly saw a little light coming from my alarm clock, seeing this light I knew exactly where to reach for my lamp, I turned my lamp on but still couldn't see anything in my room. I closed my eyes but the visuals got much more intense and I started freaking out again. slowly my lamp light became more visible until I could start to make out my room again. I checked my bed, no blood, my teeth were still there, I ran to the bathroom, no blood, I looked perfectly fine. and now I'm here, writing this, still shaking from the 5 minutes of pure terror I just went through.

so that's basically it, again there's really no way I can put into correct words what I just felt, the english language can't explain it. I feel pretty calm now that I'm still alive and have all my teeth.

I learned so much these past 10 minutes, this substance is definately not something to fuck around with. it can take your deepest, darkest emotions and rip them from your body and soul and beat you to hell with them. I also learned to appreciate life, and the people around me that care about me. I learned so much more but I think the rest is better kept to myself.

ill be waiting until I'm emotionally stable to have another dmt experience, I can't imagine what ill feel like if I'm completely happy before I take that first hit.

so there ya go, if you've never done dmt before, be sure you have nothing to hide, and are in a perfect, content mindset before you take that hit, I've seriously never felt so scared for my life before, and now I'm just utterly happy to be alive.

oh and I tried vaporizing with the lightbulb, it didn't really work, so I put some ash down in the bowl of my pipe, put the dmt on top, held the lighter over the dmt and let it melt, then I sucked the flame down into the bowl while breathing in.

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even though I went through all that, I came to baseline finally, i looked at my pipe to see the black ball of ash, andi wanted to take a small toke, knowing from last night that a small hit will make me very happy. I took the hit, surprisingly I started to feel something. everything started getting brighter, about 30 seconds passed and I felt like it was already going away, so I took another tiny toke, and them BAM! it started hittng me hard. I knew I wasn't going to breakthrough but it was still pretty intense coming on. I close my eyes for only about 2 seconds, and I started to feel fear again. I opened my eyes and started wispering "its okay, just let go and relax" so I did. I just let it take me. I kept whispering " I could be freaking out right now but I'm not" because I felt like I was right on the line where I could go one way and freak out or go the other way and feel safe, but riding on that line in the middle was pretty fun and it made me really happy. the visuals were crazy, but I could still make out everything I saw so I felt safe. I looked outside at the tree, there's just something about that tree, even though there are about 100 trees mixed in, this one tree was brightly lit, moving, morphing, and dancing while all the others were dark and motionless.

I'm completely back to baseline, I'm gonna take 2 more hits and ill be done for the night. I'm gonna try and figure out why I freaked out so bad, and how it can help me, with the lights on and my eyes open of course :smile:

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this time its all visuals, I cant think about why it happened or how its gonna help me, because I'm too overcome by the beauty that's surrounding me. the tree again, dancing, elegant. I don't have much more to say now, I need to give my lungs a break. this night has been intense, a night ill never forget. I feel like I'm just rambling, I don't know what all of you think of me now, I really don't care, I don't even know why I'm typing all this shit out. the visuals are gone, but all the colors look pretty, and now my emotions are coming. ill leave it at that. I'm going to transfer these trip reports into the trip report section, and write each time I trip. I think next time I'm going to record myself, and then just type it up later.

sorry for such a long post.
thanks if you read the whole thing, and I hope you got something out of it.


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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: Divinatory]
    #7358387 - 09/01/07 08:56 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

so you didn't meet any entities or elfs eh? lol


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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: enesi]
    #7358753 - 09/01/07 11:16 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

I probably did, but like I said I paid no attention at all to the visuals.


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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: Divinatory]
    #7358832 - 09/01/07 11:49 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Sounds like some difficult experience. Yeah set and setting are very important with any drug. I think having someone taking care of you is also a good idea, both times i did it someone was looking after me.

Take care man.


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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: Infested]
    #7358854 - 09/01/07 12:04 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

I've never had a bad trip before, set and setting have never really influenced the effects of any drug I've taken. a trip sitter would've helped a lot. I've done tons of research, read countless reports and books on dmt, but nothing came close to preparing me for it. but hey you gotta learn some way, I'm kinda glad it happened, it showed how powerful something so simple can be.


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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: Divinatory]
    #7358874 - 09/01/07 12:15 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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I probably did, but like I said I paid no attention at all to the visuals.




they aren't visuals, that's why people refer to them as entities


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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: demius]
    #7358934 - 09/01/07 12:39 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

yea that makes sense, I honestly don't know what I saw, I can't remember anything I was seeing because I was so worried about if I was okay or not. all I really remember seeing was the flashback I had, and then I felt the presense of 2 entities but I can't remember if I saw them or not. the feeling of those 2 entities by my side automatically made me think of my parents.


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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: Divinatory]
    #7358995 - 09/01/07 01:04 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

yea, they aren't really just visuals, they are real hallucinations. Actual little beings and shit, not just a shape in a complex grid of patterns, lol.

Keep going though, take a few more trips and report back :wink:


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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: demius]
    #7359018 - 09/01/07 01:20 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

yea I can see how they would be like actual hallucinations, because during the flashback it was like I was seeing myself perfectly clear like in reality, but the complex grid patterns were surrounding this clear view of reality I had.

I'm gonna wait a week or 2 before I have another breakthrough, I need to fix a few things in reality before I travel back to hyperspace. ill report back though :thumbup:


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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: enesi]
    #7360511 - 09/01/07 11:42 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Having your fathers around isn't probably the best setting.


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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: Divinatory]
    #7360817 - 09/02/07 02:28 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

excellent trip reports bro-- and a strong reminder to all that think this experience is no more than these played-out and unfortunately sought-after cartoon images of elves and space-aliens.

I wish there were a way to let that ridiculous story die--- why people want to preach the visions of one dude you read about as "the" trip experience to strive for and create in your own mind is beyond me.

DMT gives a unique gift to each user-- I don't want to trade in "my" intimate messages for the pictures some other guy said I should see (even a popular a guy as T. McKenna)... and I can't see why so many are so intent to muddy the experience with another mans storytelling...

It's an extremely strong psychedelic, and should be treated as such--- potentially (and often) a lot more than anything any person, famous or not, has ever written about...

Best wishes--
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: coAsTal]
    #7361222 - 09/02/07 08:45 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

thanks!
you're right though, people expect too much now because of all the reports that say the same thing, maybe that's why I had a bad trip, I went into it expecting nothing really, I didn't think about contacting the "self-transforming machine elves" or spheres made of unknown metal... I always try and have an open mind when I trip.


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