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 Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: enesi]
#7342517 - 08/27/07 09:35 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hmm I have Phallaris Arundacea but I don't see many of you guys reffering to using that. Is it such a low potency that it's not worth it? I have an almost unlimited amount (as in I could get pounds of leaves) does anyone know of a good TEK working for pahllaris? Most TEK's I've read have been non plant specific but you guys make it sound like some TEK's work for some plants and not others.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Acaterpillar]
#7343952 - 08/28/07 08:41 AM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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enesi: ill update with pics in the next couple days, I got A LOT cleaner crystals this time, however there were still some impurities that fell out and turned into a goo and had some crystals that dissolved with it, I heated that up along with the naphtha and am currently supersaturating it, ill freeze-precip that tonight to get the rest of the crystals out and will post pics when it dries.
rabidbaboon: you can definately do an extraction with phalaris, you can pretty much follow any tek that you want except you'll have to do a lot of initial de-fats, that's the reason people don't usualy use it is because there's soo much more fats than dmt which means a lot more time is invovled and a lot more material is used, its just way cheaper and more time consuming and better yield to use mimosa.
but if you have that much and don't mind all the defats, washes, and recrystallizing, then go for it.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7346798 - 08/28/07 10:52 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Will lemon juice (or powdered lemon extract) be acidic enough for seperating the chrystals from oils/fats? And then it seems as though people are saying if using phalaris that you're going to need quite alot of naphtha...
The wheat juice extractor seems very appealing to me, but cost can deter me away. I hear though that cheaper things like carrot juicers work as well. It'd be neat to mix the juice I get from the phalaris with a possible MAOI (I hear the possibility of passiflora having harmoline is this good for ayahuasca? I believe the harmoline is diluted though, and I would want to know how to extract it without extracting the benzo-related alkaloids) I would be dettered from ayahuasca though as it seems their are many dietary and pre-ritual measures taken.
Also I hear about converting the DMT into freebase form, if this is necessary then how would the wheat juice work in freebase form?
Also (sorry about all the questions) I hear about bufotenine being in phalaris making it unpleasant. It seems there's a mixed opinion about phalaris, do any of you have personal experience with it? Is it really mostly 5-meo-DMT rather than just DMT?
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Acaterpillar]
#7348313 - 08/29/07 11:28 AM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm not sure if that would be acidic enough or not, but yes you will need lots and lots of naphtha, that's why its just so much cheaper and easier using mimosa, you'll have to do many de-fats and an a/b extraction with phalaris, mimosa only needs a base extraction and you can usually get away with 1 can of naphtha.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7355347 - 08/31/07 09:02 AM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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good thing I freeze-preciped the left over naphtha because I got a lot of crystals from it, combined I got a total of 1.5 grams (scale says 1.44 but I smoked the .6 last night)
okay I have a question, tell me if I brokethrough or not, I don't think I did..
I used 60mg on top of a screen in a regular glass pipe, I was so scared to take that first hit because I've read so much about the experience but I really didn't know what to expect. looked at the clock it said 12.45 and I manned up and took the hit. I figured it would be slow burning and lots of smoked, but instead it liquified and went right through the screen, not much smoke at all, and it actually tasted quite nice (I always read how horribly plastic/rubber tasting and harsh it was) 5 seconds later I was thinking to myself.. that's it? I thought there should be more smoke, guess I didn't smoke enough to do anything... still holding my breath I felt something in my foot working its way up my leg and body to my head at about 3 inches a second, I layed down because I knew it was gonna happen now. every inch of my walls/doors/ceiling are covered in pictures and psychedelic posters, I had a dim lamp on, the pictures weren't lit up very well. once I layed down the intense body rush was overwhelming me and at about 15 seconds in my whole room lit up like I had 100 metal halides. I turned my lamp off because I wanted darkness, my fan turned into a huge color wheel with sparks of color coming off, some colors that I've never seen before. my pictures all had new colors and were swirling and breathing and taking on new shapes and form, I then closed my eyes. it was surprising how easily it was to think, all I could think to myself was "OMG!! OMG!! OMG!!!" I also thought it was amazing at how long I held the hit in for, usually if I held my breath that long I would be gasping for air and breathing deeply trying to get my oxygen level back up, but after I blew the hit out I felt very comfortable and my lungs at ease, I wasn't breathing hard, barely at all it seemed like but just enough so I stopped worrying about my breathing and moved on. I had the "WOH WOH WOH" sound you get from doing whippets, but it wasn't annoying like whippets, I also had a sound like a radio frequency, it kept building and building as I reached the peak, at the peak it sounded like I was literally standing next to a boing 747 jet engine, but it was a pleasant sound and didn't hurt my ears. I can't even begin to explain the visuals, 3D geometric patters, colors I've never seen before, structures and patterns I've never seen before, that's about all I can put into words about the visuals.. at the peak I got the biggest erection of my life, and it felt like a complete body orgasm, but better than any orgasm I've ever had (I've had some pretty amazing ones on mdma, this time didn't even come close though). even though I had this body orgasm, I felt like my body wasn't there, just my mind and all my nerves laying in bed. I wasn't very emotional during the actual trip, mainly because I was so utterly amazed (english language can't explain how amazed I was) at what I was experiencing. I knew I was coming down because the sounds were getting softer and the visions were slowing down. it felt like a rollar coaster ride, you're kinda scared at first, then you take off and get pulled up the first big hill by the chain, and then BAM you get to the top and drop to rock bottom in less than 2 seconds, have the most intense ride of your life and then its all over just like that, that's how it felt. once the sound was gone the visuals got back to baseline while my eyes were closed. then I opened them and got the BIGGEST gasp of air in my life, it felt like I drowned and got some CPR and came back to life, that first breath was the most amazing thing ever. I have asthma and can't breath very well, but this breath was unlike any breath I've ever taken, like being reborn again. I looked at the clock and it was only 12.49, only 4 mintues!!!! the visuals with eyes opened then was like a 5+ gram shroom trip, very vivid colors and lights and INTENSE kaleidescopic vision. I sat up, jaw literaly dropped to the floor and fell down about a mile into the ground. I was amazed, then the emotions hit me hard. I had the biggest smile, and wanted to jump up and scream at the top of my lungs (couldn't though everyone was asleep) so I held it in, I felt happier than I ever have in my life. me and my gf have been having bad problems the past 2 months and I've been very sad, but this was a relief, I felt soo happy and I still have a smile on my face. I was so happy that I started crying because I felt that everything was solved and I can start over with my life in a new direction, I knew what I wanted in life and how to get it and keep it. this dmt is going to fix our relationship completely. that's the general idea of the trip, obviously I can't go into detail and explain what really happened because I'm having such a hard time picking out words to describe the experience, but you get the idea.
about an hour passed, I layed in bed that long trying to figure out what just happened to me. I wanted to light the bowl to make sure I got it all, so I held the lighter on the screen and sucked the flame in, lit for about 10 seconds until the bowl got too hot to hold, and then BAM!!!! I was thrown back into dmt hyperspace, it wasn't as intense as the first, but it sure was pretty fucking intense. I thought I brokethrough the first time because of what I experienced, but I hit the pipe about 10 more times and had an intense trip each time.
so the question is, did I breakthrough? now I don't think I did because I got about 10-15 trips out of it, from the reports I've read everyone breaksthrough on about 5-6mg and has nothing left afterwards in the pipe. I can't even imagine the effects and emotions ill get if that wasn't a breakthrough, but I feel like there's so much more. I read before that a good way to smoke it is put the crystals on top of some ash and smoke it so it doesn't fall through the filter, it will just melt onto the ash and you can smoke it all at once, so obviously I didn't breakthrough if I got about 10 very intense trips right?
sorry for all the rambling I'm still amazed right now. if you've read this whole post, thanks!!!
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7355572 - 08/31/07 10:04 AM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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not a breakthrough
don't begin inhaling until all the dmt has liquefied (or smoke starts to build without you inhaling), then pull and keep pulling as hard/long as you can. I try not to quit pulling until I am beginning to go into 'hyperspace' and can't feel my body anymore
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: demius]
#7355706 - 08/31/07 10:40 AM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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okay good, I really can't even image how intense it's going to be to breakthrough. I'll try again tonight 
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7355742 - 08/31/07 10:51 AM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Damn, I want some DMT 
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7355773 - 08/31/07 10:59 AM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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You should get a freebase pipe, you just heat the bowl were the dmt crystals are in they melt and start vaporizing, nothing goes through the screen cuz there is no screen.
When i loaded 60mg i could easily keep taking hits until i was so out there that i couldn't.
I strongly suggest a freebase pipe instead of regular one.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Infested]
#7355827 - 08/31/07 11:19 AM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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if I go to a smoke shop to get a freebase pipe, what do I ask the clerk? is it an oiler? i've never used one before I really don't know what I'm looking for.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7355859 - 08/31/07 11:27 AM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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I saw crack pipes for sale as "incense vaporizers"
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Gastronomicus]
#7355885 - 08/31/07 11:33 AM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't know i just went to store were they sell all drug related items. And i found it in the counter and asked for it.
Try literally asking for meth or crack pipe 
Its a glass tube on the end of it attached a glass ball that has a small hole in it.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Infested]
#7355953 - 08/31/07 11:52 AM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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haha yea i was wondering what would happen if i walked in asking for a crack pipe
i'll check out a couple stores this weekend.
you'll have to teach me how to use it, I've read a lot of people trying it for the first time and not really having any luck
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7355982 - 08/31/07 12:00 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think you put the spice in the bowl and hold the lighter below the bowl to get it to vaporize and then inhale all the smoke, but then again, I don't smoke a lot of crack 
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Gastronomicus]
#7356046 - 08/31/07 12:27 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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yea, that wasn't a breakthrough.
Just make a quick freebase pipe out of a light bulb, works better then a tiny little vape pipe from the head shop. The large bulb holds more smoke, and it's easier to use i think. You just have to put the flame beneath the glass (not actually touching it) and the spice will melt and start to smoke, then you start adding some airflow.
You only took one hit...you should have kept hitting it until you couldn't focus on the task at hand any longer, lol. 3..4..keep going until it's all gone.
The trip you described was much like my first trip. You just seen the "veil" when you breakthrough, you smash through the 3d geometrics into hyperspace.
Keep trying, when you breakthrough, you will know it!
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7356050 - 08/31/07 12:28 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Divinatory said:
haha yea i was wondering what would happen if i walked in asking for a crack pipe
i'll check out a couple stores this weekend.
you'll have to teach me how to use it, I've read a lot of people trying it for the first time and not really having any luck
hold lighter away but near the bottom of the bowl/piece, dmt liquefies, you inhale
i think the concept of vaporizing a substance is so difficult for many is because they are using to smoking substances (almost always people directly light the substance, but even with bud it's best to take time when hitting a bowl and not touch the flame to green)
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: demius]
#7356068 - 08/31/07 12:33 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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is there a carb you have to cover?
and would a torch lighter be better or just a regular big?
you're right about taking your time, it bothers me when I see people sparking up the entire bowl of some good bud.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7356110 - 08/31/07 12:48 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Divinatory said:
is there a carb you have to cover?
and would a torch lighter be better or just a regular big?
you're right about taking your time, it bothers me when I see people sparking up the entire bowl of some good bud.
no carb. glass get's hot, you dont want your hands down there, lol.
I've got some of these pipes here..but they don't work as great as a lightbulb does. You can gut a lightbulb in a matter of minutes and it makes a great freebase pipe.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: enesi]
#7356392 - 08/31/07 02:29 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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how do you make one with a lightbulb?
i'll just use that for tonight
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7356638 - 08/31/07 03:52 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Divinatory said:
how do you make one with a lightbulb?
i'll just use that for tonight
just have to rip the end off, and take out all the guts. if it has the white stuff inside of it, use salt to rinse it out.
http://www.teamdroid.com/diy-hollow-out-a-light-bulb/
Then use an inkpen tube as a tutor to smoke with.
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