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 Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: Divinatory]
#7320189 - 08/21/07 10:45 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Take pics of how it looks and give us details about how it smokes when you are done.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: fapjack]
#7320309 - 08/21/07 11:34 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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will do! 
it'll be a few days before I can get around to it but ill be updating soon.
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DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7324323 - 08/23/07 12:37 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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here’s a rundown of how I went about extracting:
I used 1 pound of mimosa hostilis inner root bark powder:
I then did a de-fat by putting about a 1/2 pound of powder in a quart mason jar and added some naphtha and let sit for awhile so the particles would sink:
then filtered:
I combined all the fat containing naphtha and this is how it turned out:
then on to the basification... I put 3000 ml of water in a gallon glass jar, added a total of 20 tablespoons of NaOH crystals(lye), adding only 2 tablespoons each so the water won‘t boil over. after all was added the temp of the water rose to 140F. I let it sit for 30 minutes to cool down to 110F:
this is what I used for the lye:
added in the root bark powder and stirred for 10 minutes:
then the naphtha extraction.. I mixed about 200ml of room temperature naphtha to the basified root bark mix, stirred for 30 minutes at a slow speed and then let sit for 5 minutes for the 2 layers to settle:
I then used a turkey baster to suck up the top layer and squirted it into a quart mason jar:
I repeated the naphtha extraction and separation 3 times to be sure I got all the DMT out.
I then supersaturated the liquid by evaporating down to 10% of the original volume, my original volume was about 600 ml, so I evaporated it down to 60 ml:
onto freeze precipitation... I put a piece of saran wrap over the pyrex measuring cup, and put the cup in a big ziplock baggie and put it in the freezer over night. next morning I filtered the naphtha and crystals into another mason jar within 1 minute so the crystals didn’t have time to redissolve. I let all the crystals dry out, came out to this:
I repeated the freeze precip with the filtered naphtha but no more crystals came out.
this is where it fucked up somehow... I did an ammonia wash to remove any remaining lye that might be in the crystals. I mixed 50 ml of distilled water and 50 ml of clear non-soapy ammonia and put it in the freezer for 30 minutes. I put the crystals on a coffee filter over a jar, spread out even and thin, and pour just a little of the cold ammonia over them. the directions I followed said the liquid will pass right through cleaning out the crystals, HOWEVER... it just pooled up on the filter paper as I kept pouring very slowly, so I stopped. I let it dry out and it turned into a hard goo, crushed it back into a powder and turned out like this:
I lost .7grams during this process 
that’s everything so far, and this is what I did about 30 minutes ago...
I put the crystals in 1 jar, and about 150ml of naphtha in another, put them in a pot with water, got the water up to about 120F and started adding the hot naphtha to the crystals using an eyedropper. I added around 85-90ml of naphtha to the crystals. here’s what it looks like currently:
I’m following the link that enesi gave me for recrystalization, so for now I’ll let this sit in a dark place for a couple days to build crystals. I’ll update as soon as something happens. thanks for all the help guys!
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7326641 - 08/23/07 04:23 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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no crystals yet, but this has settled to the bottom:
what is it?
I'm guessing lye?
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: Divinatory]
#7326702 - 08/23/07 04:43 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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well at least you got spice with the A\B method. I tried it with chaliponga before and also Viridis and wound up with notta.
the new method is awesome
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: cpw1971]
#7326883 - 08/23/07 05:47 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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hey bro, when you dissolved your spice into the hot solvent, you should have seen all that shit settle out right away, and then drawn off the clear layer.
Keep going, but you may be repeating the recrystallizing again depending what you end up with.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: enesi]
#7327234 - 08/23/07 07:01 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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it was all one color when I mixed them together, all that stuff settled out over night. I'm thinking about just doing a few more freeze precips until its all out.
what would you do?
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7327241 - 08/23/07 07:01 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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You sure your gonna be able to scrape crystals off the top of that? It usually only takes a few hours for the crystals to stick to the top, how long has it been in the freezer?
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: fapjack]
#7327290 - 08/23/07 07:07 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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I really don't know what this stuff is, there are no crystals, but when I tip the jar the dark stuff kinda oozes along the bottom. it seems like there's more of it now. and it wasn't in the freezer, the tek that enesi gave me said to mix with the hot naphtha and leave in room temp to build big clear crystals, but I don't see this happening.
do you think maybe I should just pour off the liquid and freeze precip that overnight and see what I get? I don't know if this brown sludge is some dmt or something else.. but there's definately no crystals in the jar.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7327605 - 08/23/07 08:15 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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that brown crap in the bottom is impurities that didnt' dissolve in the naptha.
What you should have done, is taken your freeze preciped crystals, dissolved into a tiny amount of hot naptha, pour off the top clear layer (leave behind that gunk) and filter through a cotton ball filter into a clean glass container (shot glass?) the let sit covered tightly at room temp to allow your crystals to grow.
From that pic, it looks like you dissolved it, and then stopped right there. all your gunk is still there.
Here's how it should look when growing
http://images26.fotki.com/v890/photos/1/186035/686768/IMG_0772-vi.jpg
http://images26.fotki.com/v889/photos/1/186035/686768/IMG_0782-vi.jpg
I'm not real sure what to tell you to do next. You could try to freeze it and get your spice back out of it, then start over with the recrystal
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: enesi]
#7327931 - 08/23/07 09:27 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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would there be any dmt mixed in those impurities?
you're right I did dissolve and just stop there, I dropped 1 ml of hot naphtha onto the crystals at a time until it was all dissolved, but there was no clear layer it all looked exactly like no pulp orange juice. I covered it tightly right when it all dissolved, let it sit overnight at room temp and then that brown stuff fell out. along with the brown is a waxy/fat looking layer at the bottom, its kinda translucent white, but not a lot of it, its not crystals though for sure.
so since I don't need the brown stuff at the bottom, I can just pour off all the liquid, freeze precip that, filter the crystals, let dry and dissolve in a tiny amount (how much do you mean by tiny?) of hot naphtha. now when I filter through a cotton ball will any dmt get left behind or will it all stay in the naphtha?
or
should I heat up what I have already so any crystals I might have dissolve, filter that so maybe I can get some impurities out, and then freeze precip and so on..?
sorry for all the questions, you're a big help
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7327965 - 08/23/07 09:34 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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yea, i would just heat that back up...pour out everything but the gunk and then let it grow at room temp.
If you filter through a cotton ball, you won't lose much, you can squeeze the cotton ball of all it's extra juice.
If you can get the solvent from the gunk with no problems, you wont' need to filter. I just do it as a safety thing, in case any of that stuff comes out.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7327995 - 08/23/07 09:44 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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alright, do you think it would be better to pour off and then freeze precip first so maybe I can get some cleaner crystals and then dissolve and grow at room temp? right now the liquid is reeeally light orange/yellow, you can't see through it.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7328275 - 08/23/07 10:57 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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You did it wrong, that is how you grow crystals from already washed spice. Heat it up again, until everything disolves, then put in the freezer. Just putting it in the fridge will probably work as well, but I'm sure a lot of the DMT already went to the bottom and mixed with the slag (impurities).
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: fapjack]
#7328289 - 08/23/07 11:04 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Actually that tek might work, but everyone that posted there either already washed it with naptha and/or ammonia. It might work out fine, up to you.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: fapjack]
#7328370 - 08/23/07 11:36 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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I think freeze precip. would work better to start with because you're right everyone that did that tek aslready had pretty clean crystals. if I don't lose much dmt from the freeze precip I might just do that a couple times and then grow them in room temp, mine are really dirty it might need that.
I won't be able to do anything for a couple more days so any more suggestions are greatly welcomed from anyone.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: fapjack]
#7328385 - 08/23/07 11:42 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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I think freeze precip. would work better to start with because you're right everyone that did that tek aslready had pretty clean crystals. if I don't lose much dmt from the freeze precip I might just do that a couple times and then grow them in room temp, mine are really dirty it might need that.
I won't be able to do anything for a couple more days so any more suggestions are greatly welcomed from anyone.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: fapjack]
#7328717 - 08/24/07 04:18 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Quote:
fapjack said:
You did it wrong, that is how you grow crystals from already washed spice. Heat it up again, until everything disolves, then put in the freezer. Just putting it in the fridge will probably work as well, but I'm sure a lot of the DMT already went to the bottom and mixed with the slag (impurities).
If you are recrystallizing, You can skip the ammonia wash all together.
He screwed up when he did not separate his gunk out.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: enesi]
#7338368 - 08/26/07 10:21 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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I just filtered the liquid through a cotton ball 2 times, it came out much cleaner:
i'll freeze precip this tonight.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7342331 - 08/27/07 08:43 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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any update on the piss water shown above? lol
I'm currently working on pulling some red spice from some used up base solution. Been reading some interesting things about it, going to find out what it's all about
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