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Re: Why do you Americans smoke weed on it's own? [Re: Crystal G]
    #7324653 - 08/23/07 07:07 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

everyone i know likes thier weed broken up, or grinded if they have a grinder.


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Re: Why do you Americans smoke weed on it's own? [Re: Crystal G]
    #7324661 - 08/23/07 07:10 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I hate when people don't grind up their weed, trying to get a good hit out of that smoldering nug...

Much better to grind it and loosely drop it into the bowl for maximum airflow/hits. :stoned:

I never got why Europeans mix the weed with tobacco though, I just don't feel right holding in a hit mixed with tobacco for as long as I do with pure weed.


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Re: Why do you Americans smoke weed on it's own? [Re: Wysefool]
    #7324666 - 08/23/07 07:13 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

holy crap i havnt seen weed like that for feckin ages, please tell me thats not purple haze!!! i have been trying to find it for feckin ages, its the only weed i will ever buy!!!


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Re: Why do you Americans smoke weed on it's own? [Re: Nibin]
    #7324709 - 08/23/07 07:41 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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Because tobacco is gross?



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Re: Why do you Americans smoke weed on it's own? [Re: Wysefool] * 1
    #7324720 - 08/23/07 07:47 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

1. Weed taste better solo (at least in my opinion)

2. You hold it in right? Well fuck holding tobacco in for the usual length of weed.

3. Not everyone that smokes pot smokes tobacco. I've been a pretty heavy smoker for a long time, but I just can't bring myself to even become a little interested in cigs (or other forms,) let alone mix it with the herb of the gods. I typically consider tobacco to be a waste of time, health, and money, but thats just me (maybe the short-lasting, light buzz just doesn't justify the shit for me.)

4. If you're hooked up you can just roll fattys full of weed instead of packing it full of nastyness. Weed > tobacco in any case (at least for me.)

5. Since when is tobacco needed to get stoned? Again, if tobacco isn't your thing then wheres the necessity?

6. Pure weed joints that are rolled correctly burn pretty slow IME.

7. Not everyone smokes j's or blunts, lots of people smoke with glass, and lots of people smoke with not so nice metal pieces. So smoking bowls practically eliminates the tobacco idea.

8. I don't care if I smell like weed, but fuck tobacco stinks like dick. Yeah, I know smelling like pot isn't the nicest thing in the world, but it beats smelling like tobacco.

9. Like wiccan said the high is not as dull without the tobacco.

10. I like a nice smooth hit of weed, and I don't need any tobacco getting in my way or to help me not cough.

My theory is that some loopy bastard over there, who enjoyed adding tobacco to his spliffs, accidentally started some kind of horrible trend among the youth. Where people began to actually believe it was some kind of miraculous way to smoke the good shit.

Something else to think about is, depending on the roller, your spliffs may burn slower with tobacco, but that doesn't change the fact that it's only burning slower because you're smoking tobacco at the same time. The weed itself burns the same rate either way. Roll 1 joint with weed and tobacco, and roll another with just the same amount of weed and no tobacco. Joint without tobacco may burn "faster"(not really but thats what they say) , but you're still inhaling the same amount of weed, and NOT smoking some fucking tobacco. Properly rolled pure joints won't sit there and burn away fast.
So good rolled pure joints = FTW.

Don't get me wrong.. if you enjoy tobacco with your weed go right ahead. :thumbup:

I'm just not seeing the logic behind it though. :nonono:

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Re: Why do you Americans smoke weed on it's own? [Re: Wysefool]
    #7324749 - 08/23/07 08:04 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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Wysefool said:
I hate when people don't grind up their weed, trying to get a good hit out of that smoldering nug...

Much better to grind it and loosely drop it into the bowl for maximum airflow/hits. :stoned:

I never got why Europeans mix the weed with tobacco though, I just don't feel right holding in a hit mixed with tobacco for as long as I do with pure weed.




Maybe i've just read this wrong, but do people actually stick entire nugs into a bowl and try to light it like that? That's just fucking stupid.  I've never seen anybody stick an unbroken nug into a bowl and smoke it like that.  Or, rather, attempt to.

I roll pure bud joints or 80/20 weed/tobacco when i'm with friends.  When i'm by myself, I usually don't see the need to roll an entire pure bud joint to myself, so I tobacco it up.  In groups though, not everyone likes the tobacco, plus, more people smoking means I need more room for bud.

I personally don't find the tobacco to ruin the weed taste, unless there's way too much in there. Blunts ruin the taste of bud more than spliffs do, IME.

I'm a proud american citizen and I roll with tobacco.

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Re: Why do you Americans smoke weed on it's own? [Re: Nibin]
    #7324754 - 08/23/07 08:09 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I don't smoke my joints with tobacco because I don't like nicotine.


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Re: Why do you Americans smoke weed on it's own? [Re: Nibin]
    #7324766 - 08/23/07 08:18 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I like the taste of weed. Good weed. I would not waste my lungs on bunk. I smoke joints but only half or less when by myself.Bongs tend to make me cough a lot. Even on very small hits.


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Re: Why do you Americans smoke weed on it's own? [Re: Nibin]
    #7324765 - 08/23/07 08:18 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

My brother is ALL into mixing tobacco and weed; Says it gives him a "better high" He is also a non-cig smoker, and only smokes tobacco when it is mixed with weed. I personally don't like because I tried it. To me, both effects are dulled, so it is a waste.


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Re: Why do you Americans smoke weed on it's own? [Re: Nibin]
    #7324773 - 08/23/07 08:23 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

For the record I LOOOOOVE smoking joints. someone one here said "who the hell smokes joints anyway" it's my favorite way. and I do actually prefer a spliff to an all weed joint. depending on the situation. i personally like mixing good weed with tobacco cuase it mellows the high for me. this way i'm not forced to smoking a whole marijuana ciggarette of good nugs. I like smoking joints cause i like making my smoking experience longer as opposed to taking a few quick rips off a bowl. Blunts are nice every now and then but i find that to be a waste of weed too at least when smoked between to people.

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Re: Why do you Americans smoke weed on it's own? [Re: Asante]
    #7324789 - 08/23/07 08:39 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

Wiccan_Seeker said:
If you combine cannabis with tobacco you tend to get more stoned (dull) than you get high.

Also, people who don't smoke tobacco except in joints tend to light up one after the other because of nicotine addiction.

If you smoke pure weed, you smoke to get high on THC.

What amazes me is the sheer amounts of weed many Americans smoke in a single sitting. Americans tend to smoke huge amounts to get as high as they can possibly get, whereas Dutch people are more into the "smoke a bit.. smoke a bit more" approach. This American approach seems like chugging the whole bottle instead of having a few wines.

A good thing about Americans is that they're more into pure/pipes whereas the Dutch tend towards joints laced with tobacco.




Not me. The actual smoke and the act of smoking give me just as much pleasure as the THC itself. I would smoke it just for the good taste and smell regardless if it gives me a buzz. But it's my experience that by smoking out of glassware, I use a substantially less amount of weed. I usually smoke .1-.2g per sitting. I also see nothing wrong with smoking a larger amount of weed considering it's better to do that than smoke shitty cancer causing tobacco. I enjoy a long smoke without the use of tobacco...it rarely has to do with getting more fucked up. A lot of time I satisfied with my buzz after 2-3 hits but will smoke more simply because it's something I enjoy.

I love it how all europians steriotype americans....and I would say there is no different from pointing out "trends" and steriotyping. :smirk:

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Re: Why do you Americans smoke weed on it's own? [Re: daytripper05]
    #7324802 - 08/23/07 08:48 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Personally I go for the tobacco/weed mix when it's bongs and straight weed when it's joints.

Bongs are where it's at!


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Re: Why do you Americans smoke weed on it's own? [Re: daytripper05]
    #7324805 - 08/23/07 08:49 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I don't smoke tobacco, and sure as hell wouldn't want it touching my weed.

I bought a nice space case grinder years ago, grinding and smoking is the ONLY way to go. I also try to clean out my pipe as much as possible...

People go buy pipes and they like the fact that they change color after the inside of the pipe gets caked with resin. Thats gross! Smoking quality pot in a dirty pipe destroys the flavor!!:(

I also pack small amounts at a time... If you have good shit and it is ground/packed properly all you need is one hit and your good to go.

I live in the USA...


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Re: Why do you Americans smoke weed on it's own? [Re: m.v2]
    #7324810 - 08/23/07 08:52 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

now THAT's some twisted shit.

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Re: Why do you Americans smoke weed on it's own? [Re: daytripper05]
    #7324832 - 08/23/07 08:58 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

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I love it how all europians steriotype americans....





That is a stereotype, because you're saying "all Europeans" thereby generalizing.

What I did is point out trends I see among populations. Thats a different thing. I also pointed out trends I see among the Dutch.


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and I would say there is no different from pointing out "trends" and steriotyping.





In the Deep South of America you will hear more country music than in the Deep South of Africa. Is that stereotyping? I hope not. Regional differences exist, no matter how badly you want everyone to be the same. Celebrate diversity, don't sweep it under the rug.


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Re: Why do you Americans smoke weed on it's own? [Re: Nibin]
    #7324834 - 08/23/07 08:59 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Not all of my friends smoke or enjoy tobacco so I stick to rolling weed only. I'm a cigarette smoker so it's not a big deal, my best friend's sister is pretty much the only person I smoke with that rolls with tobacco and I don't mind. I guess it's just that fact that weed only J's is the way I started rolling, so why stop now?

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Re: Why do you Americans smoke weed on it's own? [Re: Nibin]
    #7324954 - 08/23/07 09:33 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I've rolled plenty of spliffs in my day but I prefer my cannabis unadulterated. Makes it difficult to smoke a joint by myself because the stuff I smoke is very potent. So I usually smoke out of a glass bowl.

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Re: Why do you Americans smoke weed on it's own? [Re: Nibin]
    #7324968 - 08/23/07 09:37 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

cause tobacco sucks. fin


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Re: Why do you Americans smoke weed on it's own? [Re: Nibin]
    #7324972 - 08/23/07 09:38 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I have a few FOAFs that pack tobacco in their bong with the weed! :puke:


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Re: Why do you Americans smoke weed on it's own? [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7325111 - 08/23/07 10:13 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Hmmm post seems successful.

The way I see it (and I will be generalizing due to what I have experienced personally, obviously there are exceptions)

Americans attitude to drink (beerbongs, frat parties, etc) is also applied to smoking weed. You want to get really drunk really fast, and you want to get stoned really strong really fast.

European attitude to drinking is a lot more social. Obviously we get very drunk sometimes, but most of us enjoy sipping a glass of wine with a meal or drinking a beer with our friends down at the local bar. The same applies to weed. We seem to have a more relaxed attitude to weed and probably this is why we mix it with tobacco, to mellow out the effects and be able to enjoy the PROCESS of getting stoned.

I'm not judging or saying one method is better than the other, I'm just trying to state facts

Also, in Europe we smoke a lot more hash that in the States and generally better stuff too, and hash is mixed with tobacco. So maybe that has something to do with it.

Oh and I have smoked good and bad weed alone and mixed and I do have to say that unless the tobacco is overpowering, the mix can taste really nice.


A small note for those who say "tabacco causes cancer so I don't mix"

Any kind of smoke entering the lungs can cause cancer, be it tobacco or weed. It isn't the fact that it is tobacco that causes cancer it's the fact that you are breathing the smoke of 30 little burning sticks a day that is causing the cancer.

Okay, by mixing weed with tobacco you will end up breathing more smoke than if you only smoked the same amount of weed alone, that is true, but it isn't the tobacco part alone of the spliff that is causing the cancer.


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