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 DMT extraction pictoral **1.5g crystals + trip report**
#7316029 - 08/20/07 09:51 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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after freeze-precipitation I ended up with 3.12 grams of impure DMT:
I used a different tek to extract, but I followed the marsofold directions exactly for the step to pour ammonia over the crystals to clean it, it ended up turning into a goo, it didn't wash it at all so I stopped the process and let it dry out. here's what it looks like now.. it's darker and I lost .70 grams:
I know of all the various ways to purify and clean, but can you give me suggestions as to which is the best way? I don't want to follow directions again and end up with a fucked up product.
DON'T REPLY UNLESS YOU HAVE FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE!!!
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: Divinatory]
#7316042 - 08/20/07 09:55 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Did you use powder by chance? Also, did you heat it? I used powder and ended up with something that looks pretty similar, after washing it though you will get white crystals. For cleaning, I always used naptha. Also, A/B extraction for DMT is a waste of time, next time go straight to base. Read up on the different teks @ http://www.dmt-nexus.com/
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: fapjack]
#7316051 - 08/20/07 09:58 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah, just clean it up with some naptha.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: Divinatory]
#7316052 - 08/20/07 09:58 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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hmm interesting.
this is what i would do, i highly reccomend you follow it.
re-dissolve everything into naptha. use a solution of water at pH3 and was the naptha with the water. separate the water and the naptha, and you could maybe freeze precip or evaporate this naptha, but it is mostly fats now. then basify this water to pH 12-13 and do a couple of pulls with naptha. evaporate this naptha or freeze precip and i gaurtantee pure white crystals.
i have done this with acacia bark, because acacia is very very fatty, and it is awesome at cleaning the fats.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: fapjack]
#7316059 - 08/20/07 10:00 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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no I didn't use powder, I used the liquid. I had the crystals in a coffee filter and poured the ammonia liquid over the crystals, they ammonia was supposed to go straight through the crystals pulling out a lot of the oils and gunk, however it just pooled up, none went through and I did it VERY slowly. there was no heat.
I didn't do an A/B extraction, to sum it up I did a few defats with the bark powder, added naphtha and add the mix to the basified solution, let the layers separate and sucked out the naptha/dmt, let it supersaturate then freeze precip. then washed with ammonia.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: Divinatory]
#7316070 - 08/20/07 10:02 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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was the ammonia ice-cold? if it wasnt ice-cold this explains your problem
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: retrospect]
#7316075 - 08/20/07 10:03 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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MH doesn't really need an A/B extraction. It doesn't look that bad, all he really needs to do is wash it with naptha. My DMT was yellow, I did a wash and it came out white.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: retrospect]
#7316077 - 08/20/07 10:03 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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yes the ammonia was chilled to about 35-40 degrees F
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: Divinatory]
#7316083 - 08/20/07 10:04 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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So you are saying that none of the ammonia went thru the filter, or it did, but the dmt gooed up?
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: fapjack]
#7316102 - 08/20/07 10:09 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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i spread the crystals out thinly over the filter so the liquid could go through easier, i poured just a little and nothing went through, poured some more and it just kept pooling up in the filter, i squeezed it a little to get the excess ammonia out and i guess that's where i lost the .7
fapjack can you give me the steps that YOU did to wash with naphtha?
everybody: which would be better, retrospect or fapjack's method?
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: Divinatory]
#7316113 - 08/20/07 10:12 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't know why the ammonia didn't go through the filter, but you really need to repeat that step.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: Divinatory]
#7316115 - 08/20/07 10:13 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Did you have the filter over a funnel, or inside a cup?
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: fapjack]
#7316128 - 08/20/07 10:15 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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over a funnel, just like the directions told me.
i'm not using ammonia again though, i'll freeze-precip over and over before I ever use ammonia again.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: Divinatory]
#7316142 - 08/20/07 10:20 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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i thought ammonia cleaned naoh, not fats.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: Divinatory]
#7316147 - 08/20/07 10:21 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well you could do that, but you will lose more product. Instead of using a funnel, do a run over a glass with no DMT in it, thats how I did it at least. That way it doesn't clog.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: Divinatory]
#7316148 - 08/20/07 10:22 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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ok some people may not agree with me when i say this but, i dont mind yellow dmy. in my opinion it doesent need to be more pure. try smokeing it it just takes alittle more and smokes alittle different. i guess one reason i say this is because i never really end up with a product that dirty. its normaly pretty clear when i get my spice.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: retrospect]
#7316150 - 08/20/07 10:22 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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It does, which is why he should redo it. Washing it like 4 times with different naptha each time will work, but will also yield much less than if he redoes the ammonia wash.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: ApacheShaman]
#7316152 - 08/20/07 10:23 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Theres NAOH in it, smoking it will be really harsh and it might actually be dangerous.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: fapjack]
#7316158 - 08/20/07 10:26 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah like i said ive never even seen dmt that dirty.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: fapjack]
#7316172 - 08/20/07 10:32 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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okay so I guess the question is what can I do, instead of washing with ammonia, to get a clean white product without losing much crystal?
I just don't wanna wash with ammonia again because I only ran it over for at least 4 seconds and I lost almost a gram.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: Divinatory]
#7316175 - 08/20/07 10:33 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Divinatory said:
okay so I guess the question is what can I do, instead of washing with ammonia, to get a clean white product without losing much crystal?
I just don't wanna wash with ammonia again because I only ran it over for at least 4 seconds and I lost almost a gram.
etiher recrystallise with naptha or do what i said with the water.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: Divinatory]
#7316176 - 08/20/07 10:34 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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i think the only other thing to do is re freeze it a few times.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: ApacheShaman]
#7316186 - 08/20/07 10:41 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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retrospect: can you revise this sentence..
"re-dissolve everything into naptha. use a solution of water at pH3 and was the naptha with the water"
do you mean ph13.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: Divinatory]
#7316187 - 08/20/07 10:41 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Whatever came out with the ammonia probably wasn't DMT. You can mix a really small amount with heated naptha, put in freezer for a few hours, scrap white crystals off the top of glass and repeat over and over again with the same naptha, you will get a decent amount of white DMT this way, then evaporate the remander when you stop getting any white crystals and clean with ammonia at this point. I never did it this way though, I always used fresh naptha, but it should work just the same.
From Noman's tek http://www.dmt-nexus.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=460&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=
"Place a glass container with the DMT and a glass container of the
recrystallization solvent together in a pan of hot water. Shot glasses
in a saucepan work well for a gram or two. The fumes from whatever
solvent you use will be extremely flammable, so don't use a gas stove
or light a bowl or be otherwise stupid. The DMT will already be
melting if the water is hot enough. Add the hot solvent little by
little (eye-dropper), agitating until all of the DMT is dissolved. Use
as little solvent as possible. It should take only about 20-30ml of
solvent per gram of powder. The solvent will be a clear yellow.
Leave the pan of water with the DMT container to cool to room
temperature. Remove the DMT container and cool in the refrigerator,
then the freezer. You will end up with DMT crystals of varying purity
atop a pellet of slag which still contains quite a bit of DMT but also
lye if you skipped the ammonia wash. Filter the solvent and separate
the crystals from the slag. The crystals can be refined in one or two
more recrystallizations into pure clear DMT if desired. The slag can
also be further refined or simply redissolved into the next batch. The
solvent can be reused or evaporated down and the residue scraped and
cleaned. And don't forget to scrub those jars and utensils with your
favorite smoking herb!"
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: fapjack]
#7316231 - 08/20/07 10:58 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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thanks fapjack!
did you lose any noticeable amount of crystals by doing this?
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: Divinatory]
#7316239 - 08/20/07 11:02 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Divinatory said:
retrospect: can you revise this sentence..
"re-dissolve everything into naptha. use a solution of water at pH3 and was the naptha with the water"
do you mean ph13.
no i mean ph3.
have a read through this: http://rapidshare.com/files/40880324/LexTek_v0.1.pdf.html
go straight to STEP 5 and it will go into detail on the water wash and how to do it. it works great and is used for acacia which is HEEEAAAPS fattier than MHRB
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: retrospect]
#7316252 - 08/20/07 11:09 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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so you think the water wash would work better than the norman's tek that fapjack posted?
what does everyone else think?
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: Divinatory]
#7316263 - 08/20/07 11:15 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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noman is very experienced with extracting mhrb so id follow his directions. the tek i posted was designed to acacia which is real fatty, and since your dmt looks pretty damn dirty i thought itd suit. anyways, noman KNOWS what hes talking about when it comes to MHRB.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: retrospect]
#7317395 - 08/21/07 09:45 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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alright thanks, I think i'll try the norman tek and see how it turns out. I'll post my progress.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: Divinatory]
#7317909 - 08/21/07 12:26 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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all you need to do is recrystallize all your spice. it's very simple. you will have large clear crystals when you're done.
Follow this tek, I had the same ammonia troubles you did and it cleaned up just fine.
http://www.dmt-nexus.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=812
The basic idea, is to dissolve all that spice into a SMALL AMOUNT of hot naptha, the impurities won't dissolve. seperate those out. Then cover and let sit at room temp, your crystals will grow huge.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: enesi]
#7318267 - 08/21/07 02:07 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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ahh thanks for the link!
its good to know someone else had the same problem and easily fixed it 
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: enesi]
#7318768 - 08/21/07 04:33 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
enesi said:
all you need to do is recrystallize all your spice. it's very simple. you will have large clear crystals when you're done.
Follow this tek, I had the same ammonia troubles you did and it cleaned up just fine.
http://www.dmt-nexus.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=812
The basic idea, is to dissolve all that spice into a SMALL AMOUNT of hot naptha, the impurities won't dissolve. seperate those out. Then cover and let sit at room temp, your crystals will grow huge.
With love, and patience, you'll be clean as ice 
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: Divinatory]
#7319090 - 08/21/07 06:16 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
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ahh thanks for the link!
its good to know someone else had the same problem and easily fixed it
yes, i washed with ammonia before i knew about recrystallizing at all, and had the same results you did.
If you plan to recrystallize, doing the ammonia wash isn't necessary.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: enesi]
#7319123 - 08/21/07 06:23 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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yea, I just wanted to do the ammonia wash to besure and get out all the remaining lye to be on the safe side and then finish up with recrystalization. but who knows, maybe that .7g I lost was just a bunch of lye..
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: Divinatory]
#7319239 - 08/21/07 06:53 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Divinatory said:
yea, I just wanted to do the ammonia wash to besure and get out all the remaining lye to be on the safe side and then finish up with recrystalization. but who knows, maybe that .7g I lost was just a bunch of lye..
There shouldn't be any lye in you're spice to begin with. Lye is water soluble. And if you separated your layers properly to begin with, they should be lye free. (as long as your naptha pulls weren't polluted with brown bubbles)
Cold water will "wash" your crystals also.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: enesi]
#7319450 - 08/21/07 07:50 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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those pictures are beautiful, thank you for the link
I'd give it a shot, but I only have, at most, 100mg of clean white spice
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: enesi]
#7319544 - 08/21/07 08:07 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Are you sure that there is no lye mixed? Every tek I've ever seen said to clean it with ammonia to remove the lye. I also read that washing it with naptha a few times worked too, but why would you need to if theres no lye mixed?
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: fapjack]
#7319581 - 08/21/07 08:13 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
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Are you sure that there is no lye mixed? Every tek I've ever seen said to clean it with ammonia to remove the lye. I also read that washing it with naptha a few times worked too, but why would you need to if theres no lye mixed?
there should not be. lye is water soluble, so it wouldnt dissolve into the naptha.
The tek's i've read say to wash with ammonia, but never mention why, lol. Some say it's to remove any remaing hydroxides. Cold water does the trick also.
But again, if you are going to recrystallize, washing isn't needed anyway.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: enesi]
#7319610 - 08/21/07 08:20 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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I just read that it was insoluble in polar solvents, though I was wondering if some might remain in suspension. This is where I read it though, in Noman's Tek.
"10. Once the paste has dried THOROUGHLY (chop and stir it a couple of
times), crush any lumps up and combine it all into one coffee
filter. Now wash the lot by pouring freezer temperature NON-SUDSY
ammonia over it and through the coffee filter. This will remove
any remaining lye and some other impurities from the extract. If
you can get 10% ammonia ("janitorial strength") all the better.
Most important, though, is NON-SUDSY: shake the bottle, if it
suds, get a different bottle. It won't take much, 100ml or so for
a 200g batch, just make sure all the powder is thoroughly wetted,
stir it around while washing. A good bit of the mass will wash
away (25-45%) but it's nothing you want to be smoking
anyway. (Note: if you intend to recrystallize, you can omit the
ammonia wash). "
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: fapjack]
#7320170 - 08/21/07 10:39 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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yea from what I've read I was under the impression that there could be some remaining lye mixed in and the ammonia will get it all out.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: Divinatory]
#7320189 - 08/21/07 10:45 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Take pics of how it looks and give us details about how it smokes when you are done.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: fapjack]
#7320309 - 08/21/07 11:34 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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will do!
it'll be a few days before I can get around to it but ill be updating soon.
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DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7324323 - 08/23/07 12:37 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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here’s a rundown of how I went about extracting:
I used 1 pound of mimosa hostilis inner root bark powder:
I then did a de-fat by putting about a 1/2 pound of powder in a quart mason jar and added some naphtha and let sit for awhile so the particles would sink:
then filtered:
I combined all the fat containing naphtha and this is how it turned out:
then on to the basification... I put 3000 ml of water in a gallon glass jar, added a total of 20 tablespoons of NaOH crystals(lye), adding only 2 tablespoons each so the water won‘t boil over. after all was added the temp of the water rose to 140F. I let it sit for 30 minutes to cool down to 110F:
this is what I used for the lye:
added in the root bark powder and stirred for 10 minutes:
then the naphtha extraction.. I mixed about 200ml of room temperature naphtha to the basified root bark mix, stirred for 30 minutes at a slow speed and then let sit for 5 minutes for the 2 layers to settle:
I then used a turkey baster to suck up the top layer and squirted it into a quart mason jar:
I repeated the naphtha extraction and separation 3 times to be sure I got all the DMT out.
I then supersaturated the liquid by evaporating down to 10% of the original volume, my original volume was about 600 ml, so I evaporated it down to 60 ml:
onto freeze precipitation... I put a piece of saran wrap over the pyrex measuring cup, and put the cup in a big ziplock baggie and put it in the freezer over night. next morning I filtered the naphtha and crystals into another mason jar within 1 minute so the crystals didn’t have time to redissolve. I let all the crystals dry out, came out to this:
I repeated the freeze precip with the filtered naphtha but no more crystals came out.
this is where it fucked up somehow... I did an ammonia wash to remove any remaining lye that might be in the crystals. I mixed 50 ml of distilled water and 50 ml of clear non-soapy ammonia and put it in the freezer for 30 minutes. I put the crystals on a coffee filter over a jar, spread out even and thin, and pour just a little of the cold ammonia over them. the directions I followed said the liquid will pass right through cleaning out the crystals, HOWEVER... it just pooled up on the filter paper as I kept pouring very slowly, so I stopped. I let it dry out and it turned into a hard goo, crushed it back into a powder and turned out like this:
I lost .7grams during this process 
that’s everything so far, and this is what I did about 30 minutes ago...
I put the crystals in 1 jar, and about 150ml of naphtha in another, put them in a pot with water, got the water up to about 120F and started adding the hot naphtha to the crystals using an eyedropper. I added around 85-90ml of naphtha to the crystals. here’s what it looks like currently:
I’m following the link that enesi gave me for recrystalization, so for now I’ll let this sit in a dark place for a couple days to build crystals. I’ll update as soon as something happens. thanks for all the help guys!
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7326641 - 08/23/07 04:23 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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no crystals yet, but this has settled to the bottom:
what is it?
I'm guessing lye?
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: Divinatory]
#7326702 - 08/23/07 04:43 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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well at least you got spice with the A\B method. I tried it with chaliponga before and also Viridis and wound up with notta.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: cpw1971]
#7326883 - 08/23/07 05:47 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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hey bro, when you dissolved your spice into the hot solvent, you should have seen all that shit settle out right away, and then drawn off the clear layer.
Keep going, but you may be repeating the recrystallizing again depending what you end up with.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: enesi]
#7327234 - 08/23/07 07:01 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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it was all one color when I mixed them together, all that stuff settled out over night. I'm thinking about just doing a few more freeze precips until its all out.
what would you do?
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7327241 - 08/23/07 07:01 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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You sure your gonna be able to scrape crystals off the top of that? It usually only takes a few hours for the crystals to stick to the top, how long has it been in the freezer?
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: fapjack]
#7327290 - 08/23/07 07:07 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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I really don't know what this stuff is, there are no crystals, but when I tip the jar the dark stuff kinda oozes along the bottom. it seems like there's more of it now. and it wasn't in the freezer, the tek that enesi gave me said to mix with the hot naphtha and leave in room temp to build big clear crystals, but I don't see this happening.
do you think maybe I should just pour off the liquid and freeze precip that overnight and see what I get? I don't know if this brown sludge is some dmt or something else.. but there's definately no crystals in the jar.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7327605 - 08/23/07 08:15 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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that brown crap in the bottom is impurities that didnt' dissolve in the naptha.
What you should have done, is taken your freeze preciped crystals, dissolved into a tiny amount of hot naptha, pour off the top clear layer (leave behind that gunk) and filter through a cotton ball filter into a clean glass container (shot glass?) the let sit covered tightly at room temp to allow your crystals to grow.
From that pic, it looks like you dissolved it, and then stopped right there. all your gunk is still there.
Here's how it should look when growing
http://images26.fotki.com/v890/photos/1/186035/686768/IMG_0772-vi.jpg
http://images26.fotki.com/v889/photos/1/186035/686768/IMG_0782-vi.jpg
I'm not real sure what to tell you to do next. You could try to freeze it and get your spice back out of it, then start over with the recrystal
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: enesi]
#7327931 - 08/23/07 09:27 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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would there be any dmt mixed in those impurities?
you're right I did dissolve and just stop there, I dropped 1 ml of hot naphtha onto the crystals at a time until it was all dissolved, but there was no clear layer it all looked exactly like no pulp orange juice. I covered it tightly right when it all dissolved, let it sit overnight at room temp and then that brown stuff fell out. along with the brown is a waxy/fat looking layer at the bottom, its kinda translucent white, but not a lot of it, its not crystals though for sure.
so since I don't need the brown stuff at the bottom, I can just pour off all the liquid, freeze precip that, filter the crystals, let dry and dissolve in a tiny amount (how much do you mean by tiny?) of hot naphtha. now when I filter through a cotton ball will any dmt get left behind or will it all stay in the naphtha?
or
should I heat up what I have already so any crystals I might have dissolve, filter that so maybe I can get some impurities out, and then freeze precip and so on..?
sorry for all the questions, you're a big help
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7327965 - 08/23/07 09:34 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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yea, i would just heat that back up...pour out everything but the gunk and then let it grow at room temp.
If you filter through a cotton ball, you won't lose much, you can squeeze the cotton ball of all it's extra juice.
If you can get the solvent from the gunk with no problems, you wont' need to filter. I just do it as a safety thing, in case any of that stuff comes out.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7327995 - 08/23/07 09:44 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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alright, do you think it would be better to pour off and then freeze precip first so maybe I can get some cleaner crystals and then dissolve and grow at room temp? right now the liquid is reeeally light orange/yellow, you can't see through it.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7328275 - 08/23/07 10:57 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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You did it wrong, that is how you grow crystals from already washed spice. Heat it up again, until everything disolves, then put in the freezer. Just putting it in the fridge will probably work as well, but I'm sure a lot of the DMT already went to the bottom and mixed with the slag (impurities).
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: fapjack]
#7328289 - 08/23/07 11:04 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Actually that tek might work, but everyone that posted there either already washed it with naptha and/or ammonia. It might work out fine, up to you.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: fapjack]
#7328370 - 08/23/07 11:36 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think freeze precip. would work better to start with because you're right everyone that did that tek aslready had pretty clean crystals. if I don't lose much dmt from the freeze precip I might just do that a couple times and then grow them in room temp, mine are really dirty it might need that.
I won't be able to do anything for a couple more days so any more suggestions are greatly welcomed from anyone.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: fapjack]
#7328385 - 08/23/07 11:42 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think freeze precip. would work better to start with because you're right everyone that did that tek aslready had pretty clean crystals. if I don't lose much dmt from the freeze precip I might just do that a couple times and then grow them in room temp, mine are really dirty it might need that.
I won't be able to do anything for a couple more days so any more suggestions are greatly welcomed from anyone.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: fapjack]
#7328717 - 08/24/07 04:18 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
fapjack said:
You did it wrong, that is how you grow crystals from already washed spice. Heat it up again, until everything disolves, then put in the freezer. Just putting it in the fridge will probably work as well, but I'm sure a lot of the DMT already went to the bottom and mixed with the slag (impurities).
If you are recrystallizing, You can skip the ammonia wash all together.
He screwed up when he did not separate his gunk out.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: enesi]
#7338368 - 08/26/07 10:21 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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I just filtered the liquid through a cotton ball 2 times, it came out much cleaner:
i'll freeze precip this tonight.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7342331 - 08/27/07 08:43 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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any update on the piss water shown above? lol
I'm currently working on pulling some red spice from some used up base solution. Been reading some interesting things about it, going to find out what it's all about
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: enesi]
#7342517 - 08/27/07 09:35 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hmm I have Phallaris Arundacea but I don't see many of you guys reffering to using that. Is it such a low potency that it's not worth it? I have an almost unlimited amount (as in I could get pounds of leaves) does anyone know of a good TEK working for pahllaris? Most TEK's I've read have been non plant specific but you guys make it sound like some TEK's work for some plants and not others.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Acaterpillar]
#7343952 - 08/28/07 08:41 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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enesi: ill update with pics in the next couple days, I got A LOT cleaner crystals this time, however there were still some impurities that fell out and turned into a goo and had some crystals that dissolved with it, I heated that up along with the naphtha and am currently supersaturating it, ill freeze-precip that tonight to get the rest of the crystals out and will post pics when it dries.
rabidbaboon: you can definately do an extraction with phalaris, you can pretty much follow any tek that you want except you'll have to do a lot of initial de-fats, that's the reason people don't usualy use it is because there's soo much more fats than dmt which means a lot more time is invovled and a lot more material is used, its just way cheaper and more time consuming and better yield to use mimosa.
but if you have that much and don't mind all the defats, washes, and recrystallizing, then go for it.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7346798 - 08/28/07 10:52 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Will lemon juice (or powdered lemon extract) be acidic enough for seperating the chrystals from oils/fats? And then it seems as though people are saying if using phalaris that you're going to need quite alot of naphtha...
The wheat juice extractor seems very appealing to me, but cost can deter me away. I hear though that cheaper things like carrot juicers work as well. It'd be neat to mix the juice I get from the phalaris with a possible MAOI (I hear the possibility of passiflora having harmoline is this good for ayahuasca? I believe the harmoline is diluted though, and I would want to know how to extract it without extracting the benzo-related alkaloids) I would be dettered from ayahuasca though as it seems their are many dietary and pre-ritual measures taken.
Also I hear about converting the DMT into freebase form, if this is necessary then how would the wheat juice work in freebase form?
Also (sorry about all the questions) I hear about bufotenine being in phalaris making it unpleasant. It seems there's a mixed opinion about phalaris, do any of you have personal experience with it? Is it really mostly 5-meo-DMT rather than just DMT?
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Acaterpillar]
#7348313 - 08/29/07 11:28 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm not sure if that would be acidic enough or not, but yes you will need lots and lots of naphtha, that's why its just so much cheaper and easier using mimosa, you'll have to do many de-fats and an a/b extraction with phalaris, mimosa only needs a base extraction and you can usually get away with 1 can of naphtha.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7355347 - 08/31/07 09:02 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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good thing I freeze-preciped the left over naphtha because I got a lot of crystals from it, combined I got a total of 1.5 grams (scale says 1.44 but I smoked the .6 last night)
okay I have a question, tell me if I brokethrough or not, I don't think I did..
I used 60mg on top of a screen in a regular glass pipe, I was so scared to take that first hit because I've read so much about the experience but I really didn't know what to expect. looked at the clock it said 12.45 and I manned up and took the hit. I figured it would be slow burning and lots of smoked, but instead it liquified and went right through the screen, not much smoke at all, and it actually tasted quite nice (I always read how horribly plastic/rubber tasting and harsh it was) 5 seconds later I was thinking to myself.. that's it? I thought there should be more smoke, guess I didn't smoke enough to do anything... still holding my breath I felt something in my foot working its way up my leg and body to my head at about 3 inches a second, I layed down because I knew it was gonna happen now. every inch of my walls/doors/ceiling are covered in pictures and psychedelic posters, I had a dim lamp on, the pictures weren't lit up very well. once I layed down the intense body rush was overwhelming me and at about 15 seconds in my whole room lit up like I had 100 metal halides. I turned my lamp off because I wanted darkness, my fan turned into a huge color wheel with sparks of color coming off, some colors that I've never seen before. my pictures all had new colors and were swirling and breathing and taking on new shapes and form, I then closed my eyes. it was surprising how easily it was to think, all I could think to myself was "OMG!! OMG!! OMG!!!" I also thought it was amazing at how long I held the hit in for, usually if I held my breath that long I would be gasping for air and breathing deeply trying to get my oxygen level back up, but after I blew the hit out I felt very comfortable and my lungs at ease, I wasn't breathing hard, barely at all it seemed like but just enough so I stopped worrying about my breathing and moved on. I had the "WOH WOH WOH" sound you get from doing whippets, but it wasn't annoying like whippets, I also had a sound like a radio frequency, it kept building and building as I reached the peak, at the peak it sounded like I was literally standing next to a boing 747 jet engine, but it was a pleasant sound and didn't hurt my ears. I can't even begin to explain the visuals, 3D geometric patters, colors I've never seen before, structures and patterns I've never seen before, that's about all I can put into words about the visuals.. at the peak I got the biggest erection of my life, and it felt like a complete body orgasm, but better than any orgasm I've ever had (I've had some pretty amazing ones on mdma, this time didn't even come close though). even though I had this body orgasm, I felt like my body wasn't there, just my mind and all my nerves laying in bed. I wasn't very emotional during the actual trip, mainly because I was so utterly amazed (english language can't explain how amazed I was) at what I was experiencing. I knew I was coming down because the sounds were getting softer and the visions were slowing down. it felt like a rollar coaster ride, you're kinda scared at first, then you take off and get pulled up the first big hill by the chain, and then BAM you get to the top and drop to rock bottom in less than 2 seconds, have the most intense ride of your life and then its all over just like that, that's how it felt. once the sound was gone the visuals got back to baseline while my eyes were closed. then I opened them and got the BIGGEST gasp of air in my life, it felt like I drowned and got some CPR and came back to life, that first breath was the most amazing thing ever. I have asthma and can't breath very well, but this breath was unlike any breath I've ever taken, like being reborn again. I looked at the clock and it was only 12.49, only 4 mintues!!!! the visuals with eyes opened then was like a 5+ gram shroom trip, very vivid colors and lights and INTENSE kaleidescopic vision. I sat up, jaw literaly dropped to the floor and fell down about a mile into the ground. I was amazed, then the emotions hit me hard. I had the biggest smile, and wanted to jump up and scream at the top of my lungs (couldn't though everyone was asleep) so I held it in, I felt happier than I ever have in my life. me and my gf have been having bad problems the past 2 months and I've been very sad, but this was a relief, I felt soo happy and I still have a smile on my face. I was so happy that I started crying because I felt that everything was solved and I can start over with my life in a new direction, I knew what I wanted in life and how to get it and keep it. this dmt is going to fix our relationship completely. that's the general idea of the trip, obviously I can't go into detail and explain what really happened because I'm having such a hard time picking out words to describe the experience, but you get the idea.
about an hour passed, I layed in bed that long trying to figure out what just happened to me. I wanted to light the bowl to make sure I got it all, so I held the lighter on the screen and sucked the flame in, lit for about 10 seconds until the bowl got too hot to hold, and then BAM!!!! I was thrown back into dmt hyperspace, it wasn't as intense as the first, but it sure was pretty fucking intense. I thought I brokethrough the first time because of what I experienced, but I hit the pipe about 10 more times and had an intense trip each time.
so the question is, did I breakthrough? now I don't think I did because I got about 10-15 trips out of it, from the reports I've read everyone breaksthrough on about 5-6mg and has nothing left afterwards in the pipe. I can't even imagine the effects and emotions ill get if that wasn't a breakthrough, but I feel like there's so much more. I read before that a good way to smoke it is put the crystals on top of some ash and smoke it so it doesn't fall through the filter, it will just melt onto the ash and you can smoke it all at once, so obviously I didn't breakthrough if I got about 10 very intense trips right?
sorry for all the rambling I'm still amazed right now. if you've read this whole post, thanks!!!
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7355572 - 08/31/07 10:04 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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not a breakthrough
don't begin inhaling until all the dmt has liquefied (or smoke starts to build without you inhaling), then pull and keep pulling as hard/long as you can. I try not to quit pulling until I am beginning to go into 'hyperspace' and can't feel my body anymore
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: demius]
#7355706 - 08/31/07 10:40 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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okay good, I really can't even image how intense it's going to be to breakthrough. I'll try again tonight 
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7355742 - 08/31/07 10:51 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7355773 - 08/31/07 10:59 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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You should get a freebase pipe, you just heat the bowl were the dmt crystals are in they melt and start vaporizing, nothing goes through the screen cuz there is no screen.
When i loaded 60mg i could easily keep taking hits until i was so out there that i couldn't.
I strongly suggest a freebase pipe instead of regular one.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Infested]
#7355827 - 08/31/07 11:19 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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if I go to a smoke shop to get a freebase pipe, what do I ask the clerk? is it an oiler? i've never used one before I really don't know what I'm looking for.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7355859 - 08/31/07 11:27 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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I saw crack pipes for sale as "incense vaporizers"
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Gastronomicus]
#7355885 - 08/31/07 11:33 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't know i just went to store were they sell all drug related items. And i found it in the counter and asked for it.
Try literally asking for meth or crack pipe 
Its a glass tube on the end of it attached a glass ball that has a small hole in it.
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#7355953 - 08/31/07 11:52 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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haha yea i was wondering what would happen if i walked in asking for a crack pipe
i'll check out a couple stores this weekend.
you'll have to teach me how to use it, I've read a lot of people trying it for the first time and not really having any luck
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7355982 - 08/31/07 12:00 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think you put the spice in the bowl and hold the lighter below the bowl to get it to vaporize and then inhale all the smoke, but then again, I don't smoke a lot of crack 
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Gastronomicus]
#7356046 - 08/31/07 12:27 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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yea, that wasn't a breakthrough.
Just make a quick freebase pipe out of a light bulb, works better then a tiny little vape pipe from the head shop. The large bulb holds more smoke, and it's easier to use i think. You just have to put the flame beneath the glass (not actually touching it) and the spice will melt and start to smoke, then you start adding some airflow.
You only took one hit...you should have kept hitting it until you couldn't focus on the task at hand any longer, lol. 3..4..keep going until it's all gone.
The trip you described was much like my first trip. You just seen the "veil" when you breakthrough, you smash through the 3d geometrics into hyperspace.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7356050 - 08/31/07 12:28 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
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haha yea i was wondering what would happen if i walked in asking for a crack pipe
i'll check out a couple stores this weekend.
you'll have to teach me how to use it, I've read a lot of people trying it for the first time and not really having any luck
hold lighter away but near the bottom of the bowl/piece, dmt liquefies, you inhale
i think the concept of vaporizing a substance is so difficult for many is because they are using to smoking substances (almost always people directly light the substance, but even with bud it's best to take time when hitting a bowl and not touch the flame to green)
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: demius]
#7356068 - 08/31/07 12:33 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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is there a carb you have to cover?
and would a torch lighter be better or just a regular big?
you're right about taking your time, it bothers me when I see people sparking up the entire bowl of some good bud.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7356110 - 08/31/07 12:48 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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is there a carb you have to cover?
and would a torch lighter be better or just a regular big?
you're right about taking your time, it bothers me when I see people sparking up the entire bowl of some good bud.
no carb. glass get's hot, you dont want your hands down there, lol.
I've got some of these pipes here..but they don't work as great as a lightbulb does. You can gut a lightbulb in a matter of minutes and it makes a great freebase pipe.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: enesi]
#7356392 - 08/31/07 02:29 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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how do you make one with a lightbulb?
i'll just use that for tonight
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7356638 - 08/31/07 03:52 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Divinatory said:
how do you make one with a lightbulb?
i'll just use that for tonight
just have to rip the end off, and take out all the guts. if it has the white stuff inside of it, use salt to rinse it out.
http://www.teamdroid.com/diy-hollow-out-a-light-bulb/
Then use an inkpen tube as a tutor to smoke with.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: enesi]
#7356751 - 08/31/07 04:33 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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alright thanks a lot!
ill try it out.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7356806 - 08/31/07 04:55 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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In your trip report you said 5-6mg...did you mean 50-60? That is about how much you need to smoke at once to have a breakthrough dose. You should be able to vaporize an entire 50mg dose in 1 to 3 large hits.
If you don't have a scale, it can be hard to judge how much you really have loaded up
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: enesi]
#7356912 - 08/31/07 05:41 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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haha yea 50-60mg sorry.
I have a mg scale no worries.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7357081 - 08/31/07 06:43 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good luck then, I'm sure you'll report back when you breakthrough!
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: enesi]
#7357353 - 08/31/07 08:47 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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how long should I hold each hit in for?
last night I held each one for about 15 seconds. I just don't know if ill be able to take 3 hits and hold each in that long because after the second hit I was starting to forget how to light a pipe
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: Divinatory]
#7357389 - 08/31/07 09:02 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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how long should I hold each hit in for?
last night I held each one for about 15 seconds. I just don't know if ill be able to take 3 hits and hold each in that long because after the second hit I was starting to forget how to light a pipe
that should be plenty of time..just keep it up until it's all vaporized. I hold it in until i can't stand it, exhale and immediately take another. usually by the 3rd all the spice is gone.
It just takes a little practice to find what works best for you.
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Re: DMT extraction pictoral **recrystalization** [Re: enesi]
#7357607 - 08/31/07 10:31 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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the trick is to take multiple hits without exhaling (or exhaling as minimal amount of smoke as possible)
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: demius]
#7357717 - 08/31/07 11:43 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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hi!
i'm caupuri from amazon forest. i have jurema, chaliponga and chacrona a lot... i would to know if is possible extract dmt this plants, and how?
tnks
caupuri..
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: caupuri]
#7357963 - 09/01/07 02:50 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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I now know the meaning of "set and setting"
I broke through. and am coming down as I write this.
I was looking out my window as I was taking the hit, starring at some trees, thinking to myself how beautiful the trees will look once the dmt hits me, and how happy ill be, but it took a turn for the worse.
about the set and setting.. my setting was perfect, but my mindset wasn't that great. at the moment I was perfectly content, but me and my gf are having problems right now so I'm not in the best mindstates. however I didn't think this would be a problem because I felt fine before I took the hit, I was happy, no worries, but I guess deep down inside I was still torn up.
as I was looking at the tree I set my pipe down, the tree started to disintegrate, everything seemed to turn rapidly into pixels, and then into fragments, and then the outside (trees, road, grass, sky) broke like it was painted on a window and I blasted it with a shotgun. so I layed back into my bed, it was already overwhelming me so much faster than last night, I began to get scared. this is where it turned bad. I started freaking out. my entire future literally flashed before my eyes. I live with my parents and they are asleep right now, but I felt there were 2 people beside me, I figured they were my parents. I was freaking out worse than ever in my life, thinking about a million thoughts at once, like why did I make this stuff and smoke it knowing if my parents really did walk in I would lose everything I've worked so hard for. I overdosed a couple years back and had a NDE, my parents were there beside me, I had a flashback to that moment, I felt like my mom was holding me telling me it'll be okay. I kept telling myself to calm down because in only 2 minutes it'll be over. the visuals were so intense, but I paid no attention to them because I thought I was dying in front of my parents. I couldn't feel my body at all, but I knew what my body was doing. I sat up and kept touching my face to see if I was still in one piece, I thought my teeth were falling out and I felt like I was choking on them, and I felt like my mouth was pouring out blood all over my bed. at this point I started to think what if my parents aren't really in my room watching me bleed everywhere, so I started thinking of what I can tell them when I come down and have no teeth and blood splattered all over the place. I felt like I wasn't breathing at all, I thought I was suffocating on all the blood, and then I felt like I actually drowned in my own blood, feeling my heart stop and my soul lift from my body. I didn't want to die so jolted up and my soul came right back into my body. I was moving around all over my bed. I kept trying to find my lamp so I can see what was happening, but this was impossible because the visuals completely replaced everything I once saw, my eyes were open the entire time. at this point I felt like I had nothing left in life, that this was it, so I just sat there motionless, trying to calm myself down, praying for reality to come back. I finaly saw a little light coming from my alarm clock, seeing this light I knew exactly where to reach for my lamp, I turned my lamp on but still couldn't see anything in my room. I closed my eyes but the visuals got much more intense and I started freaking out again. slowly my lamp light became more visible until I could start to make out my room again. I checked my bed, no blood, my teeth were still there, I ran to the bathroom, no blood, I looked perfectly fine. and now I'm here, writing this, still shaking from the 5 minutes of pure terror I just went through.
so that's basically it, again there's really no way I can put into correct words what I just felt, the english language can't explain it. I feel pretty calm now that I'm still alive and have all my teeth.
I learned so much these past 10 minutes, this substance is definately not something to fuck around with. it can take your deepest, darkest emotions and rip them from your body and soul and beat you to hell with them. I also learned to appreciate life, and the people around me that care about me. I learned so much more but I think the rest is better kept to myself.
ill be waiting until I'm emotionally stable to have another dmt experience, I can't imagine what ill feel like if I'm completely happy before I take that first hit.
so there ya go, if you've never done dmt before, be sure you have nothing to hide, and are in a perfect, content mindset before you take that hit, I've seriously never felt so scared for my life before, and now I'm just utterly happy to be alive.
oh and I tried vaporizing with the lightbulb, it didn't really work, so I put some ash down in the bowl of my pipe, put the dmt on top, held the lighter over the dmt and let it melt, then I sucked the flame down into the bowl while breathing in.
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even though I went through all that, I came to baseline finally, i looked at my pipe to see the black ball of ash, andi wanted to take a small toke, knowing from last night that a small hit will make me very happy. I took the hit, surprisingly I started to feel something. everything started getting brighter, about 30 seconds passed and I felt like it was already going away, so I took another tiny toke, and them BAM! it started hittng me hard. I knew I wasn't going to breakthrough but it was still pretty intense coming on. I close my eyes for only about 2 seconds, and I started to feel fear again. I opened my eyes and started wispering "its okay, just let go and relax" so I did. I just let it take me. I kept whispering " I could be freaking out right now but I'm not" because I felt like I was right on the line where I could go one way and freak out or go the other way and feel safe, but riding on that line in the middle was pretty fun and it made me really happy. the visuals were crazy, but I could still make out everything I saw so I felt safe. I looked outside at the tree, there's just something about that tree, even though there are about 100 trees mixed in, this one tree was brightly lit, moving, morphing, and dancing while all the others were dark and motionless.
I'm completely back to baseline, I'm gonna take 2 more hits and ill be done for the night. I'm gonna try and figure out why I freaked out so bad, and how it can help me, with the lights on and my eyes open of course
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this time its all visuals, I cant think about why it happened or how its gonna help me, because I'm too overcome by the beauty that's surrounding me. the tree again, dancing, elegant. I don't have much more to say now, I need to give my lungs a break. this night has been intense, a night ill never forget. I feel like I'm just rambling, I don't know what all of you think of me now, I really don't care, I don't even know why I'm typing all this shit out. the visuals are gone, but all the colors look pretty, and now my emotions are coming. ill leave it at that. I'm going to transfer these trip reports into the trip report section, and write each time I trip. I think next time I'm going to record myself, and then just type it up later.
sorry for such a long post.
thanks if you read the whole thing, and I hope you got something out of it.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: Divinatory]
#7358387 - 09/01/07 08:56 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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so you didn't meet any entities or elfs eh? lol
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: enesi]
#7358753 - 09/01/07 11:16 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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I probably did, but like I said I paid no attention at all to the visuals.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: Divinatory]
#7358832 - 09/01/07 11:49 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sounds like some difficult experience. Yeah set and setting are very important with any drug. I think having someone taking care of you is also a good idea, both times i did it someone was looking after me.
Take care man.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: Infested]
#7358854 - 09/01/07 12:04 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've never had a bad trip before, set and setting have never really influenced the effects of any drug I've taken. a trip sitter would've helped a lot. I've done tons of research, read countless reports and books on dmt, but nothing came close to preparing me for it. but hey you gotta learn some way, I'm kinda glad it happened, it showed how powerful something so simple can be.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: Divinatory]
#7358874 - 09/01/07 12:15 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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I probably did, but like I said I paid no attention at all to the visuals.
they aren't visuals, that's why people refer to them as entities
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: demius]
#7358934 - 09/01/07 12:39 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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yea that makes sense, I honestly don't know what I saw, I can't remember anything I was seeing because I was so worried about if I was okay or not. all I really remember seeing was the flashback I had, and then I felt the presense of 2 entities but I can't remember if I saw them or not. the feeling of those 2 entities by my side automatically made me think of my parents.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: Divinatory]
#7358995 - 09/01/07 01:04 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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yea, they aren't really just visuals, they are real hallucinations. Actual little beings and shit, not just a shape in a complex grid of patterns, lol.
Keep going though, take a few more trips and report back
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: demius]
#7359018 - 09/01/07 01:20 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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yea I can see how they would be like actual hallucinations, because during the flashback it was like I was seeing myself perfectly clear like in reality, but the complex grid patterns were surrounding this clear view of reality I had.
I'm gonna wait a week or 2 before I have another breakthrough, I need to fix a few things in reality before I travel back to hyperspace. ill report back though
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: enesi]
#7360511 - 09/01/07 11:42 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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Having your fathers around isn't probably the best setting.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: Divinatory]
#7360817 - 09/02/07 02:28 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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excellent trip reports bro-- and a strong reminder to all that think this experience is no more than these played-out and unfortunately sought-after cartoon images of elves and space-aliens.
I wish there were a way to let that ridiculous story die--- why people want to preach the visions of one dude you read about as "the" trip experience to strive for and create in your own mind is beyond me.
DMT gives a unique gift to each user-- I don't want to trade in "my" intimate messages for the pictures some other guy said I should see (even a popular a guy as T. McKenna)... and I can't see why so many are so intent to muddy the experience with another mans storytelling...
It's an extremely strong psychedelic, and should be treated as such--- potentially (and often) a lot more than anything any person, famous or not, has ever written about...
Best wishes--
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: coAsTal]
#7361222 - 09/02/07 08:45 AM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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thanks!
you're right though, people expect too much now because of all the reports that say the same thing, maybe that's why I had a bad trip, I went into it expecting nothing really, I didn't think about contacting the "self-transforming machine elves" or spheres made of unknown metal... I always try and have an open mind when I trip.
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: Divinatory]
#7362897 - 09/02/07 08:47 PM (4 years, 5 months ago) |
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**NEW TRIP REPORTS**
look for my thread in the trip reports subforum
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Re: DMT extraction question, NEED HELP [Re: fapjack]
#15199774 - 10/09/11 09:51 AM (4 months, 4 days ago) |
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I never clean my product. But you could do a hot naptha/benzene defat than freeze precip. Than if you wanna overkill I believe a quick water wash should get rid of that naoh.
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