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blue lotus (nymphaea caerulea) and drug testing
    #7227878 - 07/26/07 09:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

best I could find was a site that had apomorphine (one of it's primary alkaloids) on it's "Non Cross-Reacting Compounds" list

which basically just means that this is one of those 'safe' compounds that are known to give false positives, so I guess they do *something* to insure that it won't come up...like they 'raise the bar' so that you'd have to be taking copious amounts of this crap for it to register as even a miniscule dose of something that would be most likely illegal (or some shit like that anyways)

so I would *assume* that I need not worry
(at least - as long as I only do it occassionally)

but I'd just as soon worry at least a little (cosidering what kinda mess I'd be in with a failed test) and I'm hoping someone here might have a little more info then just this

* preferrably from a source a bit more concrete then just random hear-say


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Re: blue lotus (nymphaea caerulea) and drug testing [Re: Muppet]
    #7229382 - 07/27/07 05:28 AM (7 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: blue lotus (nymphaea caerulea) and drug testing [Re: Muppet]
    #7230202 - 07/27/07 01:28 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

technincally it could show as an opiate if you have enough


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Re: blue lotus (nymphaea caerulea) and drug testing [Re: thedudenj]
    #7230409 - 07/27/07 02:23 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

yeah...that's kinda what I was thinking

but now, I can't help but wonder which would be worse:
- taking it in mild doses on a regular basis
(which is actually what I'm wanting to do)
- or just slamming it when I know I can

any idea if this stuff will accumulate in yer system and build up over time (kinda like how pot will stay in yer sestem longer the more often you do it) or is this one of those things like psilocybin that basically just works it's way out irregardless of how much or how often

cause I may very well be nailing my own coffin here if I assume everything will be all kosher just as long as I keep my doses low


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Re: blue lotus (nymphaea caerulea) and drug testing [Re: Muppet]
    #7230441 - 07/27/07 02:38 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

do you get enough effect from it to risk it?  Would they not believe you if you told them it could be from the blue lotus? 

*I think I've read that it is reverse tolerance if that helps. (so you'd wanna do a lot, often :cool:)


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Re: blue lotus (nymphaea caerulea) and drug testing [Re: teefizzle]
    #7230480 - 07/27/07 02:54 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

I've never tried it before, so I honestly don't know if it's worth the risk

but I've been curious about it for some time now, and justy recently here I heard it calling out to me...so yeah - the time is right I suppose

I was planning on making a sort of blue lotus/kratom/ginsing tea, and then just drinking a cup or two of that every morning in place of the copius amounts of coffee I typically go through (cause I had assumed as long as I keep the doses low, then I wouldn't have to worry about it) but I have this innate fear of going to jail that's making me second guess whether or not this whole experiment of mine is even worth it

but considering I've already sent away for the shit - I would imagine I'm probably gonna brew up a batch regardless...ssooo...I guess I'm just trying to get a second opinion about whether or not I'm just making a big deal outta nothing here, or if maybe I'd be better off playing it safe with this shit and only using it like once a month (after my random UA comes up, naturally)


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Re: blue lotus (nymphaea caerulea) and drug testing [Re: teefizzle]
    #7230501 - 07/27/07 03:02 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

oh, and as far as the PO goes:

you gotta remember that these people have already heard every excuse in the book, and they're fully expecting people to say whatever it is they can say to find a loop hole in the system...they're not gonna care if it's a false positive or not, and they're not going to give you the benefit of the doubt that it is indeed a 'false' positive

on the plus side though - it's likely they'll just shake their finger at me (maybe even bump me up to once a week for a month or so there, just to keep my ass in line) and who knows, they *may* even extend my probation by a coupla months (worst case scenario, I'm sure)

cause I'm MUCH more valuable to them on probation, then I am in jail









but still:
fear of god baby...fear of god  :nonono:


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Re: blue lotus (nymphaea caerulea) and drug testing [Re: Muppet]
    #7230553 - 07/27/07 03:19 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

could you make it known to the people testing you that you are using blue lotus and it may cause a false positive? Then again, they'd probably just tell you to not use it to be safe.


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Re: blue lotus (nymphaea caerulea) and drug testing [Re: teefizzle]
    #7230691 - 07/27/07 03:59 PM (7 years, 2 months ago)

exactly  :yesnod:


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