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Re: passing road side drug tests [Re: Merkin]
    #7183559 - 07/16/07 02:35 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

Move to Canada.


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Re: passing road side drug tests [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #7184639 - 07/16/07 07:17 PM (16 years, 8 months ago)

1. When will random roadside saliva testing for drug driving commence?

Police have the power to randomly test any driver on Victorian roads under laws that came into effect on December 1, 2004.



2. Who will be required to undertake a random roadside saliva test?

Any driver in Victoria may be required to undertake a saliva test for the recent consumption of illicit drugs. In the same way that tests for drink driving are random, drug driving tests are also random and target all motorists on Victorian roads. Vehicle passengers will not be required to undertake saliva tests.



3. Why is random roadside saliva testing for illicit drugs being introduced?

Drug driving is a major cause of road deaths in Victoria . In 2003, 31 per cent of drivers killed in Victoria tested positive to drugs other than alcohol.

Research shows that a driver who has recently consumed THC (the active component in cannabis) or methamphetamines (speed) is at the same risk of having a crash as a driver with a BAC above 0.05.

Random roadside saliva testing for illicit drugs is part of the Bracks Government’s arrive alive! road safety strategy to reduce the road toll by 20 per cent by 2007.



4. What drugs will be detected with saliva tests?

Random roadside saliva tests will detect the presence of THC (the active component in cannabis) and methamphetamine (speed), also known as ice or crystal meth.




5. What about other illicit drugs?

While saliva testing will not be used to detect illicit drugs other than THC (the active component in cannabis) and methamphetamines (speed), current drug impaired driving laws will continue to be used to detect drivers impaired by other illicit drugs, such a heroin.



6. Will my medications be detected?

The saliva tests to be used in Victoria will not detect the presence of prescription drugs or common over the counter medications, such as cold and flu tablets. Saliva tests will only detect THC (the active component in cannabis) and methamphetamines (speed) - substances that are not legally prescribed in Australia.



7. Why are saliva samples being used to test for the consumption of illicit drugs?

Saliva samples are used because they are easy to collect and can be screened using a quick, easy and accurate method to detect the presence of THC (the active component in cannabis) and methamphetamines (speed).



8. How reliable is saliva testing for illicit drugs?

Saliva screening is an accurate and reliable method for detecting the recent consumption of methamphetamines (speed) and THC (the active component in cannabis). All saliva drug screening devices will be required to meet rigorous standards of accuracy. Before any charge can be laid, the presence of THC or methamphetamine in the saliva sample must be confirmed by laboratory testing.



9. For drivers who return positive results to roadside saliva tests, when and how will they receive results from laboratory analyses?

Drivers will be informed within a few weeks of the roadside saliva test being conducted that their saliva test laboratory analysis confirms an illicit drug was present and that they are to be fined or prosecuted for an offence.



10. Will drivers who return positive results to roadside saliva tests be allowed to drive before laboratory analysis of the test is complete?

Drivers will not be permitted to drive immediately after positive roadside saliva test. Drivers may choose to wait at the roadside until an illicit drug is no longer present. Alternatively, they can leave and return to collect their vehicle at a time which will be advised by the police. Once an illicit drug is no longer present, drivers will be allowed to drive prior to receiving the results of their saliva test laboratory analysis.



11. Will saliva samples be destroyed when the testing process is complete?

Yes. All saliva samples will be destroyed at the completion of the testing process. A NATA (National Association of Testing Authorities) accredited laboratory will be used to conduct the testing and the samples will be destroyed.



12. Can drivers refuse to undertake a saliva test for illicit drugs?

Random roadside saliva tests for illicit drugs are mandatory. Drivers who are pulled over for a random roadside saliva test are required by law to undertake the test. Drivers who refuse to undertake the test will be committing an offence and be subject to serious penalties.



13. What if I am unable to provide a saliva sample?

Drivers who are unable to supply a saliva sample will be required to supply a blood sample to test for the recent consumption of illicit drugs. Authorised health professionals will take blood samples. There is also a provision enabling police to take urine samples for testing.



14. Where will roadside saliva testing for illicit drugs be conducted?

Roadside saliva testing is random and may be conducted anywhere throughout Victoria .



15. How long will a drug test take?

An initial saliva test will take around five minutes. Drivers who return a positive result to the initial sample will require further tests. The total time for these drivers could be up to approximately 30 minutes.



16. Will I be required to leave my vehicle to undertake a roadside saliva test?

Most roadside saliva tests can be conducted through the driver’s window, in a similar way that preliminary breath tests for alcohol are conducted. In some cases, however, drivers may be required to get out of their vehicle. As with breath tests, drivers who return a positive result to the first test will be required to leave their vehicle to accompany police officers to the drug bus for further testing.



17. How long after consuming illicit drugs can they be detected?

The consumption of THC (the active component in cannabis) will be detected for several hours after use. The actual time after consumption that THC will be detected depends on the THC strength of the cannabis used and on the driver’s metabolism. Drivers who may have inactive THC residue in their bodies from use in previous days/weeks will not be detected.

Methamphetamines (speed) may be detected for approximately 24 hours after use. These drugs can affect the ability of a driver to safely control his or her car for at least this period of time. Extremely large doses, other drugs taken at the same time, and differences in individual metabolism may affect the duration of the effects of these drugs.



18. Will other substances mask detection of drugs?

No. There is no evidence to suggest that any substance will mask detection of either THC (the active component in cannabis) or methamphetamines (speed), using the saliva drug testing procedure.



19. Can drivers charged for drug driving also be charged for offences relating to drug possession and use?

The drug driving campaign is about increasing road safety – not drug detection. Legislation prevents the evidence of saliva tests being used in court proceedings for non road safety offences.



20. Does this mean that drivers who test positive to roadside drug tests will not be searched, or have their vehicles or property searched?

Police will carry out further investigations for drug offences, which may include searches, only when there is sufficient information to suggest that a serious drug offence is being committed.



21. Will drug tests be used for DNA testing?

Legislation prevents the evidence of saliva tests being used in court proceedings for non road safety offences. It specifically prohibits the use of the sample for DNA profiling, and it is a serious offence for anyone to perform a DNA analysis from a sample taken for the purpose of roadside drug screening. The sample will not be used in DNA testing.



22. What will drivers who return positive saliva test results for illicit drugs be charged with?

Driving whilst exceeding the prescribed concentration of a prescribed illicit drug.



23. Will the legislation enabling Victoria Police to conduct random roadside saliva testing for the illicit drugs be reviewed?

Yes. The legislation enabling Victoria Police to conduct roadside testing of drivers for the recent consumption of illicit drugs will undergo review to assess the effectiveness of the initiative and the need for any legislative changes.


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Re: passing road side drug tests [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #10771427 - 07/30/09 10:34 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
implied consent is what they call it, if you refuse in Ga they jail you and
suspend your license for a year even if you test clean while your locked up




If you request the hearing within 10 days and have a paid lawyer you can usually keep your license. Even if they take it the DOT will usually grant a permit for work travel. I hate GA, but at least the state can't force me to take a needle in the arm yet. Not for a drug test anyway. If you are suspected for rape, murder they can fetch a warrant for dna. Never heard of them chasing a dna subpoena for dope though.


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Re: passing road side drug tests [Re: Epigallo]
    #10771448 - 07/30/09 10:37 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

i love America!


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Re: passing road side drug tests [Re: Merkin]
    #10771502 - 07/30/09 10:49 PM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Wow..  Here in California, something like this would get shot down long before it was ever suggested..

We got too many lawyers per citizen and we keep our drug laws in check.


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Re: passing road side drug tests [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #10771949 - 07/31/09 12:19 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
implied consent is what they call it, if you refuse in Ga they jail you and
suspend your license for a year even if you test clean while your locked up




man... living in GA sucks. wtf :carl:


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Re: passing road side drug tests [Re: Artnotwar]
    #10772192 - 07/31/09 01:23 AM (14 years, 7 months ago)

Research shows that a driver who has recently consumed THC (the active component in cannabis) or methamphetamines (speed) is at the same risk of having a crash as a driver with a BAC above 0.05.

wheres this research?
it's an outright lie.

then this:
17. How long after consuming illicit drugs can they be detected?

The consumption of THC (the active component in cannabis) will be detected for several hours after use. The actual time after consumption that THC will be detected depends on the THC strength of the cannabis used and on the driver’s metabolism. Drivers who may have inactive THC residue in their bodies from use in previous days/weeks will not be detected.

Methamphetamines (speed) may be detected for approximately 24 hours after use. These drugs can affect the ability of a driver to safely control his or her car for at least this period of time. Extremely large doses, other drugs taken at the same time, and differences in individual metabolism may affect the duration of the effects of these drugs.



wheres the part about drivers abilities being affected with THC like it mentions for speed?
seeing as they have lumped the two together...

Edited by filthee (07/31/09 01:29 AM)

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