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 Re: Small Commercial Oyster Growing Operation - Grown on Straw *Pics* [Re: Cryogenicz]
#7014530 - 06/06/07 01:03 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Graham, doing three flushes per bag, do you find insects to be a problem? (fungus gnats). If so, what do you do to keep their populations down. Sorry this might have already been mentioned by you but I always like to hear peoples ideas on that.
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 Re: Small Commercial Oyster Growing Operation - Grown on Straw *Pics* [Re: zee_werp]
#7014859 - 06/06/07 06:49 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Cryogenicz said:
One problem Im having is mold growing on the wood 2x4's,
is my humidity too high?
what am I doing wrong?
I was going to just paint all the wood...
-Graham
i was gonna ask why there's open wood...
humidity is gonna eventually really get to
all thats exposed...right?
get a roll of aluminum w/pvc...
they use it to wrap around windows...
Edited by LesChanga (06/06/07 06:50 AM)
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Jeremy_Davis
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Re: Small Commercial Oyster Growing Operation - Grown on Straw *Pics* [Re: mousekabob]
#7014992 - 06/06/07 08:08 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
mousekabob said:
Was using a closet in the hall, but found the mushies seemed to like above the fridge better. Guess it's warm and cozie up there.
We're working on expanding, but it's going to take time, sigh.
The fridge vents heat through the back side, and it rises from there. Way to pay attention to the details! You've used the "incubator" that you've always had, but didn't realize it!
Also, of course things take time! If you have any questions, just let us know, and someone will help. I think the biggest advantages come through reading every dang post on this and the mush cult forums just to see what people are doing and how it's working for them. The using that info to create your own system...you'll figure it all out as to how things will expand from here, I believe in you!
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Re: Small Commercial Oyster Growing Operation - Grown on Straw *Pics* [Re: thallus]
#7015010 - 06/06/07 08:14 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
thallus said:
How many rooms did they have to grow 1000lbs a day of king oysters ?
Their rooms were cavernous. It was a stacked system. I think beds were 8 foot by 40 foot, and they stacked 8 high. Each room had about six of these stacks of beds. They had probably 20 different fruiting rooms, but I think there was a collective of growers there (Caputo & Guest, Kennett Square Specialty Mushrooms, and I think one other), so maybe they only had 10-15 fruiting rooms...not sure, but I'll see them this weekend here; (Penn State Annual Mushroom Industry Conference)
http://guest.cvent.com/EVENTS/Info/Agenda.aspx?e=43d64259-9a6e-4f2b-8ba7-1ad5275118a6
so if anyone has any questions, let me know. I'll be able to check the net from Pennsylvania when I get there, I'm sure.
These were major growers. They were doing like 20,000 lbs a week of specialty mushrooms! They told me they sold their shiitake for $1.50/lb for A grades. Hard to compete with that...but the shipping is where the balance comes in to give us local guys a chance.
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Cryogenicz
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Re: Small Commercial Oyster Growing Operation - Grown on Straw *Pics* [Re: Jeremy_Davis]
#7015605 - 06/06/07 12:19 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ask them how they treat thier raw wood in a humid envoirnment 
-Graham
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 Re: Small Commercial Oyster Growing Operation - Grown on Straw *Pics* [Re: Cryogenicz]
#7016276 - 06/06/07 03:34 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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For starters use (Melaleuca alternifolia) Oil from the leaves of the Australian tea tree to treat the raw wood. Tea tree oil is cheap and safe.
When Buying: Look for pure 100% tea tree oil
Dosage: Use a 10% solution, 1 1/2 tablespoons tea tree oil to 1 cup of water
PS..It is a potent antifungal agent.
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Cryogenicz
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Re: Small Commercial Oyster Growing Operation - Grown on Straw *Pics* [Re: zee_werp]
#7017386 - 06/06/07 09:01 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sometimes I get gnats, I use fly paper... They work GREAT.
-Graham
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Re: Small Commercial Oyster Growing Operation - Grown on Straw *Pics* [Re: Cryogenicz]
#7019010 - 06/07/07 10:46 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Cryogenicz said:
Ask them how they treat their raw wood in a humid envoirnment
-Graham
You got it brother! I'll report back on this by Wednesday latest.
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Re: Small Commercial Oyster Growing Operation - Grown on Straw *Pics* [Re: Jeremy_Davis]
#7019207 - 06/07/07 11:37 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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sweet! thanks!
-Graham
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Re: Small Commercial Oyster Growing Operation - Grown on Straw *Pics* [Re: Cryogenicz]
#7020142 - 06/07/07 04:46 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ha, read in a thread on here somewher that STamits has tree frogs in one of his growing rooms. Next day, while watering the garden, a little grey tree frog hopped out from under a plant. Caught it, and put it in my grow room. No idea if it's still there.
I use sticky tapes you can get from the feedstore.
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Re: Small Commercial Oyster Growing Operation - Grown on Straw *Pics* [Re: Cryogenicz]
#7162898 - 07/11/07 07:23 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hey man, any updates? I'm interested to know how this progressed.
(I never got a good answer for you on the wood by the way - sorry...)
JD
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Re: Small Commercial Oyster Growing Operation - Grown on Straw *Pics* [Re: Jeremy_Davis]
#7163375 - 07/11/07 08:50 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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No problem. I have been just spraying the inside with a bleach/water mix to reduce the amount of foreign growths.
-Graham
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Re: Small Commercial Oyster Growing Operation - Grown on Straw *Pics* [Re: Cryogenicz]
#7166065 - 07/12/07 11:58 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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So what's going on in your fruiting room lately? Anything interesting to mention in regards to the marketing or sales aspects? Sorry, I'm like a crackhead for information, what can I say?
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Re: Small Commercial Oyster Growing Operation - Grown on Straw *Pics* [Re: Jeremy_Davis]
#7166301 - 07/12/07 12:58 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've got more tubes in the grow room, trying a the 3014 strain.. not to impressed..
basically, I have a restaurant that will take everything I grow. They LOVE my mushrooms.
-Graham
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Re: Small Commercial Oyster Growing Operation - Grown on Straw *Pics* [Re: Cryogenicz]
#7166588 - 07/12/07 01:55 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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That's great that the restaurant will take that much! So you grew about 220lbs. in a month, can they really handle that much? One restaurant? Well dang, that sounds awesome either way...
So what's up with the 3014? I've never tried that one. Why not too impressed? Is it the colonization times or the fruitbodies that you're not too hip on?
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Re: Small Commercial Oyster Growing Operation - Grown on Straw *Pics* [Re: dwpineal]
#7166921 - 07/12/07 03:29 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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They will take all of my mushrooms, they love them.
3014 just sucks as far as size... I dunno if I just got unlucky or what, but they just don't get very big and they grow ugly..
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Re: Small Commercial Oyster Growing Operation - Grown on Straw *Pics* [Re: Cryogenicz]
#7169868 - 07/13/07 03:28 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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when did you order the 3014? I think you said you are in Indiana, correct? I live in the deep south and had ordered enough spawn to get me through the summer from field and forest and when it got here a lot of it was kinda tanish on the outside. The stuff still works but I have had lots of trouble with it. If I take a bag out of the fridge and leave it at room temp for more than 2 days it will start getting all mushie. Right now Im using about 20 lbs of it a week. My point in all this is, are you ordering spawn even in this hot weather?
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Grown on Straw *Pics* [Re: Cryogenicz]
#7170449 - 07/13/07 09:16 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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What is the dry weight of the basket when it is full of straw?
How many times a week do you do this?
what is your fuel consumption?
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Re: Grown on Straw *Pics* [Re: msmushrooms]
#7185027 - 07/16/07 07:33 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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I am in Oregon, I just don't like the characteristics of the 3014. I am ordering spawn in warm weather, but it only takes 3 days to get here.
Dry weight of the basket of straw is 40lbs which turns into about 130lbs wet.
I do it every other week. (10 tubes)
I can cook up about 4-6 batches for every 5 gallon propane tank, I have 3 tanks.
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Re: Grown on Straw *Pics* [Re: Cryogenicz]
#7185432 - 07/16/07 08:42 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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You might save a little money if you pre-heat some water in an electric hot water heater during off peak hours. Have it turn off at 7:45 and be ready to start your gas burner right away.
Right now retail prices of propane are 3$ per gallon. The cost per BTU equivalent in electricity is 13 cents per kilowatt/hour. Thats a fairly high price. And if you watch your peak demand, thats a very high price.
This graph will show you whether to use propane or electricity
http://energy.cas.psu.edu/energyselector/elecprop.html
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