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 Re: One thing I dont understand about Shroomery and Ron Paul [Re: confusion]
#15744878 - 01/31/12 08:51 PM (3 months, 27 days ago) |
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"Legalizing pot would be great but, If states had more say other things would be illegal"
America is conflicted in its beliefs of what should be illegal, if you delegate more power to the states each state can try things individually to see if it works. We all know day 1 cali is ready to let everyone toke up, awesome. Surely other states will ban MJ on day one.. but now we will have a living example of the benefits of legalizing it! No longer will the lies spread by our government be able to influence the masses as strongly. Every joe can simply say "But what about california?" This is one of the greatest thing Dr.Ron Paul hopes to deliver to america. No longer will we have to trial and error everything on a federal level, if something works great the other states will adopt it. If it fails well, at least the entire nation didn't suffer. We all know not to keep all our eggs in one basket, after all.
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I think his foreign policy perspective will hurt the U.S. in the long run. We need a candidate that understands world issues.
Oh, I think he understands the world issues all to well. I am not trying to be rude but, you are tapped into mainstream media are you not? There are studies out that show people who watch/read/listen to mainstream media are actually more poorly informed then people who don't watch any. I say this because you seem to be repeating what "they" say about him.
For those of you who don't know, Ron Paul is against unprovoked war. He believes that we are making enemies policing the world faster then we can kill them. Now Confusion believes this is some how going to hurt us, it sounds a lot like the same spew the elitest are shoveling through programming means. However I may be wrong, so i ask you, what is it about his "foreign policy" that you think is going to "hurt us"? You do realize more troops support Ron Paul then every other single republican candidate combined, right? The very same troops who are spread all over the world? Perhaps there world view isn't as good as yours though, please, enlighten us.
PS: He also doesn't believe in foreign aid, he thinks we have enough to deal with here.. I agree with him.
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Re: One thing I dont understand about Shroomery and Ron Paul [Re: YawnGG]
#15746023 - 02/01/12 04:07 AM (3 months, 27 days ago) |
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> If anything i'd say your understanding of fascism as corporate domination is exactly wrong. If anything, fascism is the antithesis of capitalism. It is about state control.
In the US, fascism is often misused to mean authoritarian, excluding the nationalism and corporatism aspects of the word.
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Re: One thing I dont understand about Shroomery and Ron Paul [Re: Viveka]
#15746670 - 02/01/12 09:20 AM (3 months, 27 days ago) |
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If anything i'd say your understanding of fascism as corporate domination is exactly wrong. If anything, fascism is the antithesis of capitalism.
Insofar as fascism is a union of business and state interests, fascism is both the antithesis of capitalism and corporate control. Not all versions of fascism are like this though.
The problem with the word fascism is that there are more definitions than there have ever been fascist states.
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Re: One thing I dont understand about Shroomery and Ron Paul [Re: ChuangTzu]
#15746912 - 02/01/12 10:35 AM (3 months, 27 days ago) |
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Agreed.
I don't see how it can be said that Fascism is the antithesis of Capitalism when during the classic Fascist regimes in Italy and Germany countless large corporations, many of which are still extant today, prospered and flourished. Their production was subordinate to the State, of course, but they were privately run and profitable throughout the entire period of Fascist government.
Fascism is the antithesis of Communism, not of Capitalism.
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Re: One thing I dont understand about Shroomery and Ron Paul [Re: ChuangTzu]
#15747276 - 02/01/12 12:08 PM (3 months, 27 days ago) |
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> The problem with the word fascism is that there are more definitions than there have ever been fascist states.
I gotta remember this one. Love it!
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Re: One thing I dont understand about Shroomery and Ron Paul [Re: YawnGG]
#15748320 - 02/01/12 04:48 PM (3 months, 26 days ago) |
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Ron Paul 2012, he can win, the numbers don't lie, the people who tell you he can't are another story.
The numbers don't lie. He is a zombie.
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Re: One thing I dont understand about Shroomery and Ron Paul [Re: zappaisgod]
#15751010 - 02/02/12 08:29 AM (3 months, 26 days ago) |
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Ron Paul 2012, he can win, the numbers don't lie, the people who tell you he can't are another story.
The numbers don't lie. He is a zombie.
Zappa perhaps you should not make such wild claims with no explanation. I haven't noticed you do anything but this.
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Re: One thing I dont understand about Shroomery and Ron Paul [Re: YawnGG]
#15751033 - 02/02/12 08:37 AM (3 months, 26 days ago) |
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> Zappa perhaps you should not make such wild claims with no explanation.
If Zappa explained why Ron Paul is a loser every time a Ron Paul supporter brings up Ron Paul, he would never get to reply to anything else. There is a handy search function that will allow you to search for "L. Ron" posted by Zappaisgod in the Political Discussion forum.
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Re: One thing I dont understand about Shroomery and Ron Paul [Re: Seuss]
#15752230 - 02/02/12 02:54 PM (3 months, 25 days ago) |
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Zombie = walking dead. He has no fucking chance.
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Re: One thing I dont understand about Shroomery and Ron Paul [Re: zappaisgod]
#15762383 - 02/04/12 09:06 PM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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Ron Paul 2012! Give me liberty or give me death!
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Re: One thing I dont understand about Shroomery and Ron Paul [Re: zappaisgod]
#15763783 - 02/05/12 09:14 AM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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Zombie = walking dead. He has no fucking chance.
But even if he does loose he'll do a lot to show what a fucking sham the "democratic election process" is. Then again, so did bush in 2000. Worst president ever ushered in by the supreme court.
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Re: One thing I dont understand about Shroomery and Ron Paul [Re: Visionary Tools]
#15763866 - 02/05/12 09:40 AM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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But even if he does loose he'll do a lot to show what a fucking sham the "democratic election process" is.
Maybe for those who don't understand the process in the first place and have really weird views regarding it. 
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Re: One thing I dont understand about Shroomery and Ron Paul [Re: Visionary Tools] 1
#15763922 - 02/05/12 10:00 AM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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Zombie = walking dead. He has no fucking chance.
But even if he does loose he'll do a lot to show what a fucking sham the "democratic election process" is. Then again, so did bush in 2000. Worst president ever ushered in by the supreme court.
Twelve years later and there are still people who don't know Bush really really did win the vote in Florida. Al Gore lost Tennessee, his home state. If the fucking whiny lunatic had been able to carry the state where the electorate knew him best Florida would have been moot. L. Ron can't win because he is an out of touch retard. It has nothong to do with a failure of the electoral process or the electorate. They are doing exactly what they are supposed to do. Keep the mentally infirm from taking over the country. RIP L. Ron. I am not sorry to see you sail off to your wonderful (no doubt very white and gentile) Valhalla. Don't let the door hit you in the ass.
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Re: One thing I dont understand about Shroomery and Ron Paul [Re: zappaisgod]
#15764275 - 02/05/12 11:51 AM (3 months, 23 days ago) |
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Twelve years later and there are still people who don't know Bush really really did win the vote in Florida.
They walk hand in hand with those who think Clinton was impeached for a blow job.
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Re: One thing I dont understand about Shroomery and Ron Paul [Re: dedjam]
#15775797 - 02/07/12 06:38 PM (3 months, 20 days ago) |
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The original poster, dedjam, asked:
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Why, in a forum full of people who either have been themselves or know someone who has been put through the court system for ridiculous drug charges, would you be against one of the few people that want to reform the drug system?
Hey, I may be a socialist, and he may be a conservative libertarian Republican, but I voted for Ron Paul today.
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Re: One thing I dont understand about Shroomery and Ron Paul [Re: zappaisgod]
#15778543 - 02/08/12 09:56 AM (3 months, 20 days ago) |
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Zombie = walking dead. He has no fucking chance.
But even if he does loose he'll do a lot to show what a fucking sham the "democratic election process" is. Then again, so did bush in 2000. Worst president ever ushered in by the supreme court.
Twelve years later and there are still people who don't know Bush really really did win the vote in Florida. Al Gore lost Tennessee, his home state. If the fucking whiny lunatic had been able to carry the state where the electorate knew him best Florida would have been moot. L. Ron can't win because he is an out of touch retard. It has nothong to do with a failure of the electoral process or the electorate. They are doing exactly what they are supposed to do. Keep the mentally infirm from taking over the country. RIP L. Ron. I am not sorry to see you sail off to your wonderful (no doubt very white and gentile) Valhalla. Don't let the door hit you in the ass.
ouch... that statement has to hurt after Minnesota. if Mitt and Gingrich pooled all their votes together there they wouldnt have enough to beat Paul. Santorum and paul surging ensures this will be a broken convention. Newt is gasping. Adelson is most likely tapped out. and all mitt has in his pocket is Utah.
this is still a 3 way race and you have to be an idiot to think that romney has already sealed this up, especially what happened yesterday night.
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Re: One thing I dont understand about Shroomery and Ron Paul [Re: SneezingPenis]
#15779973 - 02/08/12 03:35 PM (3 months, 19 days ago) |
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My opinion has not changed one iota. Paul is not one of the three. Santorum is, though.
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Re: One thing I dont understand about Shroomery and Ron Paul [Re: zappaisgod]
#15779996 - 02/08/12 03:41 PM (3 months, 19 days ago) |
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Good God, but those of you Republicans that sincerely want to win the race rather than just putting up a candidate that mirrors your views to the highest degree must be sick about a possible Santorum nomination.
I can't imagine he'll be the nominee, but I couldn't imagine he would win all three of those races yesterday either so my precognitive abilities are naturally in question.
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Re: One thing I dont understand about Shroomery and Ron Paul [Re: confusion]
#15784502 - 02/09/12 03:13 PM (3 months, 18 days ago) |
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I am not a strong advocate for states rights. I think courts create necessary social change where Congress and the Executive fail to see the logic. I see the point of creating balance between the Fed. Gov't and the states, but I don't see a lot of danger in the courts, unless spots will be opened soon and filled by new conservative individuals. This would result with Ron Paul. If he is elected spots of older justices will be filled by conservatives. Again see things as a whole, it'd be great if marijuana were legal, but a whole bunch of things would also be illegal if the states had more say.
I agree, also I'd like to make note that I have no political preference between democrat and republican, whoever looks more honest, is who I'll vote for. Then again, I don't vote, and to me they are all liars. If I start seeing a string of politicians that get voted in who keep their promises, I may one day start voting again. I realize this thread has nothing to do with presidential debate, so I'll leave it at that.
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Re: One thing I dont understand about Shroomery and Ron Paul [Re: Madtowntripper]
#15784506 - 02/09/12 03:14 PM (3 months, 18 days ago) |
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I question anyone who says they have pre cognitive abilities
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