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Help ID'ing Mushrooms Found In Haystacks - NE Oklahoma
    #6904295 - 05/12/07 12:16 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Ok, I found these mushrooms partially dried. Growing out of some decomposing hay bales.

There may very well be TWO types of mushroom growing from these bales as I have one small one with a reddish-orange stem, whereas all the others have a white stem. Anyway, here are some pictures of the partially sun-dried mushrooms I picked earlier today. I thought they may be Panaeolus subbalteatus but someone told me that was not true.

Habitat: Humid region of NE Oklahoma, growing in decomposing hay bales.
Gills: Reddish-brown in coloration, gills are attached.
Stem: Stringy and hollow, white in coloration, All except the single small mushroom I found with a reddish stem. All are 2-4 inches in length.
Cap: The fresh ones were tan fading into white. The ones picked today were partially dried, with cinnamon colored caps. Up to 2 inches in diameter.
Spore Print: No sprint print as of yet. Still waiting.
Scent: Smells like any other psilocybin-containing mushroom I have ever eaten.

Here are pictures of the partially dried mushrooms I picked earlier in the day.

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Picture 2:


Okay, I've also got ONE that I picked fresh last night just to do some research on. It's got a reddish-brown or tan colored stem.

Picture coming within the next few hours.

NOTE: The mushroom with the reddish stem that I picked last night could be of a different species than the ones that were picked today. The partially dried ones. Also, I must mention that when I went during the day, that I didn't see ANY of the tan or reddish fresh growing mushrooms that I saw last night. All except for a few patches of babies that just sprouted up. They were all these partially dried ones. I just assumed they were the same, yet dried a little bit from the sun. I'm not too sure because I'm still pretty new to this whole mushroom hunting experience.

Thanks for any advice/help!

-slug

P.S. - Can I get a spore print from a partially dried cap? Or should it be from a freshly cut one? Also, I'm under the impression that to take a spore print all I need is a piece of white paper and a jar, correct? Place the cap gill side down on the paper, place a glass or a jar over the top and leave it for 24 hours or so? Thanks.


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Re: Help ID'ing Mushroom - NE Oklahoma [Re: nefarious slug]
    #6904325 - 05/12/07 12:23 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

i believe you can get a print from it just give it a drop of water, and put it on paper, under a cup, in a bag.


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Re: Help ID'ing Mushroom - NE Oklahoma [Re: nefarious slug]
    #6904328 - 05/12/07 12:24 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Definitely not Paneolus subbalteatus. The red one sounds like it is a different species than the ones you posted photos of, but i will not know until I see it. Your mushrooms, as I mentioned before, are likely Psathyrella or perhaps Bolbitius or something else. It will be easier to ID once you have photos of fresh mushrooms and spore prints.

You have the right idea with the spore prints. you don't even really need the jar, but you can do it with or without. I use a jar if i fear the cap drying out. You cannot get a spore print from those mushrooms, nor most partially dried caps. Make sure not to touch the fresh printing caps after you set them on the paper, leave them alone for 24hrs.


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Re: Help ID'ing Mushroom - NE Oklahoma [Re: wikedferret]
    #6904333 - 05/12/07 12:25 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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i believe you can get a print from it just give it a drop of water, and put it on paper, under a cup, in a bag.



This sometimes works if the caps are just barely dried, though his mushrooms are WAY too dry. No need for a bag.


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Re: Help ID'ing Mushroom - NE Oklahoma [Re: CureCat]
    #6904342 - 05/12/07 12:27 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

yea i know these are but he said he was going to try to find more.


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Re: Help ID'ing Mushroom - NE Oklahoma [Re: wikedferret]
    #6904900 - 05/12/07 04:37 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Well my digi-cam is dead. So I didn't even go out tonight. Tomorrow night I am going back to take photos of the habitat and fresh, live mushrooms. Also, I will remove a cap to take a spore print and post a picture of that. As well as the small mushroom with the red stem and reddish cap. Thanks for all the help so far.

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Re: Help ID'ing Mushroom - NE Oklahoma [Re: nefarious slug]
    #6905661 - 05/12/07 01:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Ok my digital camera is all charged up and I'm ready to take LOTS of photos. I'll be going out for a good part of the day hunting. I'll get pictures of the habitat these two different (I think they are different anyway) species of mushroom are living in. I'll also get spore prints.

Edit: Are Psathyrella edible? If so, active? Just wondering. The fresh pics are coming soon. :mushroom2:

Also here is a picture of the smaller one I described with the reddish stem. However it was picked 3 days ago is is VERY dry, So I doubt you will be able to identify it. I just want to know if it may be different than the others. It seems different to me, the cap is darker and the stem is darker as well. But I'm not the expert here. =p

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-slug


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Re: Help ID'ing Mushroom - NE Oklahoma [Re: nefarious slug]
    #6905804 - 05/12/07 02:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

We can't help vey much when theyre dried like that. give us a correct ID too.

And psathyrellas arent edible or active. kinda just fun to lok at/kick.


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Re: Help ID'ing Mushroom - NE Oklahoma [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #6908037 - 05/13/07 01:37 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Ok, I went back tonight and took some pictures of some FRESH mushrooms. At the same place as before. Growing out of decomposing hay bales. The spore print will be about 24 hours though. I know it's one of the most important factors. So I'll get that up as soon as I can. Also it was too dark to get a good shot of the hay bales and how it was growing so I won't post one. Anyway, here are the pictures.

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Thanks for any advice.

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Re: Help ID'ing Mushroom - NE Oklahoma [Re: nefarious slug]
    #6908292 - 05/13/07 03:04 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You have a couple of species of Coprinus there, and maybe a Psatherylla as curecat suggested.


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Re: Help ID'ing Mushroom - NE Oklahoma [Re: LouiseLouise]
    #6908460 - 05/13/07 04:14 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe Coprinellus or Coprinus, though I see no signs of deliquescing. So I'm gonna stick with Psathyrella or Bolbitius until we get a spore colour....

Slug, could you do a cross section of one of the young mushrooms? Just take a sharp knife and split it lengthwise.


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Re: Help ID'ing Mushroom - NE Oklahoma [Re: CureCat]
    #6909865 - 05/13/07 03:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

K, I didn't know EXACTLY what you meant but I took a knife and split it all the way from the cap down the stem, lengthwise. Here are a couple of pictures. And the spore print should be ready tonight.





Thanks

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Also, do any of these mushrooms, just at first glance, look like active mushrooms?


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Re: Help ID'ing Mushroom - NE Oklahoma [Re: nefarious slug]
    #6909914 - 05/13/07 03:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

he ment split it all the way apart so u can se the inside of the mushrooms. use one of the small ones w/o an open cap.


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Re: Help ID'ing Mushroom - NE Oklahoma [Re: ApacheShaman]
    #6909924 - 05/13/07 03:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Gotchya, doing that now.


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Re: Help ID'ing Mushroom - NE Oklahoma [Re: nefarious slug]
    #6909961 - 05/13/07 03:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)



Like that? Hope so cause that's my last young mushroom. Haa.


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Re: Help ID'ing Mushroom - NE Oklahoma [Re: nefarious slug]
    #6911092 - 05/13/07 09:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Just like that!  :smile:

Those mushrooms look like a Bolbitius.  If so, the spore colour should be light or rusty brown.

They are not active nor worth eating.


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Re: Help ID'ing Mushroom - NE Oklahoma [Re: CureCat]
    #6911927 - 05/14/07 12:52 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You are right on with the spore color. It is indeed a rusty brown color. I will keep hunting though. Thank you for all the helpful information!

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Re: Help ID'ing Mushroom - NE Oklahoma [Re: nefarious slug]
    #6912112 - 05/14/07 01:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

No problem. Good luck hunting!


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