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WV mushroom hunting(im a newbie)
    #6692345 - 03/20/07 07:57 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

i need some pointers, possibly some links to some sites that could help me before i plan to go mushroom hunting this year here in west virginia, im only interested in the psychedelic ones for the time being, i know an expert hunter that can help me with other edible ones if i become interested.

anyone that has experience in WV mushroom hunting please share with me your knowledge.

so far the only one i know of yet is Psilocybe caerulipes, are there any others? are there any poisonous ones i could be tricked by misidentifying? any other info on this particular strain and any other psilocybes(or other psychoactive mushies) in the area(if any) will help.

edit: i also want to know if there are any books i should look out for, for help in my mushroom hunting.


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Re: WV mushroom hunting(im a newbie) [Re: highdroponics]
    #6692724 - 03/20/07 09:46 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

VW mushroom hunting can be fun... you just have to make sure your heat shields are properly sealed to prevent unwanted thermal meltdowns while driving slowly, it is always a good idea to replace the oil pressure sensor in the spring because that little red light can be distracting.
OHHHH you said WV mushroom hunting.... check out http://www.shroomery.org/forums/search.php


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Re: WV mushroom hunting(im a newbie) [Re: georgeM]
    #6692761 - 03/20/07 09:51 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

did that, came up with nothing useful.


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Re: WV mushroom hunting(im a newbie) [Re: highdroponics]
    #6692873 - 03/20/07 10:12 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Blue foots (caerulipes) supposedly are hard to find but are potent ive heard.
Gymnopilus Spectabilis, and Gymnopilus species are likely in your state and you cant forget the oh,
so abundant Panaeolus Subbalteatus. look those up.
Theyre the only actives you'll have any chance of finding.
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Re: WV mushroom hunting(im a newbie) [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #6693071 - 03/20/07 10:59 PM (7 years, 9 months ago)

any of those contain psilocybin or psilocin?(EDIT: Yes they do) im really looking forward to a psilocybin trip, i havent had any in atleast a year, and its not looking too good for the future, i cant even find a good weed connect :frown:
maybe i should just order some spores and try to get them to grow abundantly in the wild around here.(cant grow indoors, still living at home sadly, it will be atleast a few more years before im able to move out...fucking money is bullshit these days)

anyway i have begun searching for info on these, thanks for your help!


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Re: WV mushroom hunting(im a newbie) [Re: highdroponics]
    #6695905 - 03/21/07 05:55 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)



This is Panaeolus Subbalteatus.
It grows in your state. It grows everywhere.
Hence its nickname, the "Weed Panaeolus".
do some research on it and im sure you will find some around your area.
Besides, your chances of taking spores and growing them in your neighborhood outdoors isnt the best way...
Or grow in your room...


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Re: WV mushroom hunting(im a newbie) [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #6696078 - 03/21/07 06:50 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

yeah i did a bunch of research on it and the Gyms. the gyms are hard to identify from what ive heard, and you have to eat alot of them, and i hear they also taste quite nasty.

the pans i hear can grow on just about any type of compost or manuer and are so common they can be found in your own back yard quite easily.


ayway im still gonna make a strong effort to find the blue foot, they just look so incredibly awesome and i really think i can find some, because im outdoors through the whole spring, summer, and fall, even during the night sometimes- i do a lot of fishing/hiking/bike riding.


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Edited by highdroponics (03/21/07 06:53 PM)


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Re: WV mushroom hunting(im a newbie) [Re: highdroponics]
    #6696112 - 03/21/07 06:58 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, I'd would look for bluefoot too. just to see if i could find em.


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Re: WV mushroom hunting(im a newbie) [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #6696169 - 03/21/07 07:14 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Heh, you have the exact same choice of shrooms as in my state. I'm gonna look for blue foot too this year! Bet I'll beat ya to it! :smirk:


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Re: WV mushroom hunting(im a newbie) [Re: Mysteryman23145]
    #6696513 - 03/21/07 09:23 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

hah its on! lol

i saw the first signs of mushrooms growing today :smile: one little shroomie was poking out one of the gardens in my back yard today.


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Re: WV mushroom hunting(im a newbie) [Re: highdroponics]
    #6697749 - 03/22/07 01:55 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I think its still too early for bluefoot or morels. Last year Japanese knotweed (Polygonum cuspidatum) was four or five feet high when I first stumbled onto bluefoot in a place I had checked several times earlier that spring. Japanese knotweed looks like a red devil's tail when it first sprouts and tastes a little like sour green apples.



Later in the season when bluefoot are out it looks like this.




Bluefoot is not Psilocybe caerulipes. MJshroomer forwarded some samples on to Dr. Gaston Guzman for me, and Guzman identified them as Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata. The following is from Guzman's email to me.



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I am sorry...It is not a new species. Certainly it is a rare species and a new record but not a new species. My colleague and me were confused at first with your material, because another Psilocybe that we recently studied from Pennsylvania and we described as a new species...when I compared your mushroom with that of Pennsylvania, I can not find differences among them. Then your material is not a new species, but it is the first record... from Ohio and West Virginia.

The Pennsylvania mushroom is Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, that soon will be published.


Best regards

Dr. Gaston Guzman

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Instituto de Ecologia




So who is going to post the first 2007 bluefoot find? It's probably still too early, but it might be worth looking. Whoever finds them first this year gets to to make the first ever offical shroomery Bluefoot thread, which will be stickied at the top of this forum to post all our glorious finds:D.


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Re: WV mushroom hunting(im a newbie) [Re: shroomydan]
    #6698035 - 03/22/07 03:24 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

holy shit, that is just amzing right there man, all this time blue foot were mis-identified? also awesome that you were the first in ohio to find that particular species growing there.

the shroom i found growing i know wasnt a psychoactive, it was a very pale white and had a small cap, the stem was fairly thick though and at the time i spotted it, it was wilting(just from what i identified from my 2nd floor deck)....i was quite surprised, we havent had rain for like 4 days(but there has been a lot of snow on the ground melting from last week) and it hasnt been much higher than 50 degrees maybe 55-57 the other day.

anywho, i will make absolutly sure to keep an eye out for that knotweed seeing how you had such great luck in finding the blue foot around them. im expecting temperatures in the 60s to 70s all this week..hopefully that will help warm the ground up and get everything ready to start sprouting a couple weeks later, im really anxious to get out there and test my hunting and identifying abilities...this actually sounds like the most fun part to me lol, the experience later is just a reward to look forward to in my opinion.


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im a newbie right now [Re: highdroponics]
    #6699831 - 03/22/07 06:13 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

so yea im a newbie....and I have a stupid ass question.....can u use the mushrooms that grow around anywhere....kinda like that fungus shit:confused:


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Re: im a newbie right now [Re: Beta]
    #6699841 - 03/22/07 06:18 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

beta,did you eat a bowl of stupid for breakfast?


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Re: im a newbie right now [Re: coon]
    #6700052 - 03/22/07 07:26 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

beta you got a lot to read up on my friend....ive been researching over the whole winter myself, and im still in a jam because i have no field practice and i could really use an experienced hunting buddy..but i know noone around here that does mushroom hunting for the psilocybin ones so im gonna need a lot of help from people on here...you cant just eat some random mushroom and expect to get tripped out...or even survive for that matter.


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Re: WV mushroom hunting(im a newbie) [Re: shroomydan]
    #6763614 - 04/09/07 02:58 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Guzman is wrong. Peck is pissed.:smirk:

Caerulipes and Psilocybe cyanescens may be co-specific. If this is the case then
Psilocybe cyanescens should be called Psilocybe caerulipes var. cyanescens. :lol:

I think a lot of the active wood loving psilocybe are going to end up being named Psilocybe caerulipes variation something or other.

I for one like the name caerulipes. Psilocybe ovoideocystidiata, is long and cumbersome and considering Guzman is just renaming Blue foot it just ain't right. I do recall something about Guzman assigning several specific epitaphs to what were later shown to be the same species of Australian mushroom.

Peck is an honored American Mycologist. Guzman's renaming of Psilocybe caerulipes is unseemly and unwarranted. I don't imagine that outside
the psychedelic circle that he's taken seriously, if he does indeed publish this paper.


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Re: WV mushroom hunting(im a newbie) [Re: falcon]
    #6764400 - 04/09/07 10:44 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Please say more falcon; Guzman's criterion for distinguishing these from P. caerulipes is the presences of an annulus, however, as you know, the annulus usually only persists for a few hours.

Guzman also told me the mushrooms I sent him were closely related to P. stuntzii.

What is this about P. caerulipes and P. cyanescens being co-specific?

You have peeked my curiosity Falcon.  :gum:


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Re: WV mushroom hunting(im a newbie) [Re: shroomydan]
    #6764466 - 04/09/07 11:20 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

shroomydan said:
Japanese knotweed looks like a red devil's tail when it first sprouts and tastes a little like sour green apples.





Wow do you just eat it raw?


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Re: WV mushroom hunting(im a newbie) [Re: shroomydan]
    #6765870 - 04/09/07 04:44 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I have twice seen cyanescens beds produce caerulipes mushrooms.
Both times the cyanescens beds were contaminated with small amounts of
caerulipes mycelium. Though this does not prove they are co-specific it
makes me suspect that they may be.

If they are co-specific and since caerulipes was named before
cyanescens then caerulipes would take precedence as the name of the species.


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Re: WV mushroom hunting(im a newbie) [Re: falcon]
    #6766422 - 04/09/07 06:36 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Is it just me or is every psilocybian wood-lover seem closely related?


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