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 Hahzist
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 Re: My Testimony of things to come [Re: Demotriton]
#6711429 - 03/25/07 09:50 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Demotriton
How can you be so sure everything you've said to us is the truth? I understand having an experience where God seems to be giving you some sort of important message must be very powerful! But did you ever consider that maybe your going through personal issues and maybe need some psychiatric help? I'm not trying to bash you here either, its a serious question. If I had the type of experiences you had a few years ago, I'd be worried I might be going out of my mind. 
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Re: My Testimony of things to come [Re: Demotriton]
#6711441 - 03/25/07 09:54 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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This is pretty interesting. What would you say to someone who ate mushrooms and found the Christ?? What then would you say if Jesus and mushrooms led one to what's called 'GOD'?? And finally how would you respond to someone that might tell you you could be in trouble?? See, you get so far along an inner path... Then it takes over. You remind me of me a year ago. Compile all the insights and let them inflate your ego. Just wait 'till it pops for good. BANG!! It took me a good six weeks to pull out of a completely psychotic episode. Not saying that you are headed for destruction, unless you want it, just concerned that you could be headed backwards into a trap. Careful.
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Re: My Testimony of things to come [Re: Hahzist]
#6711456 - 03/25/07 10:02 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Demotriton, I'm not sure if as to whether you're kidding with us or you're enduring through a psychotic episode. And I mean the latter with the utmost seriousness. I'm not making a personal attack against you.
If you are in a psychosis, it will be almost impossible for you to have insight into your behavior. Right now it may be difficult for you to consider the possibility of you not being a messenger of "God," but hopefully time will tell. It is very likely that you are the victim of some extreme delusions. Take Backfromthedead's advice: be careful.
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One more thought... This is super frustrating. I don't think its any new concept that certain plants can supply experiences of religious magnitude. You know the Native Americans have been using peyote for a while now. GOT MANNA?? Now you might have a certain set of beliefs about GOD and what he wants for humanity... But so does everybody else!! The idea is to point to the path so that others can find GOD. Notice how nobody ever reveals this little secret. In your original post you said that you ate mushrooms and heard GOD. Why not just tell people that GOD exists, and if you want to listen eat mushrooms and shut up. You know, as soon as people realize that there is a reliable way to gain access they still have to make the decision. Eat my flesh and drink my blood. Only then will the end come. No offense but you're not the only ONE. Go to a psych ward sometime and count how many people think they talk to GOD or are Christ himself.
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I shouldn't of mentioned the mushrooms, since it is confusing people. I talked to God before I was born, in early childhood. At very stages of my life BEFORE I ever touched drugs. I can't possibly explain what is going on. I do not know what level of awareness people here are at. I can't describe what I know, but I will say one thing that if you THINK everyone that talks to God is crazy, in a way you are help denying the existence of God.
Denying God's existence IS crazy.
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Re: My Testimony of things to come [Re: Demotriton]
#6712008 - 03/26/07 02:30 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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"Denying God's existence IS crazy."
No, it is simply a choice.
(supported by the universe, too  )
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Re: My Testimony of things to come [Re: Demotriton]
#6712311 - 03/26/07 08:27 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Demotriton said:
Denying God's existence IS crazy.
Nei, it is perfectly reasonable. Human beings directly perceive reality and base their interpretations upon that. Now, some human beings are the type that seek to be more aware of their direct perceptions, and to form their interpretations on those direct perceptions in a manner that does not obscure the nature of that which has been directly perceived, and so that the interpretation is based upon more observations. Some people do not leap to wild conclusions and seek to reinforce them, instead of carefully proposing an interpretation for the nature of reality and observing if it is substantiated by the information we obtain from reality.
Once again, g*d simply isn't part of the equation. If you wish to incorporate g*d in your abstract, conceptual processes then feel free. G*d is not evident in reality and reasonable individuals will not assume that g*d is until g*d is directly perceived and observed.
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Re: My Testimony of things to come [Re: Demotriton]
#6713142 - 03/26/07 01:26 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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One question how many here are baptized in the holy spirit? I have been around, and know many people baptized in the spirit and I sense it NO ONE here. That is why I am trying to speak the truth to you. God sent me here because there is confusion. There are people here that THINK they are saved and are not.????
Well I am.... Your on a power trip... Its people who say this kinda crap that will have alot of lost souls to be accounted for...
This false message is one of 100 that turn people away from God everyday..
You use the word of God to try and bend to your will.
If this is truth then everything I say must be truth?? that about right?
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Re: My Testimony of things to come [Re: zero.kewl]
#6713199 - 03/26/07 01:44 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Well I am.... Your on a power trip... Its people who say this kinda crap that will have alot of lost souls to be accounted for...
I would advise you to please review the forum rules to build an understanding of why these type of statements are not permitted in this forum. The purpose and intention of this forum is discussion of philosophical and spiritual ideas.
Speculation as to one's "trip" and being accountable for "lost souls" can be kept to private messages.
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Re: My Testimony of things to come [Re: Demotriton]
#6713534 - 03/26/07 03:01 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Demotriton said:
I shouldn't of mentioned the mushrooms, since it is confusing people. I talked to God before I was born, in early childhood. At very stages of my life BEFORE I ever touched drugs. I can't possibly explain what is going on. I do not know what level of awareness people here are at. I can't describe what I know, but I will say one thing that if you THINK everyone that talks to God is crazy, in a way you are help denying the existence of God.
Denying God's existence IS crazy.
Ever heard of delusions of grandeur? Delusions of reference? Visit a psych ward and you'll know what I'm talking about.
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Re: My Testimony of things to come [Re: zero.kewl]
#6713578 - 03/26/07 03:16 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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One question how many here are baptized in the holy spirit? I have been around, and know many people baptized in the spirit and I sense it NO ONE here. That is why I am trying to speak the truth to you. God sent me here because there is confusion. There are people here that THINK they are saved and are not.????
Well I am.... Your on a power trip... Its people who say this kinda crap that will have alot of lost souls to be accounted for...
You are... saved... of what???
You know, you blame Demotriton for getting error into people's minds but you're even worse.
Because of people like you who tell that our savior is coming, other people are standing on their asses thinking they have no power to overcome the shit in their life, they need a "hero" for that.
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 Re: My Testimony of things to come [Re: MushroomTrip]
#6714690 - 03/26/07 09:09 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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The spirit gave me another revelation. Apparently there are a lot of people with what I call the Holy spirit although some may call this phenomenon something different. If it only was possible for us to UNIFY what we have been revealed by the spirit. Forget about what religion we are, or how God communicates to each of us & look for the common good of everyone instead of saying who's right or who's wrong. None of us knows everything but we all do know something. I know I have my flaws so does everyone here. I am sorry if I've misled anyone. It's just very hard to describe some of the revelations the spirit has given me. Guess some things are best kept to ourselves.
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Re: My Testimony of things to come [Re: Demotriton]
#6714790 - 03/26/07 09:39 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Demotriton said:
The spirit gave me another revelation. Apparently there are a lot of people with what I call the Holy spirit although some may call this phenomenon something different. If it only was possible for us to UNIFY what we have been revealed by the spirit. Forget about what religion we are, or how God communicates to each of us & look for the common good of everyone instead of saying who's right or who's wrong. None of us knows everything but we all do know something. I know I have my flaws so does everyone here. I am sorry if I've misled anyone. It's just very hard to describe some of the revelations the spirit has given me. Guess some things are best kept to ourselves.
Sounds like you're starting to get it. 
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Re: My Testimony of things to come [Re: Demotriton]
#6714839 - 03/26/07 09:51 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Demotriton said:
The spirit gave me another revelation. Apparently there are a lot of people with what I call the Holy spirit although some may call this phenomenon something different. If it only was possible for us to UNIFY what we have been revealed by the spirit. Forget about what religion we are, or how God communicates to each of us & look for the common good of everyone instead of saying who's right or who's wrong. None of us knows everything but we all do know something. I know I have my flaws so does everyone here. I am sorry if I've misled anyone. It's just very hard to describe some of the revelations the spirit has given me. Guess some things are best kept to ourselves.
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Re: My Testimony of things to come [Re: Demotriton]
#6716133 - 03/27/07 10:02 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Ahh... The phenomena. You nailed it my friend. If you remove the religious overtones, you seem to realize that there is this place... Inside. Call it heaven. Call it the subconsious. The spirit world. Dreamtime. You know in reality it is only the beliefs that you hold dear that does the dividing. When you say Holy Spirit, the term to you describes the phenomena. Some might experience the exact thing you do and feel that it is alien communication from Nibiru. In any case... There exists a force, an intelligence, an intuition. Some might feel that this is simply a developing faculty of the human brain. Some might say that the mind is two-fold. Communication between the halfs could to some be what you call 'revelations from GOD'. My only concern is that when you decide what you believe in, it sidelines all the other possible explanations for the same phenomena. When you start living in your inner world and don't take account for Infinity you back yourself into a corner. No need to keep things to yourself. Share the WORD. Just be aware enough to understand that to others you might appear to be staring into a mirror located in some, well... Corner. You should take into account that you might just be projecting your own inner reality onto the outer. Notice then if you redirect your attention, that it might not be the end of days for the planet, but just for your ego as awareness and intelligence unfold on the inside.
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Keep in mind this is more than the spiritual realm, events "out of my control" happening around me in the physical world has been tying into this, my entire life experience is built around this, its very big and very hard to describe. I do respect the possibilities you've stated, I am just trying to find the best way to share this to where it actually makes some sense.
Oh yeah, one of those "out of my control events" were that over a year ago, and a year before that there was some guys posting on here, who, from what they typed had the exact experience I had, some events they typed didn't happen for me, but did the past year, so what had happened to them then, happened to me in the last year after I read their posts.
Also lets not forget that this phenomenon is world wide. What about the 10 secrets revealed to 6 visionaries in Medjugorje, & apparitions of the virgin Mary & sometimes Jesus appearing all over the world predicting the same things I have been revealed.
Plus many more, don't want to list, these things were revealed to me by the spirit.
This thing is REALLY big, much bigger than me. I am just a small part of it.
Also I think thats one of the reason's for Jesus' coming, so we don't get lost in the spirit realm, know how to find God in it.
Wow! another revelation, apparently the confusion I had, and have seen on here about religion & the spiritual realm is a preview of what the Entire World's confusion on religion will be like during the time of the Anti Christ. Weird how God works.
Edited by Demotriton (03/27/07 04:25 PM)
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Re: My Testimony of things to come [Re: Demotriton]
#6717230 - 03/27/07 04:28 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's just very hard to describe some of the revelations the spirit has given me. Guess some things are best kept to ourselves.
Not at all. Through open discussion with others around here, you find that you will become more accomplished at conveying your thoughts on the matter as you explore them for yourself. You have every right to post your perspectives in this forum. This is a forum for the discussion of ideas, not individuals, so feel comfortable to participate.
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Just got another revelation. It appears that Nostradamus had something like this gift that enabled him to see the future. I don't think he was able to see the FINAL outcome, rather he saw future possibilities. I have some many questions, and so much I want to share with anyone who knows what I am talking about when I say access to the spiritual realm.
In my early childhood, I believe that God downloaded memories, or rather revealed this memories within me, whatever you call it, but he made parts of my existence before I was born known in this life.
I was on a spiritual level just below heaven, I remembering thinking it was heaven when I first got there but was told, by what I now believe was an angel sent by God from heaven, that this was not heaven. At first I didn't believe him, but over time I began to believe him more as the longer I was there the more boring it got, I was running out of ideas, things to do, etc. I don't know for sure how long I was there for but 2 million years keeps popping up into my head. The angel was with me quite often in this place saying I needed to be "born again" in order to get into heaven. Once I considered this possibility he showed me some lives I could choose to live, I remember being really unconformable with forgetting who I was, he said he would remind me in my early childhood, but I would forget and then he would remind me again at the end of my time of earth. I had trouble trusting him that he would do this so he said he would give me signs, that would wake me up and I would remember who I was and what I was to do. He showed me my entire life, start to finish, every event that would happen, he even let me make some changes to it, & we finally came to agreement on a life. I should point out that on this level of existence other beings acted as if this angel was God, he was a representative of God and was treated as such, it was weird, you just "knew" he was from God. The angel was still joined to God and was on this level of existence in a way a stalactite descends from the ceiling downward, he still had access to heaven, but was on my level of existence. I wanted to go with him to heaven right there, but he said I was still "attached" below, like a stalagmite to the floor, things were holding me back, & I needed to be reborn before I could ascend. I can see why people believe in reincarnation with memories like this, but thing is I only was allowed to remember only brief moments of my previous life on earth, from my point of view this its the only life I've lived other than certain parts I have been shown.
I didn't make it to heaven last time was because I didn't choose it, I didn't choose it because it didn't look like heaven to me, my last life damaged me bad, I was terrified of another incarnation. My last life ended real bad, I was afraid of intimacy, had lost my trust in everything but myself. The angel said, I didn't make it to heaven because although I believed in God I wasn't sure who God was, he said had I believed in Jesus I would of made it easy since he was God's plan for salvation. All I remember from my last life is something like getting my heart totally broken by a girl, and going on a backpacking trip in the mountains, be kidnapped in the middle of the night and dragged of to this "secret" underground tunnel system. Was stripped naked, and basically butchered alive, somehow, with technology they kept me conscious the whole time. They put my brain eyeballs, nervous system into a robot body. I know it hurt really bad, don't know if it is possible to experience pain worse than that. It was then I heard what I believe was God's voice and said he could take me away from the pain, but I would have to die, all I remember saying was help me, help me, over & over. I died and ended up in the place I thought was heaven. I sometimes have flashbacks of that life and the one in the spiritual realm. I sometimes twitch with flashbacks of having my nerves pulled out. I still have some effects from that life carried over into this one, but thank the Lord Jesus that he is healing me in this life to allow me to accept intimacy once again so I can choose heaven, it will be easy this time, as he said it would. He said he needed me here to help warn people of the coming apocalypse since people wouldn't know it was coming.
I believe the spiritual realm I was in that wasn't heaven was the highest level of what the catholic Church calls purgatory & what new age would call the 9th overtone of the 4th dimension. I believe there are 3 levels to hell & 3 levels to heaven with 6 levels in between. If I remember right you are only given 3 levels to choose from at the end of your time here on earth, the 3 choices are based on how you lived your life here, by believing in Jesus and the Gospels, and accepting Christ as your savior, he makes the choice for you. I believe from my personal experience that there is no way you could ever want to choose heaven without accepting Jesus, since there is no way to know what heaven is without believing in Jesus. How can we choose what we don't know? I know I was surprised at what righteousness really was when Jesus showed it to me. I remember being "told" what heaven was like in this life by the angels before being baptized in the spirit and not wanting it because it meant I would have to "change" I didn't want to change, that was until I found Jesus, he showed me the way.
Anyways that is part of my life experience, anyone have anything similar happen to them?
Edited by Demotriton (03/27/07 10:47 PM)
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Re: My Testimony of things to come [Re: Demotriton]
#6719182 - 03/28/07 06:21 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Similarities here (read my journal if you are interested. I have to update it sometime).
Except my (seemingly) experienced focus shown was not on Jesus, but on every 'good' guy and gurl, who brings spirituality in the form of 'betterment', health, joy, peace, understanding into this materialistic dominated place (that what tends minds to attract all the negative experience we suffer from). The focus was (and is) on the 'principle' !
I think, I couldn't believe, as I was in the spiritual realm (before birth/death), that that realm was so 'unbelievable' to the material born entities, and that they choose to reject its real benefits, instead 'understanding'.
So, we are on the same page, but I see many many good teachers, prophets, avatars, whatever and they are heading the same goal on similar paths.
And I see some critical stuff about Jesus, too. Not that I don't believe that he is in some higher 'degree' of all of them, but been blinded by him to not see the other ones, surely wouldn't lie in his intention, imho.
To bring these personal realisations into a practicable and reasonable understanding reality, by combining these multiple aspects of existence from logos and back into logos, is what I see as a great challenge here 
...why the heck am I writing this here ? That's personal stuff, ok I yet won't delete it. 
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Re: My Testimony of things to come [Re: BlueCoyote]
#6721114 - 03/28/07 03:41 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Can you explain what Jesus told you?? I want to know what he said about the 'way'. What is the way?? Do you really believe in heaven and hell as physical places?? I'm having trouble with the idea since my heaven is here. Now. Hell is where I was. But it is the same place. What changed?? Again where is the path, who do you follow, what is the 'way', and how do you find heaven?? A simple answer would be preferred derived from your experience as a human being. No crap. Just give me the goods. Solve the puzzle, finish the problem, put the key to the lock, and put an end to the mystery. Please!! Since you claim to know what the plan is for salvation. Won't you kindly let us all know. For the sake of humanity??
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