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are these poisonous?
    #6679923 - 03/17/07 10:36 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

We found these in cow dung. Just need to make sure they aren;t poisonous. They don't look like it, just need a second opinion.






Habitat: dung - Found growing in and around dung

Gills: Dark dark grey or black

Stem: whitish but bruises darker bluish brown color

Cap: white with browish grey

Spore print color: Waiting

Bruising: dark brownish blue

Location: san antonio texas

imprint:black


just wanna make sure they're not the look alikes. Also if you know what they are thatd be appreciated too.


Edited by whorobj (03/18/07 01:53 PM)


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Re: are these poisonous? [Re: whorobj]
    #6679931 - 03/17/07 10:40 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Very hard to tell from pics of that quality.. Read the rules and post the necessary information.


Edited by Mysteryman23145 (03/17/07 10:40 AM)


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Re: are these poisonous? [Re: Mysteryman23145]
    #6679978 - 03/17/07 10:57 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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Read the rules and post the necessary information.




Good idea Mysteryman23145. Read the forum rules and provide a detailed description including spore print colors and all that good stuff.

Another tip for whorobj: Start using paper lunch bags instead. The kind of plastic bag in your pictures is not suitable for collecting mushrooms (the mushrooms suffocate and their quality deteriates quickly).


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Re: are these poisonous? [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #6679984 - 03/17/07 10:59 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

how about somone tells me if they know what they are or not?


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Re: are these poisonous? [Re: whorobj]
    #6680014 - 03/17/07 11:10 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Stop being a dick, dick.


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Re: are these poisonous? [Re: whorobj]
    #6680023 - 03/17/07 11:13 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

With the pictures you provided along with no description, no one will be able to help you much here.

People who do not follow the rules of the hunting forum usually get their topics locked..


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Re: are these poisonous? [Re: whorobj]
    #6680034 - 03/17/07 11:17 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

How bout taking that flash off.


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Re: are these poisonous? [Re: AroundtheSon]
    #6680099 - 03/17/07 11:40 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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Stop being a dick, dick.



He is just ready to munch on his mushies thats all.


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Re: are these poisonous? [Re: elmanimal]
    #6680107 - 03/17/07 11:42 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Your pictures cant tell us much. All i see is an LBM. could be a cope, could be an inactive pan. I could never tell. get us some deatils on where in the country, what it looks like, is there any bluing? Ya know...? forum rules?

"how about somone tells me if they know what they are or not?"
This isn't gonna get you anywhere... we need more.


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Re: are these poisonous? [Re: Subbedhunter420]
    #6680207 - 03/17/07 12:13 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Whorobj - Get them out of that plastic bag right away. Put them in a paper bag or some newspaper or paper towels.

And as others have instructed, Read the rules:


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Re: are these poisonous? [Re: CureCat]
    #6680674 - 03/17/07 02:42 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

ok heres species # 2. found at the same place as #1, in and around cow dung

imprints were black








Habitat: found in and around cow dung

Gills: blackish or dark dark grey

Stem: Whitish, pretty fragile

Cap: hint of white mostly golden brown

Spore print color: waiting

Bruising: dark goldish bronze

Location: san antonio tx


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Re: are these poisonous? [Re: whorobj]
    #6680717 - 03/17/07 02:54 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

From one Texan to another...
You have found Panaeolus campanulatus.


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Re: are these poisonous? [Re: whorobj]
    #6680903 - 03/17/07 03:53 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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Re: are these poisonous? [Re: YESSUP]
    #6680910 - 03/17/07 03:55 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

you can eat any mushroom once:thumbup:


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Re: are these poisonous? [Re: fetalscab]
    #6681945 - 03/17/07 09:53 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

so the #2 is hallucinagenic?


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Re: are these poisonous? [Re: whorobj]
    #6681953 - 03/17/07 09:57 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

No.

Read.

Google.


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Re: are these poisonous? [Re: whorobj]
    #6681968 - 03/17/07 10:07 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

No. Number two is Panaeolus campanulatus also known as Pan. papilionaceus.

The first one you posted photos of might be active, but you need to post better photos and the spore print colour for an accurate identification.


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Re: are these poisonous? [Re: CureCat]
    #6682009 - 03/17/07 10:22 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

the pics are pretty clear and should be identifiable. ill take a spore print tonight


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Re: are these poisonous? [Re: whorobj]
    #6682102 - 03/17/07 10:42 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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the pics are pretty clear and should be identifiable.



Then you identify them!!

I know it is not just me, because I was looking at the photos earlier when someone came in my room and said "What's that???"
All I could tell them was "Little Brown Mushrooms".

You say they are bluing. Well, let's see a photo of that bluing!


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Re: are these poisonous? [Re: CureCat]
    #6682171 - 03/17/07 10:56 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

ill try to take some better pics hold


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Re: are these poisonous? [Re: Amatoxin]
    #6683264 - 03/18/07 10:42 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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are these poisonous?









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Re: are these poisonous? [Re: snoot]
    #6683971 - 03/18/07 01:52 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

imprints were black for both species


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Re: are these poisonous? [Re: whorobj]
    #6683980 - 03/18/07 01:54 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

ok, all info has been posted, so can anyone, for sure tell me what these are?


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Re: are these poisonous? [Re: whorobj]
    #6684274 - 03/18/07 03:21 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Blue bruising suggest an active mushroom, I'd think you'd be inclined to show more pictures for a proper ID. The most i can say is maybe a Panaeolus species, but that may even be wrong.

Don't eat any of course, the second ones won't get you high, and the first batch has not been identified.


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Re: are these poisonous? [Re: whorobj]
    #6685180 - 03/18/07 07:59 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

From one Texan to another ..

This is Bluing!


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Re: are these poisonous? [Re: CureCat]
    #6685189 - 03/18/07 08:00 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

I don't know about poisonous, but I don't see anything there to get you tripping, from what I can tell!


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Re: are these poisonous? [Re: nushroom]
    #6685205 - 03/18/07 08:04 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Yessup has a great picture of a couple of copes with bluing! Look closely and learn!


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Re: are these poisonous? [Re: nushroom]
    #6685215 - 03/18/07 08:06 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

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I don't know about poisonous, but I don't see anything there to get you tripping, from what I can tell!



since you're a fellow texan, think you could help me out with what the ones in our area that are hallucinogenic look like?


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Re: are these poisonous? [Re: whorobj]
    #6685817 - 03/18/07 11:37 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Oh my god... Oh god...... I thought I was lazy.

Look, I'll help you out one more time in this thread, but I am sick of your disinterest.
The mushrooms you are mainly after are Panaeolus cyanescens aka Copelandia cyanescens or simply "Copes", and Psilocybe cubensis or simply "Cubes".

Now use a search engine, find some pictures and do some research!  If you had taken some initiative already, you would have found your answers long ago!  If anyone else wants to pitch in advice, lucky you, but I'm done with this thread.  :rolleyes:


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Re: are these poisonous? [Re: CureCat]
    #6686172 - 03/19/07 02:51 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

i found this searching


it looks just like the ones we found right? So these are copes?


Edited by whorobj (03/19/07 03:22 AM)


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Re: are these poisonous? [Re: whorobj]
    #6686204 - 03/19/07 03:31 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

:banghead:



Google can be your best friend if you let it :cheers:


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Re: are these poisonous? [Re: RandomHero]
    #6686212 - 03/19/07 03:35 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

what im saying is the pics i posted are EXACTLY the ones we found, im aksing for confirmation if theyre copes or not


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Re: are these poisonous? [Re: whorobj]
    #6686239 - 03/19/07 03:59 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Is this your photo?? Those are Copes, but if that is not your photo, I still do not know what you have.


I said I was going to go, but I don't like seeing people potentially poison themselves.
Since PMing this to you didn't seem to help, maybe if I post it on here it will get through to you. Though I doubt it.

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i found this searching


it looks just like the ones we found right?



And how about these?

http://images.google.com/images?q="panaeolus+papilionaceus"&btnG=Search&svnum=10&hl=en&gbv=2

http://images.google.com/images?svnum=10&hl=en&gbv=2&q="panaeolus+foenisecii"&btnG=Search

http://images.google.com/images?gbv=2&svnum=10&hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q="psathyrella+gracilis"&spell=1

I'm sorry the links are messed up, I tried to fix it, but the Shroomery format tends to reject google image search links. Copy and paste the url into your browser, and it will work.
Those are examples of three different types of mushroom, none of which will get you high. Do they look just like the ones you found??
Until you can tell the difference between these mushrooms, I suggest you not eat any mushrooms you find.

Oh, and here is another example.

This is a comparison of two different mushrooms. On the right side is Psilocybe cyanescens (potent active) , to the left is Tubaria furfuracea (inactive LBM). They are not very closely related to one another, and yet, look at the similarities! Now imagine how closely the related species might look.
I will also add, those two mushrooms were growing right next to each other.

Please use your head, this is a hobby that can kill you if you are not careful.... and you are not being careful.


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Re: are these poisonous? [Re: CureCat]
    #6686673 - 03/19/07 10:04 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

ya like hold down the shoot button half way and see if it will focus, then snap it.


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    #6686703 - 03/19/07 10:20 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

YESSUP the bluing pic looked soo good and yum, nice.



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