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 fivepointer
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 Re: What shall be your excuse? You have been warned of the judgment to come. [Re: Cracka_X]
#8541429 - 06/19/08 03:54 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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All have sinned in Adam. Meaning that the original sin is imputed to all humans and they are accounted guilty for it. This is why people can be condemned before the Law was given. The fact that men sin is a reflection of the fallen nature that man has since the Fall.
Since all are born condemned the only hope is that God will be merciful to them. Now God can not forgive sin without the demands of the law being satisfied. This is why the atonement MUST take place in order for a sin to be forgiven.
All sin (that is to be forgiven) is imputed to Christ's account, as if He Himself committed those sins. Since He underwent the wrath of God justice is satisfied. He redeemed His people completely.
Good enough does not cut it, God demands perfection, this is what nobody has. Only Christ was perfect, and only in Him can God look at a sinner.
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 OrgoneConclusion
Pharoah & Balanced
Registered: 04/01/07
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Re: What shall be your excuse? You have been warned of the judgment to come. [Re: fivepointer]
#8541438 - 06/19/08 03:56 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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A perfect being cannot make something imperfect.
Case closed.
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falcon
In the green
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Re: What shall be your excuse? You have been warned of the judgment to come. [Re: elbisivni]
#8541475 - 06/19/08 04:04 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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After all, it's exactly what the story of the fall of Eden implies.
Maybe, elbisivni, but JH05 post is explicit in stating that the acquisition of the knowledge of good and evil is a necessary step in man becoming like God.
Hey fivepointer, How's God doing?
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Diploid
Cuban
Registered: 01/09/03
Posts: 14,228
Loc: Rabbit Hole
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 Re: What shall be your excuse? You have been warned of the judgment to come. [Re: fivepointer]
#8541532 - 06/19/08 04:14 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Only Christ was perfect
Nonsense!
Only the gods Apollo, Zeus, and Thor are perfect. They form the infallible Holly Troika, as you well know.
Blaspheming threads like this one are hell-worthy. All of you non-believers don't blame me when you end up in hell on judgment day. I know I've done my part to save you. The rest is up to you! 
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Hard to believe, right? Read it for yourself:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/7874721#Post7874721
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elbisivni
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Re: What shall be your excuse? You have been warned of the judgment to come. [Re: Diploid]
#8542382 - 06/19/08 08:11 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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IMO, polytheistic beliefs are much more sensible than those of monotheists. The existence of multiple 'competing' gods could explain many of the logical-fallacies, loop-holes, hypocrisies, etc presented in association with the idea of one singular god.
I love how monotheists laugh at the ideas of polytheists as if their ideas are so much more logical and realistic. "If people have believed it for this long, then it must be true."
Nevermind that the main focus is placed on the avoidance of punishment BEFORE the thought of achieving some kind of a reward, if you really want to call it that..
Heaven and hell both sound like punishment to me from the descriptions I've heard.
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Icelander
The Minstrel in the Gallery
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Re: What shall be your excuse? You have been warned of the judgment to come. [Re: elbisivni]
#8542448 - 06/19/08 08:30 PM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Heaven and hell both sound like punishment to me from the descriptions I've heard.
amen
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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Cracka_X
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Registered: 01/25/03
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Re: What shall be your excuse? You have been warned of the judgment to come. [Re: ObliviousSeeker]
#8543236 - 06/20/08 12:46 AM (3 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
2. Subdue the earth for their use (Gen. 1:28).
3. Exercise dominion over the animal creation (Gen. 1:28).
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is to be like water
For water benefits all things
and goes against none of them
It provides for all people
and even cleanses those places
a man is loath to go
In this way it is just like Tao ~Tao Te Ching/Daodejing
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