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DRUGS: For the Common Man ··· (editorial review requested)
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I have placed this lengthy thread in here as I feel that [edit: PUB ] participants are of a mind to contribute thoughtful responses - even in the face of such verbose composition .
Upon being sent a link to a topic in a Teen Support forum relating to subject matter that the person sending me the link thought I might be able to help with.. I found myself inspired to help provide these kids with some useful information. And so, I began composing the following essay last night and would like to receive some feedback from people - what you liked, what you didn't like, what you think should be added in terms of content or links.. smack me around a bit and let me know if this is a good essay or why it isn't!
Thanks in advance
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DRUGS: For the Common Man
To those of you who are considering or are unsure about experimenting with psychoactive substances, and to those of you who might condemn illicit drug use simply because that is what you have been taught, I have a few things for you to think about.
Be comprehensive in your review of the pros and cons of any substance, such that you are aware of the potential risks involved as well as what is to be expected whilst under the influence. Playing with the chemicals in our body and mind is not something to be taken lightly - yet it has been going on for many thousands of years. The practice persists today with people who do not give a second thought to the way they have come to depend upon their drugs of choice.
For example, a person may consume vast amounts of caffeine (a central nervous system stimulant) in their coffees, teas, or soda pop. Or there are those unfortunate souls who have suffered a severe injury or surgery and are prescribed strong narcotic analgesics (“painkillers”) by their doctor to help cope with their discomfort, subsequently developing a dependence on these highly addictive legally prescribed drugs. Often these patients accept narcotic therapy without serious consideration, due in large part to a lifetime of perceived trust in modern pharmacology and their doctors. Interesting to note, the active ingredients in many narcotic analgesics are merely extracted chemicals from the opium poppy, the same plant responsible for heroin and black tar opium (and these illicit drugs, though lacking the necessary education and directions for responsible use, exhibit effects not dissimilar from the narcotic medications handed out legally). It then seems a bit silly, that one would be so quick to accept the prescribed narcotic, yet maintain a vehement opposition towards the responsible use of other opium derived narcotics.
How about the working man coming home from a hard day on the job, to mix himself his whiskey and coke, pour a glass of wine with dinner, or crack open a frosty brew to enjoy in the late afternoon light? I know many intelligent, hardworking, and kind people who drink daily - be it one glass or many bottles. Successful businessmen, teachers, construction workers, politicians, scientists, people from all walks of life who enjoy the sedative effects that the active chemical in alcohol (ethanol) has in depressing their central nervous system. These people typically experience relaxation, often a heightened mood, followed by a tired state; Effects not so far from those of the socially stigmatized marijuana or opium.
Physiologically speaking, alcohol can create a chemical dependence in heavy users which if not dealt with in a slow and deliberate manner where the abuser tapers their use over time, can kill the alcoholic who attempts to quit cold turkey. Though marijuana may create a psychological dependence in its users (cravings and desire), the sudden and abrupt cessation of use will never cause death as a withdrawal symptom, nor is it possible to kill oneself from over consumption in a single sitting. These facts alone must make one wonder, how has alcohol - known for instigating violent and otherwise belligerent behavior (just ask your local bar keep or police officer) - been able to remain legal while marijuana - known for instigating laziness and peaceful inaction – has been kept in the hands of black market dealers and soured through such negative social propaganda?
It is true that an illicit drug such as marijuana can make some people uncomfortable, that it also has a tendency to hinder a user's productivity while under the influence, but these same things can be said of many legal drugs as well - recreational and medical. There are plenty of substances which are classified as illegal, yet they are not inherently any more dangerous than many of the most common legal drugs such as alcohol and nicotine, and even commonly used cold, pain, or allergy remedies. In fact, alcohol will tax our bodies significantly harder than almost any plant derived psychedelic. Perhaps this is one reason why alcohol was prohibited in the United States from 1920 through 1933. Fortunately (or unfortunately depending upon your perspective), Alcohol Prohibition was repealed due to the many serious social problems that surfaced, problems which included:- A profitable, often violent, black market for the drug.
- Racketeering, where powerful gangs corrupted law enforcement agencies.
- An improperly manufactured drug (i.e. moonshine) which could hurt those who consumed it.
Of course, there are social problems created by alcoholics as well, but in the interests of harm reduction and personal freedom, it became clear that the benefit of a regulated product outweighed the futile attempt to eradicate a substance that cannot be eradicated. How socially irresponsible it is, that the prohibition of other relatively safe substances such as marijuana, psilocybin (mushrooms), and mescaline (cacti) have also resulted in dangerous street trade, racketeering, and the proliferation of harmful misinformation that only serves to stigmatize and prevent users from obtaining honest and accurate information on a substance that they will be doing regardless of its governmentally sanctioned legality.
When a product becomes legal and is therefore regulated by our authorities, the criminal element is extinguished: black markets dry up and age restrictions can be better enforced, taxes are gained by our legitimate governments (which can in turn be used for rehabilitation as well as risk education for the masses), corruption is unnecessary and no one will have to buy a dangerous or improperly manufactured substance because these substances will be regulated under the Pure Food & Drug Act which governs all of our legal consumables - ensuring with relative certainty that they are indeed safe to consume as directed, and that their potency, potential dangers, and appropriate directions for use are always clearly noted.
But this is not about the case for legalizing drugs (this essay would become far too long, and indeed, may have already!). The point being made however should still be quite clear. There is a hypocrisy that plagues the actions and advices of those who will enjoy their legal drugs of choice, yet who choose to arbitrarily condemn other drugs which carry comparable risks and rewards, simply because the overall perception in our society implies that certain drugs cannot be used responsibly. The root of this hypocrisy lies within a fundamental lack of available information; Information that would allow people to make their own informed decisions, and which would encourage open dialogue free from the inherent bias and social stigma that looms over a topic deemed “taboo”.
To manipulate our conscious experience without harming another ought to be encompassed within our rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. After all, our mind is a chemical factory and every one of our emotions are set aflame through the production of various neurochemicals within our own brain, subsequently distributed through our circulatory system and into our organs and cells. The rush of dopamine one experiences in the throes of lustful desire, the opioid neuropeptides which act upon the same receptors in our body as heroin and morphine during physical exertion or exercise (often called a "runner's high"), the adrenaline that courses through our blood during extreme excitement or fear; all of these psycho- and physiologically induced chemical reactions are scarcely different in mechanism from the illicit substances that many people enjoy responsibly. Even certain types of acupuncture can cause our body to release chemicals into the bloodstream by way of outside influence, once again affecting our conscious experience.
Whether we induce the biological mechanisms within our body through our own internal chemical factory, or we choose to import externally manufactured chemicals into ourselves - the net effect is largely the same and the choice is none other than your own to make. Do not let yourself be led into a belief system through someone else’s opinion. Advice is valuable but it is still subjective, and it is certainly no substitute for doing your own research and gaining your own understanding of a topic. Get opinions, but also get as many facts as you can. Don't be afraid to ask questions of your peers, parents, and teachers. Initiate a discussion and be prepared to listen to the different perspectives presented. Just realize that there is no "right" or "wrong" when it comes to what we do with our own bodies, though one must always consider the wide variety of consequences for all of our actions!
It would indeed be quite foolish to dismiss the potentials for both desirable and undesirable consequence that our actions carry with them. Addictions can and will manifest through internal as well as externally induced chemical action. There are people who are addicted to sex because of the dopamine high it produces and there are those who are addicted to the gym or to spicy foods due to the endorphins released during such activity. Then there are the ones who develop physical addictions from repetitive consumption of a substance, such as the 9 to 5er who needs their coffee in the morning to get moving or else has to deal not only with lethargy, but sometimes even a splitting headache (a symptom of acute caffeine withdrawal). Similar dependence and withdrawal comes standard with the regular use of tobacco cigarettes. There are also those who become so psychologically attached to the complacent comfort of being stoned that they begin to consume their drug of choice on a regular basis simply because they begin to perceive that "there is nothing better to do".
Are any of these things right or wrong? Yes and no, depending on who you are, your individual goals, and how you want to live your life. Most people would believe that addictions are not healthy, and I would tend to agree that any behavior which one cannot effectively manage or control, is a behavior that will most likely come back to bite you in the ass. So whatever your vice, be it sex, coffee, booze, video games, cigarettes, extreme exercise, pot, LSD, mescaline, cocaine, opiates, WHATEVER - remember that balance and moderation are key to healthy living. Above all else, make sure that you understand why you are making the choices you are making, and be aware of the potential legal and physical consequences for your actions. Take responsibility for your life, be safe and stay informed.
For further research into some of the matters and substances discussed in this essay, please visit the following websites.
General Information Databases:- The Vaults of Erowid: Erowid.org is an online library of information about psychoactive plants and chemicals and related topics. The information on the site is a compilation of the experiences, words, and efforts of hundreds of individuals including users, parents, health professionals, doctors, therapists, chemists, researchers, teachers, and lawyers.
- The Lycaeum: A resource quite similar to Erowid, offering a wide array of information on various plants and chemicals.
- The Shroomery: Magic Mushrooms demystified, this website helps spread accurate information about hallucinogenic mushrooms so people can make informed decisions about what they put in their bodies. Featuring a compilation of mushroom facts, articles, reference information, and a thriving interactive community with over 50,000 registered members.
- DanceSafe: Concise health and safety information pertaining to certain recreational drugs commonly used in the dance or nightclub scene including cannabis, alcohol, LSD, tobacco, speed, ketamine, ecstasy, nitrous oxide, mushrooms, cocaine, GHB, poppers, 2CB, and heroin.
- RxList: Fantastic pharmaceutical reference. RxList.com is owned and operated by RxList LLC a California limited liability company located in San Francisco. RxList was founded and is maintained by Neil Sandow, Pharm.D. a licensed California Pharmacist with twenty + years of experience in retail and institutional pharmacy and twelve years as a Director of Pharmacy for several Bay Area hospitals.
- Drugs.Com: The Drugs.com mission is to be the Internet's most trusted information resource for over-the-counter (OTC) and prescription medicines sold in the USA. They hope to achieve this aim by presenting objective, comprehensive, up-to-date drug information in a clear and concise format for health professionals and consumers.
- Drug and Alcohol Rehabilitation articles courtesy of ChillPharm.com: A database website featuring articles relating to commonly consumed recreational substances, with an added emphasis on both illicit and legal drug and alcohol rehabilitation procedures.
- Pharmacology2000.com: Comprehensive online Pharmacology information on a wide array of drugs commonly used to treat various human conditions. Very detail oriented and best suited for those with a serious academic interest in the pharmacological mechanism of today's drugs.
Scientific Research Studies:- Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies: M.A.P.S. has been an integral research and educational organization which has been dedicated to government approved psychedelic and medical marijuana research since 1986. Focusing on the development of psychotherapeutic and physiological research and treatment, treatment of addiction, pain relief, spiritual exploration, creativity research, shamanic healing, psychic research, brain physiology research and related scientific inquiries.
Pharmaceutical and Ecstasy Identification Resources:- Drugs.com Pill ID: Search by drug form, shape, text imprint, or name (pharmaceuticals).
- RxList's Search Engine: Search by name, keyword, or text imprint (pharmaceuticals).
- Wall's Medicine Center Drug Identifier: Search pharmaceuticals by imprint, color, and shape of pill.
- IDthisPILL.com: A message board dedicated to the discussion of pill identification. If you can't identify your substance with the above resources, you may wish to consider posting at this site to question the public.
- Bluelight's Pill Reports: Ecstasy Identification for North America, Europe, Australia & New Zealand, South America, Africa, & Asia.
- EcstasyData: Ecstasy Identification for the US.
- BlueLight: Message board driven website where you can further discuss ecstasy related information.
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Re: ··· Editorial Review, anyone? Lookin' for Feedback on an Essay Re: Drug Use! [Re: geokills]
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geokills said: I have placed this lengthy thread in here as I feel that PA&L participants are of a mind to contribute thoughtful responses - even in the face of such verbose composition .
Upon being sent a link to a topic in a Teen Support forum relating to subject matter that the person sending me the link thought I might be able to help with.. I found myself inspired to help provide these kids with some useful information. And so, I began composing the following essay last night and would like to receive some feedback from people - what you liked, what you didn't like, what you think should be added in terms of content or links.. smack me around a bit and let me know if this is a good essay or why it isn't!
Thanks in advance
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DRUGS: For the Common Man
To those of you who are considering or are unsure about experimenting with psychoactive substances, and to those of you who might condemn illicit drug use simply because that is what you have been taught, I have a few things for you to think about.
Be comprehensive in your review of the pros and cons of any substance, such that you are aware of the potential risks involved as well as what is to be expected whilst under the influence. Playing with the chemicals in our body and mind is not something to be taken lightly - yet it has been going on for many thousands of years. The practice persists today with people who do not give a second thought to the way they have come to depend upon their drugs of choice.
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A person may consume vast amounts of caffeine (a central nervous system stimulant) be it in their coffee, tea, or soda pop. Or there are those unfortunate souls who have experienced a severe injury or surgery and are prescribed strong narcotic analgesics (“painkillers”) by their doctor to help cope with their physical discomfort, subsequently developing a physical dependence on these highly addictive legally prescribed drugs. This can be seen especially in the elder population, who typically choose to take these drugs over a longer period of time, due in part to a lower tolerance for pain as well as a higher incidence of pain, in conjunction with a lifetime of perceived trust in modern pharmacology and their doctors. Interesting then to note, the active ingredients in many narcotic analgesics are merely extracted chemicals from the opium poppy, the same plant responsible for heroin and black tar opium (and these illicit drugs, having effects not so dissimilar from the narcotic medications handed out by our doctors, though certainly lacking the necessary education and directions for use that a doctor may help provide).
I think you just weaken your point and invite disdain when you include caffeine. I know what it is and does and that people say they "need" their coffee but it's really not germane. You might as well include sugar. Further, I think the bit about prescription drug abuse should not necessarily be combined with the observation that natural street drugs often have prescription analogs. Many abused prescription drugs aren't related to natural street drugs. It should suffice to say that many prescription drugs have abuse potential even when prescribed (see Rush Limbaugh) and that granny may well be a junky, although how this relates to recreational use (which I assume is the point here) escapes me.Quote:
How about the working man coming home from a hard day on the job, to mix himself his whiskey and coke, pour a glass of wine with dinner, or crack open a frosty brew to enjoy in the late afternoon light? I know many intelligent, hardworking, kind people who drink daily - be it one glass or a whole bottle. Successful businessmen, teachers, construction workers, politicians, scientists, people from all walks of life who enjoy the sedative effects that the active chemical in alcohol (ethanol) has in depressing their central nervous system. These people experience a relaxation, often a heightened mood, followed by a tired state; Effects not so far from those of the socially stigmatized marijuana.
Strictly speaking physically, alcohol can create a chemical dependence in heavy users which if not dealt with in a slow and deliberate manner where the abuser tapers their use over time, can kill the alcoholic who quits cold turkey. Though marijuana may create a psychological dependence in its users (such as cravings), the sudden and abrupt cessation of use will never cause death as a withdrawal symptom, nor is it possible to kill oneself from over consumption in a single sitting. These facts alone must make one wonder, how has alcohol - well known for instigating violent and otherwise belligerent behavior (just ask your local bar keep or police officer) - been able to remain legal while marijuana - known for instigating laziness and peaceful inaction - has been kept in the hands of black market dealers and soured through such negative and misguided propaganda?
This is now degenerating into a legalization screed, not what I thought you were trying to do. I don't disagree with a word of it, just that I didn't think that's what the aim was here. Quote:
It is true that an illicit drug such as marijuana can make some people uncomfortable, that it also has a tendency to hinder a user's productivity while under the influence, but these same things can be said of many legal drugs as well. There are plenty of substances which are classified illegal, yet they are not inherently any more dangerous than many of the most common legal drugs such as alcohol and nicotine, and even commonly used cold or allergy medications. In fact, alcohol and nicotine will tax our bodies significantly harder than almost any plant derived psychedelic. Perhaps this is one reason why alcohol was prohibited in the United States from 1920 through 1933. Fortunately (or unfortunately depending upon your perspective), Prohibition was repealed due to the many serious social problems that surfaced, problems which included:- A profitable, often violent, black market for the drug.
- Racketeering where powerful gangs corrupted law enforcement agencies.
- An improperly manufactured drug (i.e. moonshine) which could hurt those who consumed it.
Of course, there are social problems created by alcoholics as well, but in the interests of harm reduction and personal freedom, it became clear that the benefit of a regulated product outweighed the futile attempt to irradicate a substance that cannot be irradicated. How socially irresponsible it is, that the prohibition of other relatively safe substances such as marijuana, psilocybin (mushrooms), and mescaline (cacti) have also resulted in profitable black markets, racketeering, and the proliferation of dangerous misinformation which may cause harm to users who have a hard time finding honest and accurate information for something they will be doing anyway. When a product becomes legal and is therefore regulated, the criminal element is extinguished: black markets dry up and age restrictions can be better enforced, taxes are gained by our legitimate governments (which can in turn be used for rehabilitation in addicted persons as well as risk education for the masses), corruption is unnecessary and no one will have to buy a dangerous and improperly manufactured substance because these substances will be regulated under the Pure Food & Drug Act which governs all of our legal consumables - ensuring with relative certainty that they are indeed safe to consume as directed, and that their potency and appropriate direction for use are always noted on the package.
But this is not about the case for legalizing drugs
So cut them. Just cut them.Quote:
(this essay would become far too long, and indeed, may have already!). The point being made however should still be quite clear. There is a hypocrisy that plagues the actions and advice of those who will enjoy their legal drugs of choice, yet choose to arbitrarily condemn other drugs that carry comparable risks and rewards. I feel that the root of this hypocrisy lies within a fundamental lack of available information that would allow people to make their own informed decisions, in addition to carrying an open dialogue with friends and family free from the inherent bias and social stigma that looms over a topic considered taboo.
I think you know that this is just a distraction. Let's try to keep the little stoners on point, eh? You know what pot-head attention span is don't you? The next butterfly.Quote:
Be sure that you are the one making your decisions, not letting yourself be told how to act, think or feel by another. Advice is valuable but it is still subjective, and it is certainly no substitute for doing your own research and gaining your own understanding. Get opinions, but also get as many facts as you can. Don't be afraid to ask questions of your peers, parents, or teachers. Initiate a discussion, be ready to listen to other perspectives, and realize that there is no "right" or "wrong" when it comes to what we do with our own bodies, though indeed one must always consider the wide variety of consequences for every one of our actions!
Well, there certainly can be self destructive choices.Quote:
To manipulate our conscious experience without harming another is an inalienable right, and is something that all of us do all the time.
This is the first dangerous thing I think you have said. It is very much an alienated right and this fact should be heavily weighed by any would be psychonaut. They can indeed put you in jail for getting high on certain substances and that should never be discounted. Stamping your foot and demanding your right to smoke crack does not work down at the precinct house. Never has, never will.Quote:
Our mind is a chemical factory and every one of our emotions are set aflame through the production of various neurochemicals within our own brain, subsequently coursing through our veins to be delivered into our organs and cells. The rush of dopamine one experiences in the throes of lustful desire, the opioid neuropeptides which act upon the same receptors in our body as heroin and morphine during physical exertion or exercise (often called a "runner's high"), the adrenaline that flows through our blood during extreme excitement or fear; all of these psycho- and physiologically induced chemical reactions are scarcely different in mechanism from the illicit substances that many people enjoy responsibly.
All of our chosen activities will ultimately stimulate our various emotions - be it by way of a lover, heavy exercise, sparkin' up a doob, eating a psychedelic, even insufflating or injecting a stimulant or depressant. Commonly accepted practices such as acupuncture can also induce our body to release certain chemicals into the bloodstream, once again affecting our conscious experience through chemical action. Whether we induce the biological mechanisms within our body through our own internal chemical factory, or we choose to import externally manufactured chemicals into ourselves - the net effect is largely the same and the choice is yours to make.
Of course, it would be foolish to forget that either method of chemical induction carries with it both desirable and undesirable potentials. Addictions can and will manifest both through internal as well as externally induced chemical action. There are people who are addicted to sex because of the dopamine high it produces and there are those who are addicted to the gym or to spicy foods due to the endorphins released during such activity. Then there are the ones who develop physical addictions from repetitive consumption of a substance, such as the 9 to 5er who needs their coffee in the morning to get moving or else has to deal not only with lethargy, but sometimes even a splitting headache (a symptom of acute caffeine withdrawal). There are also those who become so psychologically attached to the complacent comfort of being stoned that they begin to consume their drug of choice on a regular basis simply because "there is nothing better to do".
Are any of these things right or wrong? Yes and no, depending on who you are, your individual goals, and how you want to live your life. Most people would believe that addictions are not healthy, and I would tend to agree that any behavior which one cannot effectively manage or control, is a behavior that will most likely manifest undesirable consequences at some point down the line (in other words, it will come back to bite you in the ass!). So in conclusion, whatever your vice, be it sex, coffee, booze, cigarettes, pot, LSD, mescaline, cocaine, opiates, WHATEVER - remember that balance and moderation are key to healthy living. Above all else, make sure you understand why you are making the choices you are making. Take responsibility for your life, be safe and stay informed.
Finally back on point. Now, I don't know the specific request here but I might have thought they were looking for a plus minus chart on various drugs. Kind of like crystal makes you feel real strong for about 8 hrs and then makes you feel real bad for about 12 and if you keep doing it all your teeth fall out. Or pot hardly does anything and neither will you. Or acid makes you laugh for 8 hours and you have a sore face the next day from smiling for that long. That kind of thing. But you know the request better than I. I'd just leave out the stuff I said to and don't ever let the kids think they can't be sent to a Turkish prison if they get caught. That way lies madness.
I hope this helps and I hope you don't think I'm a dick.
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First thing to note, I had revised the essay while you were composing your reply, so forgive me if my train of thought is a bit disjointed in addressing your points.
> I think you just weaken your point and invite disdain when > you include caffeine. I know what it is and does and that > people say they "need" their coffee but it's really not > germane. You might as well include sugar. > Further, I think the bit about prescription drug abuse should > not necessarily be combined with the observation that > natural street drugs often have prescription analogs. Many > abused prescription drugs aren't related to natural street > drugs. It should suffice to say that many prescription drugs > have abuse potential even when prescribed (see Rush > Limbaugh) and that granny may well be a junky, although > how this relates to recreational use (which I assume is the > point here) escapes me.
I have since slimmed down the concentration on caffeine and narcotic addition in the third paragraph of the essay. I have kept the general theme however, as I feel that it still provides a valuable backdrop which helps to emphasize the addiction potentials of legal substances. I would not equate caffeine to sugar, as from experience with heavy coffee drinkers, I am aware that they often have to deal with fairly significant withdrawal effects when their use stops abruptly. I have never heard of comparable withdrawal effects from sugar. And as this essay is aimed towards fairly young teenagers, I believe they will be able to relate to the topic of caffeine as I'm sure many of their parents are constantly slurpin' down the stuff.
> This is now degenerating into a legalization screed, not what > I thought you were trying to do. I don't disagree with a word > of it, just that I didn't think that's what the aim was here
I suppose the aim of this article is not only to help educate on the matter of self-responsibility and the importance of independent thought and research, but to systematically infer to many of the arguments drug warriors will use to portray drugs negatively, and tackle them with analogous examples, such as alcohol prohibition. This essay was written in reaction to a whole lot of blind ignorance on the subject of responsible drug use, and I feel that if these people can see how similar blanket disapproval of a substance such as alcohol has failed in the past, then perhaps by coming to acknowledge the fact that prohibition does not work, they may also be able to accept the fact that drug use is not going away, and that education towards responsible use is a better way. Check out my original introduction to give you an idea of how I initially planned to open this dialgue (which was quickly axed as upon review it seemed a little hostile, and hostility is not very effective when trying to get people to listen to you ):Quote:
This is my essay, it may be long - but if you are curious about experimentation with psychoactive substances, or you are someone who constantly touts a baseless opposition to such use, I do hope you will read it through and give it some thought. To those who so willfully proclaim to another, the invariable detriment and inherent evils, the irresponsibility and threat to well-being, of the sin in making a personal choice to alter one's consciousness through the use of any given chemical - do you even know why you are saying what you are saying?
Though I am not a regular visitor of this community, only sifting through a few threads today in which unassuming young adults are requesting feedback on their various situations regarding recreational drug use, I am shocked to read such thoughtless and reactionary replies as: "It's not okay to do drugs", or how about: "[It] makes people look down on you", and my favorite: "STUPID PEOPLE SMOKE POTS!"
Are these one-line condemnations and childish insults supposed to inspire a person to make a coherent and educated decision? Without extrapolating upon the reasons why certain drug use may be harmful, or why some people may look down on you for it, I cannot fathom how any human curious of the capacities of their own mind would inexorably renounce their intrigue with drugs upon such a lack of substantive argument.
One may convert a sheep who merely obeys the bark of the head herder with such simple and repetitive propaganda; but have you asked yourself if perhaps you are the sheep in accepting a point of view without an educated and deliberate investigation into the matters surrounding the opinion you hold as truth today?
> I think you know that this is just a distraction. Let's try to > keep the little stoners on point, eh? You know what pot-head > attention span is don't you? The next butterfly.
Hehe, I hear ya - but on the same token, this essay was intended to be directed towards those who have never used or have limited experience with drugs. Those who are regular users, well they'll either have been smart about it, or they will learn the hard way.
>> To manipulate our conscious experience without harming >> another is an inalienable right, and is something that all of >> us do all the time.
> This is the first dangerous thing I think you have said. It is > very much an alienated right and this fact should be heavily > weighed by any would be psychonaut. They can indeed put > you in jail for getting high on certain substances and that > should never be discounted. Stamping your foot and > demanding your right to smoke crack does not work down > at the precinct house. Never has, never will.
Very good point, I got a little preachy there and must have confused my idealism with the state of things as they are. To be fair, I never explicitly stated that manipulating our conscious experience by way of illicit substances was our inalienable right, and even went on to address the naturally occuring chemical systems within our bodies (though indeed, drug use was implied). I have since revised the statement to read: "To manipulate our conscious experience without harming another ought to be encompassed within our rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." The entire second half of the essay has been reorganized for improved clarity.
> Finally back on point [...] I hope you don't think I'm a dick
- not at all! I appreciate you taking the time to read and provide some constructive criticism on my composition. It has certainly helped me refine portions of the essay, and I believe it reads much clearer as a result. (If anyone wants to confirm or deny my suspicions, I'm all eyes! )
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I think it's better now. You've heard me, now let's see if anybody else wants editorial royalties. (There are royalties involved, right? I'll PM my address)
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Royalties!?! Hrmm.. I suppose we could strike a deal - what is 10% of nothing, anyway?
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Re: DRUGS: For the Common Man ··· (editorial review requested) [Re: geokills]
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great essay, i really enjoyed your points on why you think psychoactives are looked down upon the way they are by societies means
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Re: DRUGS: For the Common Man ··· (editorial review requested) [Re: razmablues]
#6517829 - 01/31/07 08:06 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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wow i promised myself i would never invest such time in 1 single shroomery thread.. but that was really quiet an entertaining read..
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Re: DRUGS: For the Common Man ··· (editorial review requested) [Re: Banez]
#6519917 - 02/01/07 01:43 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks for the feedback - keep it comin'! I aim to submit this article to various educational organizations, both brick and mortar as well as online in the virtual world, so if you have any ideas on how to provide more or better information in a clear format, please speak!
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Re: DRUGS: For the Common Man ··· (editorial review requested) [Re: geokills]
#6519973 - 02/01/07 02:08 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Great essay! I read it in the pub, but couldn't find it anymore.
I really like this part:
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To manipulate our conscious experience without harming another ought to be encompassed within our rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. After all, our mind is a chemical factory and every one of our emotions are set aflame through the production of various neurochemicals within our own brain, subsequently distributed through our circulatory system and into our organs and cells. The rush of dopamine one experiences in the throes of lustful desire, the opioid neuropeptides which act upon the same receptors in our body as heroin and morphine during physical exertion or exercise (often called a "runner's high"), the adrenaline that courses through our blood during extreme excitement or fear; all of these psycho- and physiologically induced chemical reactions are scarcely different in mechanism from the illicit substances that many people enjoy responsibly. Even certain types of acupuncture can cause our body to release chemicals into the bloodstream by way of outside influence, once again affecting our conscious experience.
Whether we induce the biological mechanisms within our body through our own internal chemical factory, or we choose to import externally manufactured chemicals into ourselves - the net effect is largely the same and the choice is none other than your own to make.
I can't come up with something constructive right now! I think it's great, but maybe too long if you want many people to read it. It's sad, but most people don't want to read more than a few sentences
Maybe add a few subtitles(I don't really see where and how though) or a picture if possible, just to make it more appealing for those people who don't like to read.
Good job!
Edited by Annom (02/01/07 02:12 PM)
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Re: DRUGS: For the Common Man ··· (editorial review requested) [Re: Annom]
#6521082 - 02/01/07 07:43 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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First of all, I really enjoyed reading this essay. Without blooming drug use, you still were able to trigger an open mind towards drugs. Also did it contain information that I did not know about, which really gave some prove to why I should think for myself.
This essay triggered a response from my side to put it on my list of things to study. I have a website with my own studies and I think this would fit nicely in there. I thank you for that.
I have no facts about this so it could be wrong, but maybe you could make a few sentences about the fact that our own brain makes DMT. Showing that psychedelic drugs are not as ‘hard’ as they are said to be. Again this would give them something new, something they didn’t know and thus something to think about.
Again I would like to add that you did a great job with this essay. *thumb up*
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Re: DRUGS: For the Common Man ··· (editorial review requested) [Re: Annom]
#6525964 - 02/03/07 10:35 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks for the positive comments Annom + Schiz.
I have indeed been battling with the fact that this composition is rather lengthy - and while I do recognize that its length will probably result in many people dismissing the essay entirely, I feel that cutting out any of the discourse would be a disservice to the overall sentiments I'm attempting to convey. I want to be comprehensive, to provide an air-tight presentation that helps people understand the many facets of this sensitive issue.
Perhaps I should compose a condensed version reading one to three paragraphs, strictly as an introduction to the complete document - to catch interest and thereby drive those who are serious, to proceed into the meat of the full disclosure. But on the converse, that is one to three more paragraphs they will have to read to absorb the complete message!
Shiz, your idea about incorporating our natural production of DMT is a fine idea. I will ponder on this suggestion a bit more; at the moment however, I'm not sure that I want to potentially confuse the reader by adding in another piece of information (and thereby making the damn thing even longer! )... but it is a solid idea that falls in line with what I'm trying to get at in this writing to be sure! The major problem I see is that most people will not know what DMT is, and therefore I will have to go on a detailed aside to inform them of its existance, before I can make the connection with the fact that we produce it naturally.
More opinions?
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Re: DRUGS: For the Common Man ··· (editorial review requested) [Re: geokills]
#6526054 - 02/03/07 11:11 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't think you would necessarily have to be too elaborate in describing DMT. You could simply state, for instance, that "DMT, an illegal psychadelic, is produced naturally in the human brain". I mean, that was really brief, but I think it illustrates that only a basic amount of information on it will convey the point well enough for anyone unfamiliar with it to understand. Perhaps they will research into it further, propelled by the fact that our brain produces it on its own, and yet we have made it illegal to consume.
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Re: DRUGS: For the Common Man ··· (editorial review requested) [Re: geokills]
#6526449 - 02/03/07 01:02 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think it makes a smooth read ofd acceptable length.
Too bad however that you take all this interesting stuff and then take it down the old worn out path of marijuana legalization.
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Physiologically speaking, alcohol can create a chemical dependence in heavy users which if not dealt with in a slow and deliberate manner where the abuser tapers their use over time, can kill the alcoholic who attempts to quit cold turkey. Though marijuana may create a psychological dependence in its users (cravings and desire), the sudden and abrupt cessation of use will never cause death as a withdrawal symptom, nor is it possible to kill oneself from over consumption in a single sitting. These facts alone must make one wonder, how has alcohol - known for instigating violent and otherwise belligerent behavior (just ask your local bar keep or police officer) - been able to remain legal while marijuana - known for instigating laziness and peaceful inaction – has been kept in the hands of black market dealers and soured through such negative social propaganda?
This is the paragraph that will make hesitant conservatives go "oh Christ its a marijuana article" and you do come across like a marijuana activist in it.
That makes it too easy to dismiss your words as pot activist "crap", and you will lose readers there. You have a nice thing going for doubting conservatives about social drugs and prescription drugs, but that opportunity goes to waste by you then addressing the marijuana issue from the oh so familiar angle.
Sounding like a marijuana advocate is a major turnoff for many people you'd want to reach.
Go easier on the injustice against marijuana, and aside from painkillers include tranquilizers and antidepressants as well, because everyone from all walks of life knows someone who benefits or struggles with these legitimately prescribed pharmaceuticals.
If you toss alcohol, painkillers, tranquilizers and antidepressants in one heap and lay some emphasis on the increased quality of life these may give, you can then casually remark that things like marijuana, though far from harmless, likewise increase quality of life for some, but that at a comparatively lower risk. The "though far from harmless" thing will make it harder to disqualify you as a weed activist.
People skeptical of drugs don't want marijuana to be glorified, but you'll catch their attention to also briefly remark that marijuana has problems of its own. This will make you come across as a "drug realist" (which you are) and the effect you'd want is that people contra AND pro finally get real on drugs instead of glorifying or dooming them.
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Re: DRUGS: For the Common Man ··· (editorial review requested) [Re: fireworks_god]
#6526455 - 02/03/07 01:05 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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And unlike Fireworks_god I would also say:
AVOID THE WORD "PSYCHEDELIC" AT ALL COST because it will destroy your credibility. Call it "hallucinogens", it is less correct but more people are at ease with that word than with "psychedelic" which has a distinct 60s, dayglo, drop-out-of-everything flavor.
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Re: DRUGS: For the Common Man ··· (editorial review requested) [Re: Asante]
#6526469 - 02/03/07 01:09 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well yeah, I was simply saying the first thing that came to mind. I basically implied "don't say that, but convey that basic idea". Hallucinogen is a better term than psychadelic. Actually, both carry with them negative connotations from the perspective of the uninformed, and entheogen would quite likely be the best word to represent drugs such as marijuana, mushrooms, peyote, and DMT.
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Re: DRUGS: For the Common Man ··· (editorial review requested) [Re: fireworks_god]
#6528963 - 02/04/07 05:32 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well written and an enjoyable read, I think it'll hold well against those sitting on the fence about the drugs issue. I wouldn't hold much hope for the severely anti-drug but little would change their minds anyway, after all it is impossible to change the opinions of someone who refuses to accept logical reason or beneficial change because they are too set in their ways. I wouldn't hesitate telling people to read this and I have to agree with Wiccan_Seeker you don't want to shoot yourself in the foot (especially when doing so well), stick with neutral terms. It has to be something they can relate to in order for them to take in and actually give it the time of day, otherwise they'll just shrug it off. I think it could do with a touch less emotion, you get a bit passionate about one or two topics and this may indicate to them that you are biased towards favouring drug use, this may harm your credibility. They want to be informed, preaching doesn't work. But this just IMHO. As I said I enjoyed the article, it has both rarities of weight and value in a society that embraces ignorance. Keep it up!
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Re: DRUGS: For the Common Man ··· (editorial review requested) [Re: j3ckyl]
#6529193 - 02/04/07 08:38 AM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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personally i think it shouldn't stray much from how it is right now... unlike W_S i' rather you DID come off as taking a side. while some readers might consider it "tainted" because of that i believe most will benefit from getting information from that POV! otherwise you're just staying on the fence and basically saying "whatever" :shurg:
in regards to DMT however i'd say you should avoid the mention of it simply because it's much too esoteric to a non "drug" person and even if they did hear about it somewhere they probably group it along with the worse drugs out there.
and maybe you can somehow emphasize the subject of choice and experimentation, since most people try new drugs out of curiosity before they actually find a "reason" or "benefit" to a certain drug. and on the same token you should also mention the fact that psychedelic drugs change your mind set, feelings and perceptions on who you are and what you experience!
all in all it was a good essay, make sure you link us if you post it on some foreign board, i'd love to read the replays
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Re: DRUGS: For the Common Man ··· (editorial review requested) [Re: Simisu]
#6530302 - 02/04/07 02:34 PM (17 years, 1 month ago) |
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Interesting to note, the active ingredients in many narcotic analgesics are merely extracted chemicals from the opium poppy, the same plant responsible for heroin and black tar opium (and these illicit drugs, though lacking the necessary education and directions for responsible use, exhibit effects not dissimilar from the narcotic medications handed out legally)
I wouldn't call it black tar opium, I could be wrong but I have never heard anyone use this term except in the context of fake opium, also the majority of codeine is actually synthesized from morphine. So only 1 drug is really extracted from opium, and its not all that common in pill form compared to other opioid pills on the market. Neither of those are really wrong though, just for the record. Also, it doesn't really have all that much information about drugs either, its almost entirely about drug politics, and as already mentioned its way too bias. As for the size of the article, I think its actually too short. You would just have to cut it up into sections to make it easier to access.
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