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Making some sort of hallucinogen?
    #6411459 - 12/30/06 08:03 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I'm expecting this to be complete and utter bullshit, but I heard from a friend of mine that he made acid(wtf) out of toothpaste and orange peels, and letting them sit mixed up together in a dark shoebox for 2 weeks(WTF).

This isn't a dude who makes shit up, that's why I'm even asking about it on here.

Does anyone know if these two combined will create any type of hallucinations?


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you talking about the child porn? I can explain that... it's my nephew.

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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: skeeter]
    #6411465 - 12/30/06 08:05 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

No.

lol


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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: skeeter]
    #6411466 - 12/30/06 08:05 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

.......why not just eat mushrooms? haha sorry im just imagining bringing a girl over to my place then pulling out an orange peel toothepaste slurry and saying drink up


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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: Newport101]
    #6411472 - 12/30/06 08:06 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

This reminds me of the time my friend found a "mushroom seed" in his bag and he tripped out for 5 days ;\

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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: skeeter]
    #6411476 - 12/30/06 08:08 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

now come on, put the bong down a minute,
and think a minute.


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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: Shlewm]
    #6411477 - 12/30/06 08:09 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah, it sounds like the bannanadyne myth.

I can't see any way that toothpaste, or orangepeel would contain any ergot alkaloids.


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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: skeeter]
    #6411478 - 12/30/06 08:09 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

:lol:
Yeah didn't think it would do anything, just curious, but too lazy to try it myself.:shrug:


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you talking about the child porn? I can explain that... it's my nephew.

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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: wiggles]
    #6411480 - 12/30/06 08:09 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

lol @ first post

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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: skeeter]
    #6411485 - 12/30/06 08:10 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

dude never eat anything thats been laying around for two weeks, you'll probably die.

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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: nolongerinuse]
    #6411502 - 12/30/06 08:15 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

i once made acid out of pure sugar and distilled water.

i tripped soooo hard.


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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: skeeter]
    #6411509 - 12/30/06 08:17 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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skeeter said:
:lol:
Yeah didn't think it would do anything, just curious, but too lazy to try it myself.:shrug:




uh

you would TRY something like this to SEE if it works?

what the fuck is wrong with some peoples kids. fuck.


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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: wiggles]
    #6411524 - 12/30/06 08:22 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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wiggles said:
No.

lol



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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: despisedicon]
    #6411531 - 12/30/06 08:24 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Haha.


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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: goodolgoogy]
    #6411604 - 12/30/06 08:50 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

One time this kid told me that you could make acid by sticking a Starburst into a half of an orange, then wrapping it in foil and setting it in a sunny windowsill.

But then I graduated from Middle School.:rofl:

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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: truffleupagus]
    #6411613 - 12/30/06 08:54 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

It works, but only as a suppository...


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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: omnicrap]
    #6412047 - 12/30/06 10:29 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

make sure you post a trip report after someone tries it. :hehehe:

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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: daytripper05]
    #6412068 - 12/30/06 10:34 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

:naughty:





BTW fucktards who think im gonna do it or something....yeah im not, was never going to.:shrug:


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you talking about the child porn? I can explain that... it's my nephew.

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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: skeeter]
    #6412329 - 12/30/06 11:54 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Has, he been hitting the bong form the wrong side? :rolleyes:


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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: Brainiac]
    #6412421 - 12/31/06 12:42 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I heard this too. I told the guy he was an idiot, he told me he tripped off 'em obviously a lie I could see from a mile away

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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: confusion]
    #6412972 - 12/31/06 09:30 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

All my time searching for acid, and this is the way...toothpaste and orange peels...it's a miracle. :commonsense:
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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: hcrider]
    #6413052 - 12/31/06 10:11 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

It has to be AIM Plaque control and its not oranges its grapefruit...kids these days.





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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: tihkalpihkal]
    #6413093 - 12/31/06 10:27 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: VampireSlayer]
    #6413580 - 12/31/06 01:43 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Ohhh, I shouldn't even say this because I don't condone this kind of stupidity in any way shape or form. Grow some mushrooms!

This discussion has come up before on another forum. A couple of people said they tried it and it worked. This was inbetween a lot of flaming of the idea and whatnot.

I don't know how well it works, and I'm not about to try to find out, but this is something that they do in prison when the real stuff isn't around.

Please don't do it.


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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: flower_child]
    #6415180 - 01/01/07 09:36 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah I do agree with the dude that posted before me..
Except I have no knowledge of this being used in prison..
Only Juvie...;)

When a friend of mine was in there 2 of the staff asked him about it, "because I figured you would know" And atleast 4 of the other dudes asked him about it..
He heard different variations on the preperatory methods, such as; with and without toothpaste.
He had a cell mate that told him that he tried it, and that it worked.
It got me thinkin that maybe the mold (for some reason I think I heards somethin about green mold) Could possibly contain LSA in high concentrations..
But then he told me it only lasted like five minutes, and the experience he described sounded nothing like my LSA experiences..
I read this in the anarchists cookbook along with the smokin bannana peels and toad skin methods.
I know that the toad skin myth has some factual basis, but I just cant recall to what extent.
Smokin Bufo Alvarius skins trips you out for a bit but is stupid cause why kill the goose who lays the golden egg?
Anyways, I find it very plausible that this is simply a myth made up during someones stay in a federal hotel..
Cause during my friends stay, he found it interesting that one of few objects that a juvenile inmate has access to is toothpaste, toothpaste and oranges.
Bannas and apples too, damn too bad I didnt have any matches I could have smoked me some bannana peels! Thatd rocked..

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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: learysprotoge]
    #6415227 - 01/01/07 10:17 AM (17 years, 3 months ago)

It could just be some type of mold that happens to like citrus fruits and is fucking TOXIC! That is not totally improbable, it shure as hell aint acid or lsa that ends up in that shit.

You might get high from leaving something to mold and then eat it. You might also get reeeelly really dead, wouldn't that be fucking cool :rockon: !!!

The most reasnoble thing to think is that your friend is a moron...


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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: Nalim]
    #6415930 - 01/01/07 04:34 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

LSD-25 is the 25th derivitive from ergot. do you really think all that would occur naturally in a shoebox?


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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: Nalim]
    #6415958 - 01/01/07 04:48 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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It could just be some type of mold that happens to like citrus fruits and is fucking TOXIC! That is not totally improbable . . .




Exactly what I was thinking. I'm sure if you ate enough poisonous molds you'd find at least a few that made you hallucinate (while experiencing other symptoms of toxic delerium).

Odium, I don't think the "25" has much relevance to the first poster. Ergot alkaloids occur naturally in a number of fungi imperfecti, ascomycetes, basidiomycetes, and higher plants.

It would be funny if it just happened to accidentally be true to some extent, that some ergot alkaloid producing organism just happened to prefer orange peels and toothpaste.

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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: Nalim]
    #6415964 - 01/01/07 04:51 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Nast said:
It could just be some type of mold that happens to like citrus fruits and is fucking TOXIC! That is not totally improbable . . .




Exactly what I was thinking. I'm sure if you ate enough poisonous molds you'd find at least a few that made you hallucinate (while experiencing other symptoms of toxic delerium).

Odium, I don't think the "25" has much relevance to the first poster. Ergot alkaloids occur naturally in a number of fungi imperfecti, ascomycetes, basidiomycetes, and higher plants.

It would be funny if it just happened to accidentally be true to some extent, that some ergot alkaloid producing organism just happened to prefer orange peels and toothpaste.

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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: Chemiker]
    #6416088 - 01/01/07 05:44 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

That shit dont work, this does, but be carefull with this shit, its strong, and you will trip hard for hours. Its the cat piss tek, and yes ive been here too long.
By the way CP stands for catpiss, and many can vouch for this tek

Obtain one gallon of pure CP. Pour into pot and mix with one pint of pure grain alcohol (195 proof) Mix well. Freeze the mixture. The water will freeze and rise. Take ice layer off after 24 hours. The resulting mixture will be the pure grain alcohol with the essential CP alkaloids (determine the trip) Place this mixture on an electric stove (keep away from flames) and turn the knob to medium. When most of the alcohol has evaporated, place the resulting fluid in a flask (a glass will do) Let this evaporate normally, when all alcohol has evaporated, scrape the resulting powder (crust form) into gel-caps or a ziplock bag and store in a dark cool and dry place. This CP.250 extract will not degrade for years under said conditions. (CP.250 has been tested under laboratory condition, and has been found to range between 248-256 times the strength, but the cumulative average is always 250)

Enjoy!

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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: resin]
    #6416292 - 01/01/07 06:52 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

I read somewhere that common brands of toothpaste contain 4-TM.

A short acting psychedelic ( when smoked)

Maybe where this comes from? (the myth I mean)


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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: resin]
    #6418583 - 01/02/07 02:47 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

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resin said:
That shit dont work, this does, but be carefull with this shit, its strong, and you will trip hard for hours. Its the cat piss tek, and yes ive been here too long.
By the way CP stands for catpiss, and many can vouch for this tek

Obtain one gallon of pure CP. Pour into pot and mix with one pint of pure grain alcohol (195 proof) Mix well. Freeze the mixture. The water will freeze and rise. Take ice layer off after 24 hours. The resulting mixture will be the pure grain alcohol with the essential CP alkaloids (determine the trip) Place this mixture on an electric stove (keep away from flames) and turn the knob to medium. When most of the alcohol has evaporated, place the resulting fluid in a flask (a glass will do) Let this evaporate normally, when all alcohol has evaporated, scrape the resulting powder (crust form) into gel-caps or a ziplock bag and store in a dark cool and dry place. This CP.250 extract will not degrade for years under said conditions. (CP.250 has been tested under laboratory condition, and has been found to range between 248-256 times the strength, but the cumulative average is always 250)

Enjoy!




WTF?      :woot:
Do you have any real factual ground for this? I've read quite a lot about alkaloids and active chems and never coma across a paper on this..
I doubt this "tek" very strongly.. Anyhow what active chems are supposed to be in catpiss?


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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: Nalim]
    #6418975 - 01/02/07 04:47 PM (17 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Nast said:
Quote:

resin said:
That shit dont work, this does, but be carefull with this shit, its strong, and you will trip hard for hours. Its the cat piss tek, and yes ive been here too long.
By the way CP stands for catpiss, and many can vouch for this tek

Obtain one gallon of pure CP. Pour into pot and mix with one pint of pure grain alcohol (195 proof) Mix well. Freeze the mixture. The water will freeze and rise. Take ice layer off after 24 hours. The resulting mixture will be the pure grain alcohol with the essential CP alkaloids (determine the trip) Place this mixture on an electric stove (keep away from flames) and turn the knob to medium. When most of the alcohol has evaporated, place the resulting fluid in a flask (a glass will do) Let this evaporate normally, when all alcohol has evaporated, scrape the resulting powder (crust form) into gel-caps or a ziplock bag and store in a dark cool and dry place. This CP.250 extract will not degrade for years under said conditions. (CP.250 has been tested under laboratory condition, and has been found to range between 248-256 times the strength, but the cumulative average is always 250)

Enjoy!




WTF?      :woot:
Do you have any real factual ground for this? I've read quite a lot about alkaloids and active chems and never coma across a paper on this..
I doubt this "tek" very strongly.. Anyhow what active chems are supposed to be in catpiss?




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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: skeeter]
    #15056718 - 09/10/11 03:54 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

so as to what this makes i have absolutely no idea but the exact method that i and many others have used is "shove your thumb in the top of the orange, stick the toothpaste top into the hole you just made and squeeze until you cant fit any more, then let sit in a warm place for 19 days(dont ask why 19 it just fucking works after that many days), take the grennish grey mold that fills the inside and eat about a spoonful, puking has accord on a couple of occasions at the beginning(the taste most likely), the effects are like when you snort 60Mg of MDMA and chew on an eighth of some liberty cap mushrooms(some of the best i ever got) at the same time(like the peak of the trip) but it only lasted about an hour a dose...ive done it afew times so have most of the guys in my gang, we all heard it from the older guys about how to trip in juvie/jail/prison in fact our jail doesnt give out oranges for just this reason...WARNING!!!! my best friend ended up in the hospital from doing to much of this stuff, it ate away his stomach lining and now he cant have certain foods and he almost died( he ate the whole orange in one day) never do more than two spoonfuls a week and this shit will keep for about a week after the 19 day mark after that it starts to grow a white mold that smells like an old car battery and burn like methyl ethyl keytone(like pouring bleach in your nose) so end of story the shit works along the same lines as mushrooms not acid and all in all its ok for a once for shits and giggles type of deal or to prove that this shit works.

So, have fun, stay safe and for the love of god have a person with you whenever you do any for of hallucinogen.

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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: Em-T]
    #15056948 - 09/10/11 06:52 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

:doublefacepalm:


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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: Em-T]
    #15057021 - 09/10/11 07:45 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

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Em-T said:
so as to what this makes i have absolutely no idea but the exact method that i and many others have used is "shove your thumb in the top of the orange, stick the toothpaste top into the hole you just made and squeeze until you cant fit any more, then let sit in a warm place for 19 days(dont ask why 19 it just fucking works after that many days), take the grennish grey mold that fills the inside and eat about a spoonful, puking has accord on a couple of occasions at the beginning(the taste most likely), the effects are like when you snort 60Mg of MDMA and chew on an eighth of some liberty cap mushrooms(some of the best i ever got) at the same time(like the peak of the trip) but it only lasted about an hour a dose...ive done it afew times so have most of the guys in my gang, we all heard it from the older guys about how to trip in juvie/jail/prison in fact our jail doesnt give out oranges for just this reason...WARNING!!!! my best friend ended up in the hospital from doing to much of this stuff, it ate away his stomach lining and now he cant have certain foods and he almost died( he ate the whole orange in one day) never do more than two spoonfuls a week and this shit will keep for about a week after the 19 day mark after that it starts to grow a white mold that smells like an old car battery and burn like methyl ethyl keytone(like pouring bleach in your nose) so end of story the shit works along the same lines as mushrooms not acid and all in all its ok for a once for shits and giggles type of deal or to prove that this shit works.

So, have fun, stay safe and for the love of god have a person with you whenever you do any for of hallucinogen.



:laugh2:  i think i just pissed my pants! i'm sorry kid, but that's some of the funniest shit i think i've ever read!i hope they don't stop selling oranges because of this, we're all gonna get scurvy! :laugh2: btw, that greenish grey mold is most likely penicillium, and no, you don't want to eat it! :puke:  :scat:


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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: Han Jeremy]
    #15057462 - 09/10/11 10:44 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

This myth may have originated from a part of PiHKAL, where Shulgin describes a potential way to synth cannabinoids, not LSD, from orange peel and some other substances.  I remember hearing years ago that moldy orange peels will make you trip but I think its probably safe to assume they do not.

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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: drr]
    #15057574 - 09/10/11 11:15 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

It's awesome how a troll brought back a 5 year old troll thread.
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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: Subconscious]
    #15057590 - 09/10/11 11:19 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Tricked again.


Troll necrophilia

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Re: Making some sort of hallucinogen? [Re: drr]
    #15057611 - 09/10/11 11:24 AM (12 years, 7 months ago)

He might have made acid. At least one acid, but not LSD.

You see, acid is a molecule that can give a proton. LSD can give a proton, that's why it's an acid.

Your guy might not have been someone that talk shit. Now he is.


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