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How to hypnotise somebody into liking you (without them realising!)
    #6303144 - 11/20/06 05:15 PM (8 years, 7 days ago)

How to hypnotize somebody into liking you (without them realizing!)

Eye Contact
Blink when they blink
Sit how they are sitting
Hold your hands the same way
Smoke when they smoke
Breath when they breath

You get the principle!

Ask them to imagine they are doing something they enjoy.  Maybe ask them to imagine they are in their favorite place or get them to recall a memory of experiencing something really good like a holiday for instance.

As they remember they will feel a excitement that they felt when they were there.  You can now Associate this feeling with yourself.  A method i like is by subtlety pointing to yourself by touching / scratching your chin but it works with any consistent movement.  if the circumstances are right then you can touch the subject (leisurely on the arm) to make the anchor (association) even stronger.

You now have the ability to make your subject feel that sense of excitement when you touch your chin (perform the anchor maneuver).  When the conversation leads to talk of yourself - perform the anchor maneuver again and your subject has now been successfully hypnotized into liking you!


Of course, the principals here are just skimming the surface but if you didn't know them already then welcome to the wonderful and dangerously powerful world of mind control! :laugh:  :evil:


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Re: How to hypnotise somebody into liking you (without them realising!) [Re: Ego Death]
    #6303582 - 11/20/06 07:52 PM (8 years, 7 days ago)

that is only one of many ways to hypnotize someone, and in fact it's a small element called "Matching."

Other techniques when used in conjunction will multiply the effects. This includes reading eyes, micro-expressions and ambiguous words that distract focus and allow you to slide in commands that seems more like questions. Of course, this is all just half of the pie, and the other half is subconscious suggestion, which is another animal.


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Re: How to hypnotise somebody into liking you (without them realising!) [Re: Ego Death]
    #6303818 - 11/20/06 09:05 PM (8 years, 7 days ago)

Of course, this stuff does not make one a 'master hypnotist,' it makes one a sleazy manipulator and it only works with individuals with a very undeveloped self-reflective awareness. It does not make anyone like you, it only attempts to elicit some basic emotionally-cued associations. Televangelists, 'snake oil' salesmen and motivational speakers use these techniques and more - healers do not (with the possible exception of a 'hand-on-back, breathing-together' technique).

If you believe that 'power' can elicit 'love' then you are truly clueless about human nature. This mentality, taken to an extreme, is the type that can stoop to dropping Rohypnol tablets into a girl's drink when she is not looking and other types of unethical sneak attacks.

The 'working state' of hypnosis (somnambulism) requires a degree of trust on the part of the subject, and subjects do not violate their own sense of ethics. Sleazy manipulators may not know this, make inappropriate suggestions to an entranced subject and get only uncomfortable squirms, not some Svengalian control (loook, look into my eyes...you are in my power...muahh ha ha ha!!!!!)


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Re: How to hypnotise somebody into liking you (without them realising!) [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #6303876 - 11/20/06 09:26 PM (8 years, 7 days ago)

The message you communicate

with an other human being

has nothing to do with what you say

it has nothing to do with the look

on the musculature of your face

It's much deeper than that

much deeper!

It's the vibrations

that emanate from you!


.

.

And you realize that every moment you are

a full statement of your being

and your sending out vibrations that are

affecting everything around you,

which in turn is affecting

everything that comes back

and

when you meet somebody who is

caught in the world of

WE and THEM and you are HIM

to that person

and you get caught in his mind net

you are both

just

intensifying

one another's

paranoia.


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Re: How to hypnotise somebody into liking you (without them realising!) [Re: Revelation]
    #6303890 - 11/20/06 09:29 PM (8 years, 7 days ago)

honestly, does this stuff work?


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Re: How to hypnotise somebody into liking you (without them realising!) [Re: distgre1]
    #6303900 - 11/20/06 09:33 PM (8 years, 7 days ago)

The stuff in the original post is common social psychology. Yes, it works. We do lots of research on it, and it has been demonstrated time and again. I recommend picking up a good social psychology textbook.

As for vibrations...that likely factors in, but it's not the sole determinant.


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Re: How to hypnotise somebody into liking you (without them realising!) [Re: Revelation]
    #6304295 - 11/20/06 11:52 PM (8 years, 7 days ago)

Quote:

Revelation said:
The message you communicate

with an other human being

has nothing to do with what you say

it has nothing to do with the look

on the musculature of your face

It's much deeper than that

much deeper!

It's the vibrations

that emanate from you!


.

.

And you realize that every moment you are

a full statement of your being

and your sending out vibrations that are

affecting everything around you,

which in turn is affecting

everything that comes back

and

when you meet somebody who is

caught in the world of

WE and THEM and you are HIM

to that person

and you get caught in his mind net

you are both

just

intensifying

one another's

paranoia.




Exactly. BE HERE NOW.


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Re: How to hypnotise somebody into liking you (without them realising!) [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #6304945 - 11/21/06 04:53 AM (8 years, 7 days ago)

Quote:

MarkostheGnostic said:
Of course, this stuff does not make one a 'master hypnotist,' it makes one a sleazy manipulator and it only works with individuals with a very undeveloped self-reflective awareness.




i would have to disagree 100%. it works on almost everyone.. in fact works better on "intelligent" people.


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Re: How to hypnotise somebody into liking you (without them realising!) [Re: kotik]
    #6305453 - 11/27/06 07:25 PM (8 years, 16 hours ago)

Oh, it doesn't simply define one as a "sleazy manipulator?" It sure does. This sort of thing does NOT work with intelligent people as I perceive intelligence, it does not work with "almost everyone" since that is an absurd number of people to posit this about. It might work with similarly unethical people, unreflective people or patently narcissistic people who seek to be led into behaviors that they signal interest in.

Hypnosis, like drugs, can be used for healing, for recreation or for manipulation - like dropping Rohypnol in someone's drink and raping them. I see hypno-suggestive techniques as being an attenuated form of the third type - a type of violation, but then, I am an ethical practitioner of hypnosis and hypnotherapy.


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Re: How to hypnotise somebody into liking you (without them realising!) [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #6306854 - 11/28/06 07:19 AM (8 years, 4 hours ago)

Quote:

MarkostheGnostic said:
Oh, it doesn't simply define one as a "sleazy manipulator?" It sure does. This sort of thing does NOT work with intelligent people as I perceive intelligence, it does not work with "almost everyone" since that is an absurd number of people to posit this about. It might work with similarly unethical people, unreflective people or patently narcissistic people who seek to be led into behaviors that they signal interest in.




I beg to differ! It most certainly works with intelligent people (as subjective as that term is...) In fact, it works better on smart people than on dumb people, since at least smart people are observant (whether it be conscious or not).

The only people this will not work on, are people that know and understand the techniques, so they can identify when someone is trying to persuade them using what I would call guerrilla tactics (or better yet, Jujutsu's Ki/Qi, using an opponents own actions and momentums against them).

Regardless, all the more reason to know the techniques, if for nothing else, then self-knowledge and self defense.


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Edited by kotik (11/28/06 07:27 AM)


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Re: How to hypnotise somebody into liking you (without them realising!) [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #6307307 - 11/28/06 12:52 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

>If you believe that 'power' can elicit 'love'

Don't get all personal!!! The reason i wrote this;

>>> welcome to the wonderful and dangerously powerful world of mind control!

Was because i feel people should be aware of mind control techniques or else they can remain unaware and let themselves be controlled. Seems you missed the point though.

i think your categories are funny. So you are either a 'master hypnotist' or a 'sleazy manipulator'. Without being too judge-mental i would like you to define the difference. i expect you to say one helps people and the other works for personal gain. However, there's so many stories of hypnotists ending up doing something for personal gain...

People are just people. They aren't set in stone and anybody can fall foul of negative thoughts and emotions at any point in time. its just wether or not you choose to act on those thoughts that determines the outcome of any given situation.


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Re: How to hypnotise somebody into liking you (without them realising!) [Re: kotik]
    #6319593 - 11/29/06 11:04 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

it works on almost everyone

I would agree with you that there are ways of approaching a person, you have never met, to make them like you. However, if you already have a relationship with some one, and you dis-like them....there is nothing they could say or do to make you like them.

Your theory only works in certain situations.....therefore is not a guarantee


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Re: How to hypnotise somebody into liking you (without them realising!) [Re: niteowl]
    #6320504 - 11/30/06 06:55 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

agreed, if someone already knows you well, the methods will not work the same.


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Re: How to hypnotise somebody into liking you (without them realising!) [Re: kotik]
    #6322944 - 11/30/06 11:35 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

It's interesting, but I question why would you even bother if you were genuine? Surly its much more respectable and honorable to have someone like you for just being your natural self, without any such intentions.


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Re: How to hypnotise somebody into liking you (without them realising!) [Re: Amethyst]
    #6323115 - 12/01/06 12:35 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Why would anyone really want to do this? You are not making the person like "you". Why would someone want to spend time trying to elicit simple reactions instead of cultivating true love?


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Re: How to hypnotise somebody into liking you (without them realising!) [Re: matchbook]
    #6323384 - 12/01/06 06:38 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

why? seriously?

contract negotiations
business meetings
dealing with salesmen
dealing with authority / police
dealing with angry customers
one-night stands

do i really have to list more?


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Re: How to hypnotise somebody into liking you (without them realising!) [Re: Revelation]
    #6324510 - 12/01/06 04:13 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

Revelation said:
The message you communicate

with an other human being

has nothing to do with what you say

it has nothing to do with the look

on the musculature of your face

It's much deeper than that

much deeper!

It's the vibrations

that emanate from you!


.

.

And you realize that every moment you are

a full statement of your being

and your sending out vibrations that are

affecting everything around you,

which in turn is affecting

everything that comes back

and

when you meet somebody who is

caught in the world of

WE and THEM and you are HIM

to that person

and you get caught in his mind net

you are both

just

intensifying

one another's

paranoia.




What a beautiful piece of literature.

One almost draws the conclusion that the separation of specific words in such an orderly fashion has some subliminal effect. Just theorizing.


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Re: How to hypnotise somebody into liking you (without them realising!) [Re: moho456]
    #6338704 - 12/06/06 12:19 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

I use this sort of technique all the time for my mentalism routines. Except I learned it as 'neuro-lingustic programming'... Very useful stuff!

And I agree, it's a good thing to learn, even just as self defense... Sales men, politicians, cult leaders etc... use it all the time, it becomes pretty hard to miss once you're aware of it. It Can definetly be abused.


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Edited by LuSiD9 (12/06/06 12:20 AM)


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Re: How to hypnotise somebody into liking you (without them realising!) [Re: LuSiD9]
    #6338725 - 12/06/06 12:23 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

and don't forget about the guys who host their own radio shows about how to use NLP to pick up women.  :grin: :tongue:

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Re: How to hypnotise somebody into liking you (without them realising!) [Re: AlteredAgain]
    #6343079 - 12/07/06 02:28 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

This post makes me sad. You should really try to think in another way.

I wont say much else just so it doesnt seem like Im trying to do anything "bad". Whatever that may be.

Peace, Love, Understanding, are the roads to take. Please do. :heart:


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