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 treko8687
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 sterilizing a casing mix 
#6241640 - 11/03/06 12:04 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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can you sterilize a casing mix of vermiculite, peat moss and calcium carbonate inside a jar in a pot of boiling water for an hour or two without any problems? and would using miracle grows peat moss be a bad idea?
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 RogerRabbit
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Re: sterilizing a casing mix [Re: treko8687]
#6241675 - 11/03/06 12:16 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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My pasteurization tek.
RR
Pasteurization tek
Load the pre-moistened to field capacity casing mix, compost or manure into quart mason jars. Place a lid and/or foil over the top. Put the jars into a large covered pot of cold water, with the water filled to 2/3 to ¾ of the way up the jars. A large kettle or pressure cooker works well. If necessary, put a plate or some other weight over the jars to prevent them from floating. Make sure you have a spacer or dishtowel under the jars to prevent the direct heat of the stove burner or flame from cracking your jars. Place the lid on the pot and turn on the stove. Bring the water to a boil, but watch over it and as soon as the water actually reaches a boil, shut off the stove, but leave the pot sitting on the burner. The preceding is for an electric stove that will remain hot for a little while after shutting off power. If you use gas, allow the water to boil for one to two minutes before shutting off the stove. After a couple of hours when they’ve cooled, the jars can be removed and used.
The first time or two you use this technique, monitor the interior of your jars with a meat thermometer. Place it right into the center of the peat or compost. You want to make sure the center of the jar reaches at least 140F and stays there for an hour, but don’t allow it to exceed 170F. Depending on the thickness and capacity of your kettle and lid, you may need to adjust the above times slightly. This tek works because glass is an insulator, so the temperature inside the jars lags the water in the kettle. When I use the above procedure with 7 full quart jars in my All American 921, it comes out perfectly just as written. If you use a smaller pot, you may need to turn the stove on briefly at the ½ hour mark for a few minutes.
The advantage to this tek is there is no pillowcase, etc., to drain and little to no mess or stink is made in your kitchen or pressure cooker. The disadvantage is you have a bunch of jars to wash when you’re done.
RR
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Re: sterilizing a casing mix [Re: RogerRabbit]
#6241703 - 11/03/06 12:26 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Darn you RR . I was waiting for you to say how sterilizing a casing mix doesn't work , lol 
I've got new pics and data I'm dieing to share 
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Re: sterilizing a casing mix [Re: RogerRabbit]
#6241721 - 11/03/06 12:30 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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thanks... is compost a better choice then peat moss? does compost need a buffer?
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Re: sterilizing a casing mix [Re: treko8687]
#6241753 - 11/03/06 12:40 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
treko8687 said:
thanks... is compost a better choice then peat moss? does compost need a buffer?
Compost is a substrate , not a casing material .
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Re: sterilizing a casing mix [Re: treko8687]
#6241774 - 11/03/06 12:45 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Just my 2cents -- Instead of a dishtowel, I use aluminium foil rolled up like a mesh #.
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Re: sterilizing a casing mix [Re: kinrui]
#6241813 - 11/03/06 12:55 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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How nessacary is sterlizing your casing??
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Re: sterilizing a casing mix [Re: Grogan]
#6241834 - 11/03/06 01:02 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Grogan said:
How nessacary is sterlizing your casing??
It isn't needed,most people pasteurize instead,thats all I have ever done
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Re: sterilizing a casing mix [Re: Grogan]
#6241902 - 11/03/06 01:17 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Grogan said:
How nessacary is sterlizing your casing??
It's a personal choice .
I just get tired of hearing it doesn't work . How it opens the door for contams .
I've lost 1 casing out of about 80 so far this year through the heat of summer since I switched to sterilizing over pasteurizing . I don't know if there is a lot of trich spores in the air where I live , but I see green shit growing outdoors allover , lol .
Sterilizing makes it real easy to store also
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Re: sterilizing a casing mix [Re: HippieChick]
#6241930 - 11/03/06 01:26 AM (6 years, 7 months ago) |
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I can attest to the effectiveness of RR's technique. I've been doing the same thing in my pressure cooker ever since I first read about the method, and I haven't had a problem yet.
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 Re: sterilizing a casing mix [Re: HippieChick]
#17916658 - 03/07/13 01:30 AM (3 months, 10 days ago) |
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"but I see green shit growing outdoors allover" laughed out loud..me too!
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Re: sterilizing a casing mix [Re: Irish75]
#17916689 - 03/07/13 01:40 AM (3 months, 10 days ago) |
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you bumped a six year old thread for that? nice bump though i guess
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