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str8
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shrooms that make u laugh alot? hmmmm???
#6241408 - 11/02/06 09:13 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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which variaty makes u laugh uncontroalably on the most consistant basis... not intrested in theories of "dose more or less, and settings" kinda crap. just opinions of people who really swear by it.
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badreligion2good
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Re: shrooms that make u laugh alot? hmmmm??? [Re: str8]
#6241429 - 11/02/06 09:17 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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Psilocybe Cubensis... all the different strains have the same actives in them, producing the same potential effects. The effects you experience are directly related to your current mental state, your setting, the people you're around,body chemistry and god knows what else.
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yageman
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Re: shrooms that make u laugh alot? hmmmm??? [Re: str8]
#6241449 - 11/02/06 09:21 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hows this for a theory......
Cubes contain all the same chemicals. Different amounts of the three main chemicals all become psilocin in the gut.....
Sorry for the "theory".
Please understand why this is true. They all can make you laugh alot, including other species than cubes.
I know which ones made me laugh the most, but it really doesnt matter, because it was the same as the rest.
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Edited by yageman (11/02/06 09:22 PM)
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Animals
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Re: shrooms that make u laugh alot? hmmmm??? [Re: str8]
#6241477 - 11/02/06 09:25 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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str8 said: which variaty makes u laugh uncontroalably on the most consistant basis... not intrested in theories of "dose more or less, and settings" kinda crap. just opinions of people who really swear by it.
are you serious?
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yageman
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Re: shrooms that make u laugh alot? hmmmm??? [Re: Animals]
#6241517 - 11/02/06 09:33 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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Animals said:
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str8 said: which variaty makes u laugh uncontroalably on the most consistant basis... not intrested in theories of "dose more or less, and settings" kinda crap. just opinions of people who really swear by it.
are you serious?
Im not sure....lol
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Brainiac
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Re: shrooms that make u laugh alot? hmmmm??? [Re: badreligion2good]
#6241520 - 11/02/06 09:33 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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badreligion2good said: Psilocybe Cubensis... all the different strains have the same actives in them, producing the same potential effects. The effects you experience are directly related to your current mental state, your setting, the people you're around,body chemistry and god knows what else.
So true,So true
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evolprim
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Re: shrooms that make u laugh alot? hmmmm??? [Re: str8]
#6241916 - 11/02/06 11:21 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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actually morels will make you laugh the most
edit: the ones with blue paint on them that is
Edited by evolprim (11/02/06 11:21 PM)
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psychonautix
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Re: shrooms that make u laugh alot? hmmmm??? [Re: evolprim]
#6242308 - 11/03/06 02:12 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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it is so wierd how certain factors cause such huge differences in trips...
sometimes my trips are extremely goofy and silly, other times they are very self-critical, and still other times everything looks like art/unfamiliar and the world is beautiful, and sometimes its all that.
I cant figure out why it happens that way... but it does.
Taking mushrooms is like rolling dice for me, sometimes I get good times, and sometimes my mind goes down the drain and I feel like crap.
I think I need a new set of tripping friends...
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Asante
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Re: shrooms that make u laugh alot? hmmmm??? [Re: str8]
#6242406 - 11/03/06 05:01 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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not intrested in theories of "dose more or less, and settings" kinda crap.
So, instead of hearing out the community you just want to hear what you want to hear?
Agaricus bisporus crack me up.
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Limerick
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Re: shrooms that make u laugh alot? hmmmm??? [Re: str8]
#6242461 - 11/03/06 06:01 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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"everyone's a fuckin comedian!"
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Syyslehti
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Re: shrooms that make u laugh alot? hmmmm??? [Re: Asante]
#6242470 - 11/03/06 06:06 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've noticed a significant difference in effects between certain patches. Not as significant as say between mushrooms and acid, but still a difference.
Yes, psilocybin and psilocin are the main actives in shrooms, but too little study has been made that I would swear for my life that's the whole truth. Maybe some not-known other ingredients in shroom or variety-depending structure of shroom tissue effect how fast psilocybin is metabolized and absorbed, or maybe proportional amounts of other psychoactive tryptamines in shroom can cause that slight push to the other direction needed to cause a noticeably different experience in an influence-sensitive psychedelic mind.
As far as I know, it's not even certain that all psilocybin is dephosphorylated into psilocin in digestive system. It may have psychoactive properties on it's own.
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Edited by Syyslehti (11/03/06 06:15 AM)
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Asante
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Re: shrooms that make u laugh alot? hmmmm??? [Re: Syyslehti]
#6242551 - 11/03/06 07:01 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've noticed a significant difference in effects between certain patches. Not as significant as say between mushrooms and acid, but still a difference.
That may be a placebo effect, or it may be something real.
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As far as I know, it's not even certain that all psilocybin is dephosphorylated into psilocin in digestive system. It may have psychoactive properties on it's own.
You're right about that, in fact you can just about depend on it that dephosphorylation, for the extent it happens, won't be complete by the time it reaches the blood-brain barrier. There people say Psilocybin will not cross, but once again: we can't be certain of that.
Butter Yellow, Thalidomide, Diethylstilbestrol, MPTP, Dioxin.. Pharmacology has been full of completely nasty surprises which proved that many "facts" were assumptions which proved to be wrong.
Perhaps Psilocybin passes through the BBB like water through a colander. Perhaps do certain mushroom enzymes in the stomach enviroment turn psilocybin into another molecule, so that even without other actives present species might in fact vary.
Too little is known.
Our friend the threadstarter perhaps won't read our discussion because he just wants a name to get fucked up on instead of "theories". He's cheating himself out of deeper insight, such a waste.
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TMshroom
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Re: shrooms that make u laugh alot? hmmmm??? [Re: Asante]
#6242554 - 11/03/06 07:05 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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All shrooms make you laugh. If you are looking to laugh just smoke some weed with your friends and go all out. Start telling idiotic jokes and dont be self concious. There is your recipe for extreme laughter.
Laugh really comes from your set/setting, if you feel happy and are in presence of good company then your comeup will probably give you stomach pains from all the laughter. If you were feeling down the whole day, the come-up may be sort of quiet and uncomfortable.
Its all about set-setting with shrooms, not some specific shroom. Get that thru your thick skulls people, SET AND SETTING!!!!! damn
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Asante
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Re: shrooms that make u laugh alot? hmmmm??? [Re: str8]
#6242558 - 11/03/06 07:07 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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For helpfulness' sake:
The Gymnopilus spectabilis
Is known in asia as the o-warai-take (Big Laughing Mushroom) and amung shroomhunters as the Big Laughing Gym. With laughter in its common name, this might be the right mushroom for you.
You must however acquire a specific variety because some strains are inactive.
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Asante
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Re: shrooms that make u laugh alot? hmmmm??? [Re: TMshroom]
#6242561 - 11/03/06 07:11 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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Get that thru your thick skulls people, SET AND SETTING!!!!! damn
He's going to be stubborn. He might need a trip so bad that he's down on the bathroom floor begging God almighty to either deliver him from his nightmare or smite him with thunder.
Eventually people either learn to respect the mushroom and the vague hippie ramblings surrounding it, or they quit shrooms altogether.
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TMshroom
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Re: shrooms that make u laugh alot? hmmmm??? [Re: Asante]
#6242576 - 11/03/06 07:20 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well when one is on the bathroom floor begging God to deliver him from his nightmare......I think its time to talk to someone. There are tons of hotlines, and pretty much everyone has atleast 1 friend....or a buddy even. Shit find a chatroom and spill your guts to a random bot! :-P
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ShroomScape
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Re: shrooms that make u laugh alot? hmmmm??? [Re: TMshroom]
#6242733 - 11/03/06 08:43 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hmm... I was going to start another thread for this, but hopefully I don't have to.
along these same lines, is it possible to have a batch of shrooms that have 'bad vibes'? What I mean is, my two friends tripped off the batch 3 times each and not one of those trips was great (though none of them were down right horrible either). I attributed their lack of a good time to their sets and settings. But then I took it and I also didn't have a great time, nor was it a bad time. Has anyone ever experienced batches of homegrown shrooms to have bad vibes?
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TMshroom
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Re: shrooms that make u laugh alot? hmmmm??? [Re: ShroomScape]
#6242798 - 11/03/06 09:10 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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ShroomScape said: Hmm... I was going to start another thread for this, but hopefully I don't have to.
along these same lines, is it possible to have a batch of shrooms that have 'bad vibes'? What I mean is, my two friends tripped off the batch 3 times each and not one of those trips was great (though none of them were down right horrible either). I attributed their lack of a good time to their sets and settings. But then I took it and I also didn't have a great time, nor was it a bad time. Has anyone ever experienced batches of homegrown shrooms to have bad vibes?
Heres what i think happened: Your friends had bad trips due to set and settings, and they kept talkin about how these mushrooms have a "bad vibe". So when you took those mushrooms in the back of your head you were already sub-consiously thinking that these mushrooms have a bad vibe to them...therefore you've experienced a bad vibe asweel.
Imagine yourself alone in some dark basement, and your friends told you that there is a ghost in there. So you're sitting there thiking FUCK im here with a ghost, and then your mind starts playing trick on you, you start hearing "sounds", maybe feel like the temp went down a few degrees and so on.
Once again, it comes down to.....SET and Setting. no? Your set is "this is bad vibes batch", the outcome: bad vibes trip.
Unless you want to belive these were some evil mushrooms, they were probably mistreated as kids or possesed by bad vibes as pins, so they decided to be fucked up to anyone who is gonna eat them......now please re-read this paragraph one more time, and then again. Is this what you wanted to hear?
Fuck all logic, go evil mushroom!
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kaniz
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Re: shrooms that make u laugh alot? hmmmm??? [Re: ShroomScape]
#6242827 - 11/03/06 09:21 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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You know, my logic tells me that 'the strains have the same active chemicals, therefore should have the same effects'.
However, from personal expierence, this has made me go 'hrmmm' on more than one occasion and thinking that its more than simply set and setting playing a role in things.
I tend to buy my mushrooms in bulk, so I tend to trip quite a bit off of the same batch - and have noticed that some batches share 'unique' qualities within the batch for every trip off of that batch, that are not as present (or present at all) with trips from other batches.
For example - this past summer, I had one batch which was probably the most 'unique' batch I tripped off of. I did doses on this batch up to 6g, and every trip - regardless of set/setting, shared the same qualities
- Very few visuals in the 'normal' mushroom sense. Instead, it was like reality had been run though a high-def edge-detection filter. I could see crisp/clear lines/edges on EVERYTHING, every little bit of a fower, every blade of grass. It wasnt the typical cartoony-morphing of mushrooms that I normally get. The headfuck was non-present, instead : extreme mental clarity, lots of insight, very easy to have 'deep' conversations (even at higher doses, where at times with other batches, audio distortions get so high I cant carry on a conversation).
Again, I probably tripped off of this batch about 5 times in total with various sets/settings, and always had the exact same trip. (from going to an outdoor party, to in a club, to going for a hike, to 'doing an at home high dose trip for self reflection' kind of thing).
Later on, while nearing the end of the batch - I picked up another batch of different stuff. Totatly different trip then the previous batch, and again - this one had a bunch of 'qualities' to the trips that remained constant though the trips regardless of set/setting.
Then, I finished off the 1st batch I mentioned - and again, same qualities that - crisp defined visuals, no swelling, no morphing, no 'reality going cartoony'
While generally speaking - mushrooms are mushrooms are mushrooms, and the factors that do affect the trip can be reduced down to set/setting, there have been times (like above) which makes me think that there is something else going on then just set/setting.
ie: there have been certain batches which have given me a heavier body load (consistent in each trip with that batch) which had not been present in the previous, or the batch after.
Now, if I was simply buying 'by the trip' and getting a new batch for /every/ trip, I'd be inclined to say 'oh, its purely a matter of set/setting', but when I have a series of trips from one batch that has something 'unique' to it which isnt present in trips from the batches before/after, it does make me go 'hrmmm', and not so quick to write it off as simply being related to set/setting
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evolprim
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Re: shrooms that make u laugh alot? hmmmm??? [Re: kaniz]
#6242856 - 11/03/06 09:32 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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that's interesting kaniz.
its quite likely that different type of shrooms give different trips. after all different weed all contains THC but we cant say its all the same. not enough research has been done on this topic and the only thing we have to go off is personal experience like kaniz's.
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