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LSD Synthesis Tek
    #6225737 - 10/30/06 01:22 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

I am posting this tek on behalf of a user who wishes to remain anonymous. -Y

People need to be very careful, explosions and fatal poisoning is not uncommon.

A) Get a source for Claviceps Purpurea fungus

If no source can be found, you can make a field trip to obtain it from rye or other cereal grasses. Rye grass is the best choice. The ergot will appear as a blackish growth on the tops of the rye where the seeds are. They are approximately the same shape as the seeds and are referred to as "heads" or "ergot". From these heads or ergot sprout the Claviceps Purpurea fungi.
They have long stems and bulbous heads when viewed under a strong glass or microscope. It is these that must be removed from the ergot, free from contamination, and used to inoculate the culture material.

B) Make a culture medium

Combine the following ingredients in about 500 ml distilled water in a 2 L small-neck flask:

Sucrose 100 g
Chick pea meal 50 g Calcium nitrate 1 g Ca(NO3)2 Monopotassium phosphate 0.25 g KH2PO4 Magnesium sulphate 0.25 g MgSO4 Potassium chloride 0.125 g KCl Ferrous sulphate heptahydrate 8.34 mg FeSO47H20 Zinc sulphate heptahydrate 3.44 mg ZnSO47H20

Add water to make up one liter
Adjust to pH 4 with ammonia solution and citric acid
Sterilize by autoclaving

C) Make a culture

Inoculate the sterilized medium with Claviceps Purpurea under sterile conditions, stopper with sterilized cotton and incubate for two weeks, periodically testing and maintaining pH 4. After two weeks a surface culture can be seen on the medium. Large-scale production of the fungus can now begin.

D) Large-scale production

Obtain several ordinary 1 gallon jugs.
Place a two-hole stopper in the necks of the jugs.
Fit a short (6 inch) tube in one hole, leaving two inches above the stopper. Fit a short rubber tube to this. Fill a small (500 ml) Erlenmeyer flask with a dilute solution of sodium hypochlorite (NaClO). Extend a glass tube from the rubber so the end is immersed in the hypochlorite.
Fit a long glass tube in the other stopper hole. It must reach near the bottom of the jug and have about two inches showing above the stopper. Attach a rubber tube to the glass tube and fit a short glass tube to the end of the rubber tube.

Fill a large glass tube (1" x 6") with sterile cotton and fit one-hole stoppers in the ends. Fit the small glass tube in the end of the rubber tube into one stopper of the large tube. Fit another small glass tube into the other stopper. A rubber tube is connected to this and attached to small air pump (obtained from a tropical fish store).
With this aeration equipment you can assure a supply of clean air to the Claviceps Purpurea fungus while maintaining a sterile environment inside the solution.
Dismantle the aerators. Place all the glass tubes, rubber tubes, stoppers and cotton in a paper bag, seal tightly with wire staples and sterilize in an autoclave.
Fill the 1-gallon jugs 2/3 to 3/4 full with the culture medium and autoclave.
While these things are being sterilized, homogenize in a blender the culture already obtained and use it to inoculate the material in the gallon jugs. The blender must be sterile.

EVERYTHING must be sterile.

Assemble the aerators. Start the pumps. A slow bubbling in each jug will provide enough oxygen to the cultures. A single pump may be connected to several filters.
Let everything sit at room temperature (25 C) in a dark place (never expose ergot alkaloids to bright light - they will decompose) for a period of ten days.
After ten days, adjust the culture to 1% ethanol using 95% ethanol under sterile conditions. Maintain growth for another two weeks.

E) Extract ergot alkaloids

After a total of 24 days growth period, the culture should be considered mature. Make the culture acidic with tartaric acid and homogenize in a blender for one hour.
Adjust to pH 9 with ammonium hydroxide and extract with benzene or chloroform/iso-butanol mixture.
Extract again with alcoholic tartaric acid and evaporate in a vacuum to dryness.
The dry material is the salt (the tartaric acid salt, the tartrate) of the ergot alkaloids, and is stored in this form because the free basic material is too unstable and decomposes readily in the presence of light, heat, moisture, and air.
To recover the free base for extraction of the amide or synthesis to LSD, make the tartrate basic with ammonia to pH 9, extract with chloroform, and evaporate in vacuo.

#4: Synthesis of LSD from ergot alkaloids or LSA
(including sections on isomerization, separation, purification & crystallization)

NOTE: the chemicals and reactions described below are potentially dangerous even to an organic chemist in a well-equipped laboratory.
The publishers therefore disclaim responsibility for any damage or injury resulting from the improper handling of the chemicals and techniques described, and strongly urge all persons unqualified to perform the reactions to use instead the comparatively easier, safer ergot culture and LSA extraction process.

A) Synthesis of LSD (iso- & dextro-lysergic acid diethylamide)

PREPARATORY: obtain one red and one yellow photographic safety light and one weak, long-wave ultraviolet light. These are used to prevent the hydrolysis of lysergic acid compounds.
NOTE: Aluminum foil must be used to cover the chemicals when light is present. Rubber gloves must be worn; these compounds are extremely poisonous.
[The source implies but does not state that one may replace "ergot alkaloid" in the following with the seed-derived semi- pure LSA concentrate from #2. --Ed.]

USING YELLOW LIGHT:
Place one volume of ergot alkaloid in a small roundbottom flask. Add 2 volumes of anhydrous hydrazine and reflux for 30 minutes, or the mixture may be heated in a sealed tube at 112 Celsius for 30 minutes. If the reflux technique is used, maintain atmospheric pressure by using an open container or fractionating column.
After heating/refluxing, add 1.5 volumes of water to the mixture and boil gently for 15 minutes. After boiling is complete, cool the mixture in a refrigerator until solidification. The solid material obtained is iso-lysergic acid hydrazide.
USING RED LIGHT:
Chill all chemicals (reagents) to be used to 0 Celsius. Place an open flask in an ice bath. Add 100 ml concentrated hydrochloric acid (chilled to 0 C).
Quickly add 2.82 g of the lysergic acid hydrazide to the hydrochloric acid, being careful to maintain a temperature of 0 Celsius.
Add 100 ml of a 0.1 N (1/10th Normal) solution of sodium nitrite (chilled to 0 C) and stir vigorously for 3 minutes.
Continue stirring at 0 Celsius and add dropwise 130 ml of the hydrochloric acid.
When the acid addition is complete, continue stirring for 5 minutes, then neutralize the solution with sodium bicarbonate, using a saturated water solution of the bicarbonate.
Extract the solution with ether, remove the water layer, and dissolve the gummy substance in ether. Add this to the ether layer.
Add 3 g of diethylamine for every 30 ml of the ether extract.
Let this stand in the dark, and gradually warm up to 20 Celsius for at least 24 hours.
Evaporate this solution in a vacuum.
The material remaining is a mixture of the inactive iso-lysergic acid diethylamide and the active lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD-25). The inactive isomer must now be converted (isomerized) to the active isomer to greatly increase the yield, since the inactive compound predominates in this synthesis.

B) Isomerization of iso-LSD into the active LSD-25

USING THE RED LIGHT:
Dissolve the synthesized material into the minimum amount of ethyl alcohol.
Mix a 4 Normal solution of potassium hydroxide in ethanol. The amount of solution needed is twice the volume of the iso-LSD/ethanol solution.
Add the two solutions together and let the mixture sit for 4 hours at room temperature.
Neutralize the mixture with dilute hydrochloric acid, then make it slightly basic with ammonium hydroxide.
Extract the mixture with chloroform, sparate the chloroform layer, and extract this four times with a 25% volume of water.
Evaporate the chloroform in a vacuum. Discard the water extracts. The material left after evaporation a mixture of iso-LSD and LSD-25, the active LSD predominating.
The mixture may now be separated by chromatography and the iso-LSD again isomerized by the above process.

C) Separation, purification & crystallization of LSD-25

USING A DARKROOM:
The material obtained from the isomerization process is now dissolved in a solution prepared from 3 parts benzene/1 part chloroform. Use 50 ml solvent per 1 gram LSD material.
Mix a slurry basic alumina in benzene. Pack it into a 1 inch chromatoghraphy column until it fills 6 inches.
When the slurry settles, drain the benzene/chloroform down to the level of the basic alumina, and carefully add an equal amount of the LSD/solvent solution.

USING A WEAK, LONG-WAVE ULTRAVIOLET LIGHT: (to follow the blue band only)
Drain the solution through the column. The fastest-moving, blue fluorescent band contains the LSD-25. Collect this fraction and evaporate in a vacuum. The syrup remaining will crystallize spontaneously, but slowly. Do not heat.
Use the UV light only whe necessary to follow the blue band in order to avoid decomposition of the compounds.
Dissolve the syrup or crystal in tartaric acid solution and recrystallize to form the stable end-product (dextro lysergic acid diethylamide tartrate).
The material remaining in the column may be removed with methanol, evaporated in a vacuum, and recycled through the isomerization and subsequent procedures by itself or combined with fresh material. Also, all leftover solutions and residues may be neutralized with socium bicarbonate, evaporated in vacuo, and extracted with ammoniacal chloroform, the extract evaporated to dryness, and the residue reused.

#5: Preparation of lysergic acid from the amide

NOTE: this synthesis is as difficult and dangerous as the rest, and is of use only if using one of the following two LSD synthesis methods, which require lysergic acid as the starting compound. The lysergic acid amide obtained from the extract of ergot or seeds need not be converted to the acid prior to its use in the synthesis of LSD providing that the synthesis used is #4 given above, and giving the starting material "ergot alkaloid".

Dissolve 10 g lysergic acid amide in 200 ml methanolic potassium hydroxide solution.
Remove the methanol by vacuum as soon as the amide is dissolved.
Dissolve the residue which is left into 200 ml of an 8% solution of potassium hydroxide in water.
Heat this mixture on a steam bath for 1 hour.
Pass a steam of nitrogen gas through the flask during the heating process. (The ammonia which is evolved in the gas stream may be titrated with hydrochloric acid in order to follow the reaction.)
Neutralize the mixture with tartaric acid (neutral to congo red) and run it through a filter paper.
Extract the mixture with ether in a separatory funnel. Save the water layer, discard the ether layer.
Filter the solution through a filter paper and evaporate.
Upon evaporation, dry crystals of lysergic acid will be obtained.

#6: Synthesis of LSD using lysergic acid the quickest way to make pure LSD-25 PREPARATORY: see #4
NOTE: The chemicals and techniques described are potentially dangerous. It is highly recommended that the physical and chemical properties of the reagents used be studied by those persons unfamiliar with them before the synthesis is attempted.

USING THE YELLOW LIGHT:
5.36 g of d-lysergic acid are suspended in 125 ml acetonitrile, and the suspension is cooled to about -20 Celsius in a bath of acetone cooled with dry ice.
To the suspension is added a cold (-20 C) solution of 8.82 g of trifluoracetic anhydride in 75 ml acetonitrile. The mixture is allowed to stand at -20 C for about 1 1/2 (one and one-half) hours.
(During this time the suspended material dissolves and the d-lysergic acid id converted to the mixed anhydride of lysergic and trifluoracetic acids.)
The mixed anhydride can be separated in the form of an oil by evaporating the solvent in vacuo at a temperature below about 0 Celsius.
Everything must be kept anhydrous.

USING THE RED LIGHT:
The solution of mixed anhydrides in acetonitrile from above is added to 150 ml of acetonitrile containing 7.6 g of diethylamine.
The mixture is held in the dark at room temperature for about 2 hours.
The acetonitrile is evaporated in vacuo, leaving a residue of LSD-25 plus impurities.
The residue is dissolved in 150 ml of chloroform and 20 ml of ice water.
The chloroform layer is removed and the aqueous layer is extracted with several portions of chloroform. The chloroform portions are are combined and, in turn, washed with four 50 ml portions of ice-cold water.
The chloroform solution is then dried over anhydrous sodium sulfate and evaporated in vacuo.
NOTE: following the completion of this synthesis, follow the procedures described for separation, purification, and crystallization of LSD-25. If a higher yield is desired, follow the procedure on isomerization after doing the separation, purification, and crystallization.

#7: Synthesis of LSD using lysergic acid high-yielding and fast

PREPARATORY: see #4
NOTE: The chemicals and techniques described are potentially dangerous. It is highly recommended that the physical and chemical properties of the reagents used be studied by those persons unfamiliar with them before the synthesis is attempted.
NOTE: the following procedure gives good yield and is very fast, with little iso-lysergic acid being produced. However, the stoichiometry must be exact or yields will drop

USING WHITE LIGHT:
Sulfur trioxide is produced in an anhydrous state by carefully decomposing anhydrous ferric sulfate at approximately 480 Celsius. Store under anhydrous conditions.
USING WHITE LIGHT:
A carefully-dried 22 liter RB flask fitted with an ice bath, dropping funnel, and mechanical stirrer is charged with 10 to 11 liters of dimethylformamide (freshly distilled under reduced pressure).
The condenser and dropping funnel are both protected against atmospheric moisture.
2 lb. of sulfur trioxide (Sulfan B) are introduced dropwise, very cautiously with stirring, during 4 to 5 hours. The temperature is kept at 0-5 Celsius throughout the addition.
After the addition is complete, the mixture is stirred for 1 to 2 hours until some separated crystalline sulfur trioxide- dimethylformamide complex has dissolved.
The reagent is transferred to an air-tight automatic pipette for convenient dispensing, and kept in the cold. Although the reagent, which is colorless, may change to yellow and red, its efficiency remains unimpaired for three to four months in cold storage.
An aliquot is dissolved in water and titrated with standard NaOH to a phenolphthalein end point.

USING RED LIGHT:
A solution of 7.15 g of d-lysergic acid monohydrate (25 mmol) and 1.06 g of lithium hydroxide hydrate (25 mmol) in 200 L of MeOH is prepared.
The solvent is distilled on the steam bath under reduced pressure.
The residue of glass-like lithium lysergate is dissolved in 400 ml of anhydrous dimethyl formamide.
From this solution, about 200 ml of the dimethyl formamide is distilled off at 15mm pressure through a 12-inch helices packed column.
The resulting anhydrous solution of lithium lysergate left behind is cooled to 0 Celsius and, with stirring, treated rapidly with 500 ml of SO3DMF solution (1.00 Molar).
The mixture is stirred in the cold for 10 minutes and then 9.14 g (125.0 mmol) of diethylamine is added.
The stirring and cooling are continued for 10 minutes longer, when 400 ml of water is added to decompose the reaction complex.
After mixing thoroughly, 200 ml of saturated aqueous saline solution is added. The amide product is isolated by repeated extraction with 500 ml portions of ethylene dichloride.
The combined extract is dried and then concentrated to a syrup under reduced pressure. Do not heat the syrup during concentration. The LSD may crystallize out, but the crystals and the mother liquor may be chromatographed according to the instructions in the synthesis of LSD #4.


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Re: LSD Synthesis Tek [Re: Ythan]
    #6225760 - 10/30/06 01:41 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Excellent guide. Easy to understand even with a basic knowledge of chemistry.


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Re: LSD Synthesis Tek [Re: Gastronomicus]
    #6227639 - 10/30/06 07:41 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

I would think #4, using LSA from say HBWR as the staring material, would not be that difficult for someone with a couple semesters of organic chemistry and access to a lab. Nothing too closely watched for this synthesis I don't think. Which makes me think it might not work, because it does not sound hard enough and if it was that easy lots of people would be making it like they do meth.


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Re: LSD Synthesis Tek [Re: AmericaOnLSD]
    #6227729 - 10/30/06 08:03 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah I wonder about that too. I will be taking a chem degree after I'm done this one, I'll give my opinion then!


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    #6228543 - 10/30/06 10:44 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

sounds pretty good to me. consider the difficulties of extracting the ergot and having all of the materials as the difficult points that keep people away from making it. meth is significantly easier. A couple of farm raised hicks with a cookbook and access to Walmart can make meth


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Re: LSD Synthesis Tek [Re: Ythan]
    #6228745 - 10/30/06 11:24 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: LSD Synthesis Tek [Re: Dark_Star]
    #6229507 - 10/31/06 02:52 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Would using hydergine or bromocriptine supplement for the ergot, since both are easily accessible and come from ergotamine?


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    #6230061 - 10/31/06 10:11 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Yea, definitely an excellent guide, reads particularly well as a procedure, as opposed to a chem journal. I'm assuming that this is pulled from TiHKAL, and fleshed out by someone with chemical knowledge.

Some of these chemicals it appears can be found easily enough in your local home depot, or chemical supply warehouse

http://www.chemistrystore.com/

And the ones I can't immediately find, i'm sure with more googling will show up. Be careful though, i'm sure if you order all the precursors all at once, you will show up on a list, since it'll become obvious to what your doing.

Also check local state laws, places like texas made it illegal to order chemistry supplies

http://wired.com/wired/archive/14.06/chemistry_pr.html

Another excellent site
http://www.unitednuclear.com/chem.htm


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Re: LSD Synthesis Tek [Re: Ythan]
    #6230080 - 10/31/06 10:23 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

This part of the production pathways is the cream of the crop:



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A) Get a source for Claviceps Purpurea fungus

If no source can be found, you can make a field trip to obtain it from rye or other cereal grasses. Rye grass is the best choice. The ergot will appear as a blackish growth on the tops of the rye where the seeds are. They are approximately the same shape as the seeds and are referred to as "heads" or "ergot". From these heads or ergot sprout the Claviceps Purpurea fungi.
They have long stems and bulbous heads when viewed under a strong glass or microscope. It is these that must be removed from the ergot, free from contamination, and used to inoculate the culture material.

B) Make a culture medium

Combine the following ingredients in about 500 ml distilled water in a 2 L small-neck flask:

Sucrose 100 g
Chick pea meal 50 g Calcium nitrate 1 g Ca(NO3)2 Monopotassium phosphate 0.25 g KH2PO4 Magnesium sulphate 0.25 g MgSO4 Potassium chloride 0.125 g KCl Ferrous sulphate heptahydrate 8.34 mg FeSO47H20 Zinc sulphate heptahydrate 3.44 mg ZnSO47H20

Add water to make up one liter
Adjust to pH 4 with ammonia solution and citric acid
Sterilize by autoclaving

C) Make a culture

Inoculate the sterilized medium with Claviceps Purpurea under sterile conditions, stopper with sterilized cotton and incubate for two weeks, periodically testing and maintaining pH 4. After two weeks a surface culture can be seen on the medium. Large-scale production of the fungus can now begin.

D) Large-scale production

Obtain several ordinary 1 gallon jugs.
Place a two-hole stopper in the necks of the jugs.
Fit a short (6 inch) tube in one hole, leaving two inches above the stopper. Fit a short rubber tube to this. Fill a small (500 ml) Erlenmeyer flask with a dilute solution of sodium hypochlorite (NaClO). Extend a glass tube from the rubber so the end is immersed in the hypochlorite.
Fit a long glass tube in the other stopper hole. It must reach near the bottom of the jug and have about two inches showing above the stopper. Attach a rubber tube to the glass tube and fit a short glass tube to the end of the rubber tube.

Fill a large glass tube (1" x 6") with sterile cotton and fit one-hole stoppers in the ends. Fit the small glass tube in the end of the rubber tube into one stopper of the large tube. Fit another small glass tube into the other stopper. A rubber tube is connected to this and attached to small air pump (obtained from a tropical fish store).
With this aeration equipment you can assure a supply of clean air to the Claviceps Purpurea fungus while maintaining a sterile environment inside the solution.
Dismantle the aerators. Place all the glass tubes, rubber tubes, stoppers and cotton in a paper bag, seal tightly with wire staples and sterilize in an autoclave.
Fill the 1-gallon jugs 2/3 to 3/4 full with the culture medium and autoclave.
While these things are being sterilized, homogenize in a blender the culture already obtained and use it to inoculate the material in the gallon jugs. The blender must be sterile.

EVERYTHING must be sterile.

Assemble the aerators. Start the pumps. A slow bubbling in each jug will provide enough oxygen to the cultures. A single pump may be connected to several filters.
Let everything sit at room temperature (25 C) in a dark place (never expose ergot alkaloids to bright light - they will decompose) for a period of ten days.
After ten days, adjust the culture to 1% ethanol using 95% ethanol under sterile conditions. Maintain growth for another two weeks.

E) Extract ergot alkaloids

After a total of 24 days growth period, the culture should be considered mature. Make the culture acidic with tartaric acid and homogenize in a blender for one hour.
Adjust to pH 9 with ammonium hydroxide and extract with benzene or chloroform/iso-butanol mixture.
Extract again with alcoholic tartaric acid and evaporate in a vacuum to dryness.
The dry material is the salt (the tartaric acid salt, the tartrate) of the ergot alkaloids, and is stored in this form because the free basic material is too unstable and decomposes readily in the presence of light, heat, moisture, and air.
To recover the free base for extraction of the amide or synthesis to LSD, make the tartrate basic with ammonia to pH 9, extract with chloroform, and evaporate in vacuo.

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But the chemistry section that follows can be considered obsolete.
From here on you should use the Phosphorus oxychloride method as detailed by Shulgin, where the ergoloid tartrates of the above process are used in place of Ergotamine tartrate:


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A solution of 6.7 g KOH in 100 mL H2O, under an inert atmosphere and magnetically stirred, was brought to 75 °C, and 10 g ergotamine tartrate (ET) added. The reaction mixture turned yellow as the ergotamine went into solution over the course of 1 h. The stirring was continued for an additional 3 h. The reaction mixture was cooled to about 10 °C with an external ice bath, and acidified to a pH of about 3.0 by the dropwise addition of 2.5 N H2SO4. White solids started to appear early in the neutralization; approximately 60 mL of sulfuric acid was required. The reaction mixture was cooled overnight, the solids removed by filtration, and the filter cake washed with 10 mL Et2O. The dry solids were transferred to a beaker, suspended in 50 mL 15 % ammonia in anhydrous ethanol, stirred for 1 h, and separated by decantation. This extraction was repeated, and the original decantation and the second extract combined and filtered to remove a few hundred milligrams of unwanted solids. The clear filtrate was stripped of solvent under vacuum, the residual solids dissolved in 50 mL of 1% aqueous ammonia, and this solution was acidified as before with 2.5 N H2SO4. The precipitated solids were removed by filtration and washed with Et2O until free of color. After drying under vacuum to a constant weight, there was obtained 3.5 g of d-lysergic acid hydrate, which should be stored in a dark, sealed container.

A suspension of 3.15 g d-lysergic acid hydrate and 7.1 g of diethylamine in 150 mL CHCl3 was brought to reflux with stirring. With the external heating removed, there was added 3.4 g POCl3 over the course of 2 min, at a rate sufficient to maintain refluxing conditions. The mixture was held at reflux for an additional 5 min, at which point everything had gone into solution. After returning to room temperature, the solution was added to 200 mL of 1 N NH4OH. The phases were separated, the organic phase dried over anhydrous MgSO4, filtered, and the solvent removed under vacuum. The residue was chromatographed over alumina with elution employing a 3:1 C6H6/CHCl3 mixture, and the collected fraction stripped of solvent under hard vacuum to a constant weight. This free-base solid can be recrystallized from benzene to give white crystals with a melting point of 87-92 °C. IR (in cm-1): 750, 776, 850, 937 and 996, with the carbonyl at 1631. The mass spectrum of the free base has a strong parent peak at mass 323, with sizable fragments at masses of 181, 196, 207 and 221.

This base was dissolved in warm, dry MeOH, using 4 mL per g of product. There was then added dry d-tartaric acid (0.232 g per g of LSD base), and the clear warm solution treated with Et2O dropwise until the cloudiness did not dispel on continued stirring. This opaqueness set to a fine crystalline suspension (this is achieved more quickly with seeding) and the solution allowed to crystallize overnight in the refrigerator. Ambient light should be severely restricted during these procedures. The product was removed by filtration, washed sparingly with cold methanol, with a cold 1:1 MeOH/Et2O mixture, and then dried to constant weight. The white crystalline product was lysergic acid diethylamide tartrate with two molecules of methanol of crystallization, with a mp of about 200 °C with decomposition, and weighed 3.11 g (66%). Repeated recrystallizations from methanol produced a product that became progressively less soluble, and eventually virtually insoluble, as the purity increased. A totally pure salt, when dry and when shaken in the dark, will emit small flashes of white light.

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The important difference is that though the old processes work, the Shulgin method will give you a 1.5-3x higher yield, with less impurities.


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Re: LSD Synthesis Tek [Re: kinrui]
    #6230099 - 10/31/06 10:31 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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Would using hydergine or bromocriptine supplement for the ergot, since both are easily accessible and come from ergotamine?








As you can see Bromocriptine only needs a wee little nudge to make it a suitable substitute for Ergotamine in the Shulgin synth. For a chemist it is clear what needs to be done, and how to go about it.

No such luck with Hydergine.

There may well be an exotic process able to convert the d-dihydrolysergic acid moiety into d-lysergic acid that I'm unaware of, but if not then Hydergine can be considered effectively denatured as an LSD precursor.


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    #6231097 - 10/31/06 03:14 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

So family, :laugh: is there going to be a revival?


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Re: LSD Synthesis Tek [Re: mack_tasticlies]
    #6231131 - 10/31/06 03:20 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Wiccan, what do you mean when you say this part of the path ways is the cream of the crop?


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    #6231309 - 10/31/06 04:12 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Stupid question here, but lets say one of us was able to find a good source of ergot got a culture going,would it be illegal to say trade it in the market? would it survive shipping? Or is this a dumb ass thing to do seeing how you don't know if the person receiving it would have the know or be responsible enough to use it?


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    #6231354 - 10/31/06 04:21 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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danliten said:
Stupid question here, but lets say one of us was able to find a good source of ergot got a culture going,would it be illegal to say trade it in the market? would it survive shipping? Or is this a dumb ass thing to do seeing how you don't know if the person receiving it would have the know or be responsible enough to use it?




In most states trafficking in raw ergot without a license is very illegal, not to mention remarkably dangerous.

You will have to do your own research as to the legality of ergot trafficking in your state.

Also that is a question probably for an administrator. The last thing we want to do is shut down the shroomery.


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    #6231397 - 10/31/06 04:29 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

well see that why i asked, now that i know let me say that, " that question was of course strictly hypothetical"
thank you.

PS according to erowid it is not illegal in the states, but regardless it is very dangerous. Aside from that if purchased there will be a close eye on you.


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    #6233680 - 11/01/06 02:25 AM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Then just keep quiet about it to not raise eyebrows of the auths and just messege me once you mass produce some. The U.S. needs a modern Keesy and Leary. :laugh: :laugh:


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Re: LSD Synthesis Tek [Re: mack_tasticlies]
    #6236411 - 11/01/06 09:47 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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Wiccan, what do you mean when you say this part of the path ways is the cream of the crop?




The process from cultivating ergot up to isolation of ergoloid tartrates is a solid process, but turning the ergoloids into LSD is best done with POCl3 over all methods presented.

If you intended to use a horseshoe in a drug lab, it would be evidence and part of the crime. Or in other words, if they suspect you of drug manufacture, everything is highly illegal.


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    #6236539 - 11/01/06 10:11 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

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In most states trafficking in raw ergot without a license is very illegal, not to mention remarkably dangerous.

You will have to do your own research as to the legality of ergot trafficking in your state.




from erowid:

"Claviceps purpurea is unscheduled in the U.S., but it is also listed as a "poison" according to U.S.C. Title 21 Chapter 7. This designation as a poison means that products made from ergot must either be labelled "for external use only"; or labelled as a "poison" and records kept about who it is sold to. The fungus itself is legal to cultivate and possess.

One of its constituent chemicals, ergotamine tartrate, is a watched chemical because of its use in the manufacture of LSD. Because of this, the cultivation or possession of large quantities of Claviceps purpurea might be considered suspicious."

JLF Catalog has sold it for many years.  They were raided several years back and forced to stop selling several questionable items to remain in business... the ergot hasn't once disappeared from their catalog throughout that... can't be watched all that closely... and have 10lb lots for sale :smile:


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    #6236884 - 11/01/06 11:18 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

really? i cant seem to find it in the catalog

EDIT: nevermind I found it


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    #6236952 - 11/01/06 11:36 PM (7 years, 11 months ago)

Holy shit, i wonder how long it would take to get a knock on the door if you ordered 30lbs.


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