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 ranke
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 Fir mulch/chips 
#6175033 - 10/16/06 01:08 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I have been looking around in chip beds for a few weeks no and have yet to spot anything cyans/azures. My question is do either of these grow in fir chip beds or am I wasting my time. I tried to find alder chips but am at a loss for what they look like and haven't found anything that looks any different then the fir chips anyway. Does anyone know of specific business's (not locations) in portland that often use alder chips? I.E. mcdonalds, wallgreens, fredmeyers. If the second part of this question is out of line please tell me before locking I will remove it.
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trevorda8
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Re: Fir mulch/chips [Re: ranke]
#6175064 - 10/16/06 01:18 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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I think they sometimes do grow in that redish bark mulch, but not as often as alder and decidious wood types.
alder turns into a faded, grey color when its been arround for a few years.
thats what you want to look for.
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Re: Fir mulch/chips [Re: ranke]
#6175104 - 10/16/06 01:26 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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first off, azures don't grow naturally in Portland, only on the coast and I have seen them on doug fir mulch in their native region but it's not what they prefer. 95% of portland area has conifer mulch. Hemlock is the real red stuff; doug fir is dark brown and it's usually bark mulch. From what I've read, hemlock & doug fir can support baeocystis, stuntzii and cyanofibrilosa but not usually cyans. Cyans like hardwood chips from deciduous trees (alder, maple, birch, etc.). These chip beds are few and far between in PDX. Unlike the conifer bark mulches which are usually finer particles these chip beds have bigger chunks of wood and you can usually find round twigs in there too. They are usually brown when wet and grey/white when old and dry. Then there's the flat yellow chips you find at playgrounds which I think are pine. Nothin' grows on pine. I don't know of any businesses in PDX that use hardwood. I've seen some in a few parks but not many.
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ranke
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Well shit sticks. Looks like I have a lot of work ahead of me.
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Re: Fir mulch/chips [Re: ranke]
#6175709 - 10/16/06 04:24 PM (17 years, 6 months ago) |
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here in my neck o' the woods the local park district has laid down tons of new mulch this past year and I think its Alder. It's certainly not conifer (I've got that stinky shit in my own yard), but I'm not exactly sure it was what I hope it was.
I saw some Lactarius deliciosus (at least they I think they were) growing from the North end of one of the playgrounds from the mulch. I also found that same species growing on the forest floor at Oswald West state park yesterday too under the Doug Firs. I found it interesting to find the same species growing in a rain forest on the coast and then again in the drier valley.
noob questions: What other species could possibly accompany cyan's? How do I know when I'm getting warm? And how the fuck do these mulch patched get inoculated (is that the word) with active species? Are there spores floating in the air or what?
This is one amazing pastime! I cant wait to find my first patch.
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Re: Fir mulch/chips [Re: Pincushion]
#6183727 - 10/18/06 07:01 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ive found many differnt types of mushrooms around where the cyans grow, however it was not on wood chips, but dead leaves and alder sticks and dirt in a foresty area. Ive seen small white mushrooms, many different look alikes that look exactly like a cyan from a little distance. I just tend to look for any other mushrooms to be a sign for cyanescens.
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 tahoe
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they do grow in fir chips. Just make sure you know your wood chips. Redwood chips dont produce much but they do sometimes have cyans.
These chips have cyans all the time and i think this is what you are talking about. A lot of places use these now and they are fir chips that are dyed red. Mycelium loves these chips. I shouldnt give away my secrets
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 Re: Fir mulch/chips [Re: tahoe]
#6183824 - 10/18/06 07:30 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Woah, that is really rad looking with the chips dyed red!
Heh, I saw some red dyed wood chips the other day and thought to myself (or maybe aloud) "I wonder if mushrooms would grow there... I bet it'd look trippy". 
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Re: Fir mulch/chips [Re: CureCat]
#6183855 - 10/18/06 07:37 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Did a quick research on those dyed chips. Seems they are "recycled fir wood with a long lasting mineral dye"
"Are the colorants safe for my plants and animals?
Yes! The raw materials used to make the colored mulch are made from naturally occurring colors in the earth's surface. These colorants, as well as other ingredients in the colored mulch, are specially formulated to be nontoxic to plants and animals."
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tahoe
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yeah, they are fir chips from the mills. I cracked afew open when i first found this patch. Sure enough the dye hasnt made it all the way tot he center and i could tell they were fir chips.
I also called scotts and asked what type or wood was used for this and they said it was the excess wood chips from the mills. These chips either become laminated plywood or lanscaping chips.
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CureCat
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Re: Fir mulch/chips [Re: tahoe]
#6183980 - 10/18/06 08:09 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey tahoe, who's the ass in yer avatar? 
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tahoe
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Re: Fir mulch/chips [Re: CureCat]
#6184170 - 10/18/06 08:54 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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i don't know her name but here is another
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Stop experimenting half way through your first grow. Grow it to maturity, watch it, learn from it. Do this a few times then experiment with different ideas and figure out what works best for you.
My Legacy
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/22140987#22140987
Teh=The
I need to proofread
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ranke
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Re: Fir mulch/chips [Re: tahoe]
#6184348 - 10/18/06 09:39 PM (17 years, 5 months ago) |
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Guess I will keep looking. We haven't had a ton of rain and I suspect that's why the cyans are not popping. How much rain does it usually take to start them coming up?
By the way, that chick is smoking.
Edited by ranke (10/18/06 09:40 PM)
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