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InvisibleSmokenBabyJesus
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Smoking Angel's Trumpet
    #5880909 - 07/20/06 10:27 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

I was looking for any information on smoking Angel's Trumpet.. the other day I ate a 65 gram extract of Peruvian Torch, While I was sitting outside looking at plants I became fixed on the Angel's Trumpet I'm growing and I started to get a very happy and good feeling about the plant and I realized I just love having it around because it makes me question reality... anyways.. I just fell in love with it during my trip and I was just looking for info on smoking it.



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InvisibleBiG_StroOnZ
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Re: Smoking Angel's Trumpet [Re: SmokenBabyJesus]
    #5881016 - 07/20/06 11:03 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

During ancient times, Jimsonweed had many uses in folk medicines. In Europe it was used to treat mania, epilepsy, and certain psychoses. In more recent times it has been used to relieve asthma. Due to the number of people using these powders for thrill seeking purposes, the FDA banished over the counter sales of this product resulting in an
increase in use of the actual plant for recreational purposes. Ingestion of only a few leaves or seeds of Jimsonweed may result in toxicity. The alkaloid toxins in this particular plant may cause anticholinergic poisoning in those who ingest it. In the young plant, scopolamine is the primary toxic substance, and as the plant matures the predominant toxin is hyoscyamine. It is primarily the scopolamine which can cause hallucinations, therefore often making the young plants more toxic.
A person exposed to Jimsonweed may experience headache, thirst, nausea, tachycardia, hypertension, cardiac arhythmias, urinary
retention, fever, hallucinations, and coma. Symptoms usually begin within 15 minutes to several hours after ingestion. Ingestion of this
weed in tea form or by smoking the leaves or seeds may result in a
more rapid onset of symtoms. Within 1 - 2 days, symptoms usually resolve but have been known to last up to 2 weeks with severe
overdoses. At times a person exposed to Jimsonweed may alternate between hallucinating and a somnolent state.

Plants that contain the tropane alkaloids atropine, scopolamine, and hyoscyamine include the following:

Datura species (jimson weed, angel's trumpet, thorn apple)

Edited by BiG_StroOnZ (07/20/06 11:05 AM)

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Re: Smoking Angel's Trumpet [Re: BiG_StroOnZ]
    #5881153 - 07/20/06 11:49 AM (17 years, 8 months ago)

bad idea, but if you use exactly enough yoll be fine , a little too much, well yor screwed

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OfflineLysergic_Milkman
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Re: Smoking Angel's Trumpet [Re: sunchaser]
    #5881273 - 07/20/06 12:30 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

You guys are exaggerating.
It is fine to smoke Datura/Brugmansia species as long as you follow this simple rule of thumb:
"NEVER smoke more than 2 leaves within a 24 hour period!" (you could actually smoke more without any toxic/delusional effects, but just to be safe...)

If you are looking to trip, then DO NOT use Datura to attempt that goal. Datura is to be smoked for meditation, or in combination with other drugs for increased/more pleasant effects (alcohol, Cannabis, tobacco, and other smokables are good for mixing).

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Re: Smoking Angel's Trumpet [Re: Lysergic_Milkman]
    #5881408 - 07/20/06 01:23 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

So Datura is a poison or toxin? Can it kill you if you smoke too many leaves within a 24 hr period?


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Re: Smoking Angel's Trumpet [Re: MorphMan]
    #5881546 - 07/20/06 02:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

yes.


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Re: Smoking Angel's Trumpet [Re: SmokenBabyJesus]
    #5881547 - 07/20/06 02:12 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Make no mistake, She is deadly. Treat her right.


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Invisibletruekimbo2
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Re: Smoking Angel's Trumpet [Re: EquilibriuM]
    #5881568 - 07/20/06 02:21 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

the 2 leaf rule is not accurate. every plant varies in potency. there are plants that half a leaf could kill you, and plants that you could smoke 20 or so and be fine.

i have smoked a good amount of datura. although interesting, over a long enough time line it'll fuck you good.
although i don't know if this is scientifically accurate, it seems like its reverse tolerant. the more often you smoke it the higher you'll get off of less.
this seems like a good thing until one day while you're smoking you wake up and half an hour has gone by and you can't remeber what happened.

around the time i stopped, i stopped because every time i would smoke it i would get the feeling that my brain was on fire. it hurt very very badly mixed with an intense weed-like high.

in the begining it was just a slightly strange feeling though.

i'm really not sure what to say. if you're not going to be un-persuaded from taking it, have a plan going in. know exactly what you want from it and focus on that. if you're doing it just for exploration purposes you may find yourself somewhere you don't want to be.

again, none of this will be instantaneous. it takes a while to get heavy effects.


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Re: Smoking Angel's Trumpet [Re: truekimbo2]
    #5882004 - 07/20/06 05:02 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

truekimbo2 said:
the 2 leaf rule is not accurate. every plant varies in potency. there are plants that half a leaf could kill you, and plants that you could smoke 20 or so and be fine.

i have smoked a good amount of datura. although interesting, over a long enough time line it'll fuck you good.
although i don't know if this is scientifically accurate, it seems like its reverse tolerant. the more often you smoke it the higher you'll get off of less.
this seems like a good thing until one day while you're smoking you wake up and half an hour has gone by and you can't remeber what happened.

around the time i stopped, i stopped because every time i would smoke it i would get the feeling that my brain was on fire. it hurt very very badly mixed with an intense weed-like high.

in the begining it was just a slightly strange feeling though.

i'm really not sure what to say. if you're not going to be un-persuaded from taking it, have a plan going in. know exactly what you want from it and focus on that. if you're doing it just for exploration purposes you may find yourself somewhere you don't want to be.

again, none of this will be instantaneous. it takes a while to get heavy effects.




of course the 2 leaf rule isn't accurate, but I seriously doubt that Datura leaf, of any potency, could actually kill or cause delusions with 2 leaves (much less half a leaf). But, like they say, the best way to avoid getting STD's (Scary Trips from Datura) is simply to abstain from 'it' all together.
I share your feelings for the tolerance, though, but I wouldn't necessarily call it outright reverse tolerance. Datura is definitely one of those drugs that is hard to recognize at first, but, after using it many times, you can begin to recognize it's effects easily. I also believe that Datura has a build-up effect (you don't have to dose all at once), hence the '24 hours' rule.
I haven't experienced the 'brain fire' yet, care to elaborate?

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Re: Smoking Angel's Trumpet [Re: Lysergic_Milkman]
    #5882032 - 07/20/06 05:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

maybe instead of ingesting it, you should enjoy it for being around.

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Invisibletruekimbo2
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Re: Smoking Angel's Trumpet [Re: Phishe]
    #5882418 - 07/20/06 07:33 PM (17 years, 8 months ago)

the brain fire was pretty much exactly like it sounds. i would feel all this energy go up my back and "Set my brain on fire"

terribly painful. music sounded unusually good though, compareable to tripping on a good dose of mush or something. all in all wasn't worth it. i think it was more of a personal effect and not something i would expect other poeple to get.


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