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OfflineExplosiveMango
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Suspected mescaline-like RC
    #5780062 - 06/22/06 10:35 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Back a few years ago, before I had started any psychedelic use, I had several friends/associates who would often indulge in what they said was 'mescaline'.

It didn't strike me as strange at the time... but thinking back, it's hard to believe that's what it was.

The first unusual thing about it was that it was so plentiful- in a place that otherwise rarely sees even acid, let alone anything 'more exotic'.

The second was that it was quite cheap.

I also noted that substantial lines were snorted, this may be normal or it may not, I'm inexperienced with mescaline myself.

A friend when using this substance for the first time; snorted a line then immediately blacked out for a few moments.


The substance was very close to cocaine in appearance.


So what do you all think? Mescaline or some sort of research chemical?
(or something else?)


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Re: Suspected mescaline-like RC [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #5780071 - 06/22/06 10:37 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Can you even snort mescaline?


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Re: Suspected mescaline-like RC [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #5780078 - 06/22/06 10:40 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Could have been 5MEO-DMT. I don't belive you would snort it though. Most of the time its smoked. You can consume it several ways though. More than likely its a type of Rc. I'm not for certian on this but I belive mescaline when in powder form is a brownish or yellowish color


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Re: Suspected mescaline-like RC [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #5780085 - 06/22/06 10:44 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Generally it would make more sense to try to pass off another phenethylamine as mescaline, as they are usually longer-lasting and more subjectively similar in experience.

Most phenethylamines (including ones sometimes classified as RCs) take a while to come on, whether snorted or eaten; usually on the order of 30 minutes to an hour. In the case of mescaline, however, it's more like an hour to two hours.

Snorting mescaline wouldn't be very fun either, as it would take a huge amount of powder and would burn the nasal passages worse than most drugs.

My bet would be MDA (mostly due to it's relative abundance a few years back), but it would also depend on the length of effects the drug produced.

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Re: Suspected mescaline-like RC [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #5780103 - 06/22/06 10:49 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Next time I see any of the guys I'll inquire more about the effects of the drug.


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Re: Suspected mescaline-like RC [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #5780752 - 06/22/06 02:59 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

a while back a friend and i split a little pink line of what we thought was mescaline... but now that i look back, it was most likely an rc. had a great time though


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Re: Suspected mescaline-like RC [Re: danlennon3]
    #5780764 - 06/22/06 03:05 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

MDA makes sense. MDMA also if it was right after the MDA ban. It would make sense that it'd be easy to get then as well, since marriage counselours and therapists were giving MDMA away like candy for some time.


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Re: Suspected mescaline-like RC [Re: wiggles]
    #5780883 - 06/22/06 03:39 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

if its white powder similar to the appearance of cocaine i would say pea such as 2ci or 2ce....im leaning more towards 2ce just because that is the pea that is usually snorted....but 2ci can be snorted as well but more common to eat or drink in a vial of gatorade.


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Re: Suspected mescaline-like RC [Re: camelsmoker]
    #5781302 - 06/22/06 06:12 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

Nah, i wouldnt think so, a normal 2ci/e dose is somewhere in the range of 10-20 mgs. A susbtantial line, as the poster noted, would be more in the range of 100's of mgs.

However it is possible the the powder contained a small amount of RC and a large amount of cut. However i would place my bet that the chemical in question was AMT. Heavy dose for AMT is around 80 mg's which would hold constant with the amount they were insufflating. The effects would also appear to be similar to mescaline (at least on the base level). It is long lasting, hallucination inducing, and has a heavy body load. The onset can also take up to two hrs which would bears resemblence to the time needed for a mescaline trip.

A good rule of thumb is that most of the times when people are pusing "synthetic mescaline" its best to smile and walk away. Since synthetic mescaline is difficult to produce and has a relatively high cost associated with it, the chances of running into it are pretty slim. You do, however, have a nominal chance of running into some cactus extract which can be capped and sold.

I would defintey say the chemcical in question was not what it was sold as tho.


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    #5782451 - 06/22/06 11:38 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Suspected mescaline-like RC [Re: Weebl8bob]
    #5783039 - 06/23/06 05:49 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

the original post makes no note on the size of the dose or how long it takes to kick in...and how would he know the actual dose size he mentions nothing of using a scale...all he said was they laid out a line and snorted it. also of what i know about amt its usually smoked or taken orally ...not normal to snort..


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Re: Suspected mescaline-like RC [Re: camelsmoker]
    #5783698 - 06/23/06 12:39 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

to get a proper dosage of some good mesc. i think it would be like around 300mg's for like a 12 hour buzz but i did buy some one time and it was supposebly cut with pcp...whitsh green...i guess the pcp was green and mescaline was white or the other way around and i only did a couple lines for 10$agram, got a lil buzz but idunno..alot of people try to sell other things to substitute real drugs but i guess its just who you know and where it comes from


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Re: Suspected mescaline-like RC [Re: mightyjoepipe]
    #5783711 - 06/23/06 12:47 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

:lolz0rz:

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Re: Suspected mescaline-like RC [Re: shroomanic]
    #5784305 - 06/23/06 04:24 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Suspected mescaline-like RC [Re: undersativaskies]
    #5784308 - 06/23/06 04:25 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I would be surprised if it was MDA... I don't remember them claiming it to be particularly euphoric... and some of them surely would have recognized it as being similar to MDMA

I was thinking 2-ce for a while but I could swear I saw guys snorting at least a couple points... which would be a bit much 2-ce


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Re: Suspected mescaline-like RC [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #5784310 - 06/23/06 04:26 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

sounds like ketamine going by your description(especially considering u said he blacked out aka khole) not only that but k is cheap and easily obtainable overseas where they don't have the same regulations on it and it defintely resembles cocaine

EDIT: this won't help much but heres a pic of pure k next to mda


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Re: Suspected mescaline-like RC [Re: Weebl8bob]
    #5785030 - 06/23/06 08:57 PM (17 years, 9 months ago)

I don't really know... It could be 2ce though...


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Re: Suspected mescaline-like RC [Re: colimon]
    #5786301 - 06/24/06 11:04 AM (17 years, 9 months ago)

it could have been a number of things. ive seen countless RC's being sold as mescaline.


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