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Offlinetwiggedoubt
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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: TheDudeAbides]
    #5560327 - 04/26/06 08:53 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Who cares about the copywritten marterial, these people are stealing money from people. A doubt a formal letter mean much to people that are conspiring to sell marijuana (selling marijuana seeds qualifies), if they are selling them across state lines it makes it federal, so I have a hard time understanding how the DEA hasn't kicked in their door. Also, who the fuck would order from a site that low budget? It sells marijuana seeds, yet its in USA, common people use some judgement. I am trying to get him to call me now, I would like to get a chance to talk to this guy personally. I really hate people like this guy, who rip unsuspecting people off, thats why people really should buy from vendors that they can get feedback from aka, sponsers of shroomery or other mushroom websites, it isn;t worth the risk of getting ripped off. The other thing that pisses me off is they are in this country, how easy is it to get shut down for doing shit quasi-legally, yet they continue to fuck people over. I would send a link to the DEA, but i ain't no snitch, though I would like to see them get busted, it will just bring bad press to the legit spore sellers.

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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: twiggedoubt]
    #5560384 - 04/26/06 09:05 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

The thing is most people dont want to get authorities involved, especially when you're dealing with semi illegal, or straight up illegal products.  Who here would call the cops when their 200 dollar order for northern lights seeds never came in?  Thats how these scam companies operate, they know 99% of the people will take their licks and live and learn.  While spores remain illegal im pretty sure no one here would like to explain the police, DEA, or BBB about why they ordered these spores.  People like us in this community tend to stay as far away from LEO's as we can get.

The only thing i can think of to shut these guys down is to send an anonymous tip to some LE agency about them selling cannabis seeds. 

Sucks you guys got ripped off, people like this are the true scum of the world. :frown:


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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: coda]
    #5562310 - 04/27/06 10:25 AM (17 years, 10 months ago)

Also, tipping the LE off would just end up getting someone else jail time, cause scumbags like them would rat out their mother to save them from spending a day in prison. Robbing people is a crime, punishible by ass whooping, snitching is a crime punishible by death. I have gotten robbed before, I never in a million years would narc on them, I would cut their penis off and eat it before I would do that. You can't have a webname like that, registered to your house and get away with it forever. I do have a hard time believing that he really lives in the US though.

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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: twiggedoubt]
    #5575093 - 04/30/06 07:37 PM (17 years, 10 months ago)

yea I F#*!@king HATE people like this.

It just makes other vendors look bad.. and makes people never want to order online again.

Anyone feel like hacking? lol.


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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: mjshroomer]
    #6706861 - 03/24/07 04:05 PM (17 years, 9 days ago)

Hey i just had a quick question whether shrooms.com is a legit site? Do they send you your stuff or just take your money and run

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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: srperron]
    #6706928 - 03/24/07 04:30 PM (17 years, 9 days ago)

Quote:

srperron said:

Hey i just had a quick question whether shrooms.com is a legit site? Do they send you your stuff or just take your money and run




They jack up the prices on everything and take advantage of people that way...

in other words they make money off people(newbies) that don't know any better and haven't shopped around for better prices!~

they do deliver the products that they sell though.

but charging 6 to 10 times more for a product that you could buy at another site...

is a rip off Vendor to me!~


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Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: Roadkill]
    #6707149 - 03/24/07 05:47 PM (17 years, 9 days ago)

Quote:

Who cares about the copywritten marterial, these people are stealing money from people




Anybody who gets stolen from, that's who. If they steal John's pictures, it's a fairly easy process to get them shut down. You simply file a lawsuit in your local court, and serve the papers to whoever 'whois' says owns the site. If they don't show up in court, you can get a default judgement against them. 30 days later, you file papers that they are in default and the judge will issue an order assigning you their URL. You present that to the domain name registry, and they transfer ownership to you, based on your court order. Bingo, the copyrighted material stealers are out of buisiness. I'm surprised more people haven't done this. Stamets has shut down many sites for stealing his pictures.
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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: Hamstercut]
    #6707180 - 03/24/07 05:56 PM (17 years, 9 days ago)

Quote:

Budsky said:
....contact the shroomery assassin at once!



Who do you need me to visit?


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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: OldSpice]
    #6707251 - 03/24/07 06:26 PM (17 years, 9 days ago)

what little punks rippin people off, man it's probably the government running that site scamin people then busting them later to get more money, thats why it aint got shut down


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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: OldSpice]
    #6711537 - 03/25/07 11:33 PM (17 years, 7 days ago)

Quote:

Alounacara said:
Quote:

Budsky said:
....contact the shroomery assassin at once!



Who do you need me to visit?





I will provide backup.


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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: Legend9123]
    #6714729 - 03/26/07 10:21 PM (17 years, 6 days ago)

This is all public info, and I hope it helps bring attention to this person, as it looks like they have a range of sites they do this on. From Shrooms, steroids, to jewelry.

Original thread:

Started off with the domain listed

http://www.buzzgrower.com


whois info on that


Registrant:
buzzgrower

5309 N. Division
Comstock Park, Michigan 49321
United States

Registered through: FreeWebs Domains
Domain Name: BUZZGROWER.COM   
Created on: 14-Jan-03         
Expires on: 14-Jan-08         
Last Updated on: 02-Apr-06     
                               
Administrative Contact:       
miesch, jason gbiginc@yahoo.com
buzzgrower                     
5309 N. Division               
Comstock Park, Michigan 49321 
United States                 
6163653138                     
                               
Technical Contact:             
miesch, jason gbiginc@yahoo.com
buzzgrower                     
5309 N. Division               
Comstock Park, Michigan 49321 
United States                 
6163653138                     
                               
Domain servers in listed order:
NS20.WEBSITESOURCE.NET         
NS22.WEBSITESOURCE.NET         
                               
                               
                               
So this gives a good start, a map of that address,
                               
http://www.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=Comstock+Park,+MI,+USA+5309+N.+Division&sll=43.038783,-85.670013&sspn=0.523945,0.962677&layer=&ie=UTF8&z=18&ll=43.060234,-85.669912&spn=0.004092,0.007521&t=k&om=1&iwloc=addr
                               


Then searched for that email address and found a few things,

He signed petition to legalize weed,

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/853304429?ltl=1174956812

"215    7:32 pm PST, Dec 26    jason miesch"


Previous shroomery complaint on this same guy,

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/4500047/an/0/page/0



I also found a cached page of him selling a dirtbike

google cache

www.50statesclassifieds.com/Classifieds/product_desc.php%3Fid%3D3952+gbiginc&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=us" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener">http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:CKmeWhFdtUQJ:www.50statesclassifieds.com/Classifieds/product_desc.php%3Fid%3D3952+gbiginc&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=5&gl=us

CLASSIFIED DETAILS
Time Left Expired     
1997 kawasaki kx125
item#3952
Location      comstock park-Michigan-USA
Posted        06-26-2006 06:04 PM
Users  Add to your Favorites
Price  900
Quantity      1
Shipping      --
       
Seller        gbiginc
Items  View All Items by Seller
Store  Visit Seller's Custom Store
Send  Tell a Friend about this Ad
Website       
Phone  616-874-7006
Home > All Categories  > Michigan > Autos & Vehicles
Item Description
1997 kawasaki kx125 dirtbike for sale.  Runs great!  Bike is ready to go.  Do not want to sell it but the wife says it must go.  Bike
is worth about 1400.00 And I will let it go for 900 firm.  Please call 1 (616) 874-7006 or email me at gbiginc@yahoo.com



Here is another listing, and it turns up a new domain



http://www.50statesclassifieds.com/Classifieds/product_desc.php?id=3953


Location        Comstock Park-Michigan-USA
Posted        06-26-2006 06:08 PM
Users  Add to your Favorites
Price  --
Quantity      --
Shipping      --
       
Seller        gbiginc
Items  View All Items by Seller
Store  Visit Seller's Custom Store
Send  Tell a Friend about this Ad
Website        http://turngold2cash.com
Phone  616-874-7006
Home > All Categories  > Michigan > Want Ads
Uploaded Images - Click on a picture to enlarge it
No images have been Uploaded
Item Description
Wanted: Jewelry. Dont go to a pawn shop and get pennies on the dollar for your jewelry. Get top dollar for your merchandise.  Please vis
it our website for more details.



Site linked

http://turngold2cash.com/

Has same contact PO box

Mail your package to:
BG Inc.
P.O. Box 132
Comstock Park, Michigan, 49321.

another email

To contact us please e-mail us at Turngold2cashcom@yahoo.com


Notice the same PO BOX



Here is a yahoo posting for Turngold2cash


google cache link

http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:7Mib0ftPm_wJ:classifieds.yahoo.com/result.html%3Fcc%3Dmerchandise%26ck%3D%26loc%3D49503+TurnGold2Cash.com&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl=us


yahoo link

http://classifieds.yahoo.com/detail.html?cc=merchandise&fullnodeid=750049665&cid=merchandise-1174317730-170642


Wanted Jewelry
Comstock Park, Michigan Map
Dont go to a pawn shop and get pennies on the dollars visit www.turngold2cash.com or call (616) 915-9783
Details

Type:
    Wanted
Date Posted:
    March 19, 2007

Asking Price:
    $1000.00

Ad ID:
merchandise-1174317730-170642
Contact Information

Who to Contact:
    jason
Phone:
    616-915-9783





Another link related to the same person

http://www.beatyourprice.com/Show_Item/11812/Other_Merchandise.htm


linked to this page

http://webmanilla.info/manilla-envelope/110061.html





another google cache

http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:PA0_6PJ3FUUJ:classifieds.yahoo.com/result.html%3Fck%3D%26fullnodeid%3D750049665%26loc%3D%26cs%3D%26gur%3D16%26cl_price%3D%26ch_price%3D%26purlf%3D%26g%3D%26cc%3Dmerchandise%26sort%3D-pricesort%26ce_login%3D%26bnum%3D16+616-915-9783&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us




Wanted Jewelry          $1000.00        Wanted          Comstock Park, MI      03/19/07
Dont go to a pawn shop and get pennies on the dollars visit www.turngold2cash.com or call (616) 915-9783 more



Info on that phone number

(616) 915-9783
Type: Cell PhoneProvider: Verizon WirelessLocation: Grand Rapids, MI




another site

http://www.getbig.ws/contactus.htm


Note the same email address that he used when talking to "twiggedoubt" in this thread

"If you have any questions feel free to ask at billingviapp@yahoo.com Responses are within 24-48 hours.  Thank you!"


A yahoo answers person that got ripped off asking questions about this guy

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061224194651AAY81XB






Another site that I turned up,

http://www.shroomsnmore.com/orderbymail.htm

same info

To order using  mail send check, money order, or cash wrapped in paper to:

SM Inc

PO Box 132

Comstock Park, MI 49321

Thank you!  Remember shipping is free!




Whois


Registrant:
jason miesch
5309 N. Division
Comstock Park, MI 49321
United States

Registered through: FreeWebs Domains
Domain Name: SHROOMSNMORE.COM
Created on: 20-Sep-05
Expires on: 20-Sep-07
Last Updated on: 29-Sep-06

Administrative Contact:
miesch, jason diamondvineyard@yahoo.com
5309 N. Division
Comstock Park, MI 49321
United States
6167842497

Technical Contact:
miesch, jason diamondvineyard@yahoo.com
5309 N. Division
Comstock Park, MI 49321
United States
6167842497

Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.FREEWEBS.COM
NS2.FREEWEBS.COM



Here we get more alternative emails and phone numbers



now a reverse lookup on this new number brings more details

Miesch, Gregg

5309 Division Ave N

Comstock Park, MI 49321-9586

(616) 784-2497


A new name!


here is some info on his hometown


Local Information for Comstock Park, MI
# Population: 10,674
# Total Households: 4,441
# Median Age: 27.40
# Median Household Income: $40,202




Here is some more detailed info

http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.miesch/16/mb.ashx

Miesch Family in Michigan



Miesch Family in Michigan
Jeramy Miesch  (View posts)    Posted: 17 Feb 2003 3:55AM GMT
Classification: Biography
Surnames: Arp, Slaughter, Leech
Youngest of family Jeramy (myself) and twin brother Jason. Father Gregg Miesch, Mother Barbara (Surname-Arp). Gregg is brother to Gail M
iesch and Gary Miesch. Grand Parents- Don Miesch and Darlene (Surname Leech)- all reside in Michigan. Hope this helps. :smile:





Got to love this line

"Hope this helps. :smile:"


From the above whois we got the new email that led me to this site


http://www.diamondvineyard.com/contactus.htm


Contact Us

You can email us at diamondvineyard@yahoo.com  with any questions or comments.  Responses will be within 24-48 hrs. Thank you!



Now this looks a bit more legit than the other sites and the register info also brings up new info


Registrant:
  Diamond Vineyard
  2122 Madison
  Grand Rapids, Michigan 49507
  United States

  Registered through: FreeWebs Domains
  Domain Name: DIAMONDVINEYARD.COM
      Created on: 31-Oct-04
      Expires on: 31-Oct-07
      Last Updated on: 31-Oct-06

  Administrative Contact:
      Vander Jagt, Brandi  jmiesch@sbcglobal.net
      Diamond Vineyard
      2122 Madison
      Grand Rapids, Michigan 49507
      United States
      6162466440      Fax -- 6162466440

  Technical Contact:
      Vander Jagt, Brandi  jmiesch@sbcglobal.net
      Diamond Vineyard
      2122 Madison
      Grand Rapids, Michigan 49507
      United States
      6162466440      Fax -- 6162466440

  Domain servers in listed order:
      NS1.FREEWEBS.COM
      NS2.FREEWEBS.COM

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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: brotherp]
    #6714786 - 03/26/07 10:37 PM (17 years, 6 days ago)

Damn.


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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: brotherp]
    #6714947 - 03/26/07 11:14 PM (17 years, 6 days ago)

jesus that should have someone poised for initiating karmageddon :smirk:

glad i didnt get dooped:smirk::tongue2:


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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: sketchydelux]
    #6715712 - 03/27/07 05:42 AM (17 years, 6 days ago)

That's what I'm talking about! :yourock:


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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: mushymart]
    #6715719 - 03/27/07 05:48 AM (17 years, 6 days ago)

karmageddon <----- lol i like that

i hope this guy gets his


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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: royer]
    #6716167 - 03/27/07 11:20 AM (17 years, 6 days ago)

My brother is going to Wrestle Mania and I told him he should stop by some of these places and kick some ass

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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: chainsaw1298]
    #6716184 - 03/27/07 11:31 AM (17 years, 6 days ago)

Which Wrestler is he?

have him :voodoo: the guy!~


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Brainiac said:
PM the names with on there names, that means they have mushrooms for sale.


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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: Roadkill]
    #6716893 - 03/27/07 03:35 PM (17 years, 6 days ago)

hes no wrestler but hes big enough

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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: chainsaw1298]
    #6717198 - 03/27/07 05:17 PM (17 years, 6 days ago)

Quote:

chainsaw1298 said:
hes no wrestler but hes big enough




you dont have to be that big at all to fuckup someone too pussy to rob people face to face:mad:


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Re: Warning: RIP OFF Vendor Site [Re: sketchydelux]
    #6751495 - 04/05/07 05:05 PM (16 years, 11 months ago)

I just sent an email to the support team at 1shoppingcart.com, which is the shopping cart software that shroomsnmore.com uses. I'm sure they will yank them from their customer list very soon. We will just have to wait and see what happens.


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