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lsd synthesis
    #5383936 - 03/10/06 12:43 AM (18 years, 23 days ago)

is it even worth trying to fathom synthesizing lsd? with all the bunk shit ive got recently, ive decided im going to study and learn about the synthesis in the hopes that someday i will have the means and equipment to try...this is probably 5-10 years down the road, but i mean...LSD exists, therefore someone is cooking it, and honestly if someone else is i believe i am capabale as well...so basically what are your guys opinions... from what ive read it seems somehwat simple if you have all the lab equipment and prerequisite items...what would you say is the best way to synthesize lsd and what method would you guess is used to create most of the lsd we find on the street?


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Re: lsd synthesis [Re: jenerikcairet]
    #5383947 - 03/10/06 12:47 AM (18 years, 23 days ago)

ha, go to college, take advanced chem classes, and your golden!
Good luck buddy!


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Re: lsd synthesis [Re: Helge]
    #5383959 - 03/10/06 12:52 AM (18 years, 23 days ago)

im in college and have taken basic chem classes, i may major in it...i dont know...

my uncle has a chemistry degree, maybe i should talk to him...


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Re: lsd synthesis [Re: jenerikcairet]
    #5383964 - 03/10/06 12:55 AM (18 years, 23 days ago)

youd need YEARS of organic chem Lab experienc and thats not even the half of it. Its a good goal, but that will Take ALOT of work. Itd be easier to just find some legit tabs.


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Re: lsd synthesis [Re: sui]
    #5383972 - 03/10/06 12:58 AM (18 years, 23 days ago)

yeah i figured it was a pretty futile dream...i would much rather find some legit shit but ive been looking for a year or two...i cant find shit...it really upsets me...ive scored the good shit three or four times int he past 18 months and have gotten bad shit twice as often, the problem is i always keep trying the bunk shit in hopes it will be better since i can never find a new source...

makes me so angry...what i would do for a sheet of legit blotter or a fucking vial...

edit: believe me, when i DO find that good shit i stock up like a bear going to hybernate.


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Edited by jenerikcairet (03/10/06 01:07 AM)

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Re: lsd synthesis [Re: jenerikcairet]
    #5383975 - 03/10/06 01:00 AM (18 years, 23 days ago)

just keep looking man itll come when you least expect it. Lucy is like that, she finds you.


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Re: lsd synthesis [Re: sui]
    #5384000 - 03/10/06 01:09 AM (18 years, 23 days ago)

im pretty much planning on stocking up at various jam band shows this summer, including bonnaroo... id say thats probably the best place to find it...we cant all live on teh west coast...ive read a lot of it is manufactured out in california...not sure if thats true but if so youve probably got a great connect


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Re: lsd synthesis [Re: jenerikcairet]
    #5384009 - 03/10/06 01:11 AM (18 years, 23 days ago)

hahahaha

actually my connect for a reason not disclosed to me disappeared to AZ recently.:mad2: damn shady dealers.

Its around here, there is plenty in the bay but i gotta find me another connect.


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Re: lsd synthesis [Re: sui]
    #5384052 - 03/10/06 01:26 AM (18 years, 23 days ago)

With a B.S. in chemistry, synthesizing lsd whould theoretically not be that difficult, however acquiring the precursors to make it without getting arrested is. There are about 12 or 13 items commonly used in the synthesis of lsd that the government watches very meticulously. #1 ingredient is ergotamine tartate, which just possesion of in large enough quantities can land you a jail sentence for intent. ive heard though what the chemists do is go to foreign countries and somehow find this stuff. however 10 grams of ergotamine tartate = 3 grams of crystal lsd. enough for many life times over. about 2000 doses worth upwards of $20,000. (if my math is correct)


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Re: lsd synthesis [Re: darkstar45]
    #5384119 - 03/10/06 01:50 AM (18 years, 23 days ago)

It does take alot of knowhow, and equipment, and the right chemicals to start with.
It is a synthesis that is often misunderstood. It Is not one bit "simple" for a master in chemistry for various reasons.
Just read up on it. In theory, you could do it.

Edited by stemmer (03/10/06 10:44 AM)

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Re: lsd synthesis [Re: stemmer]
    #5384246 - 03/10/06 02:46 AM (18 years, 23 days ago)

darskstar at $20 000 for 2000 hits
thats $20 a hit
i thought that was way too expensive for the US
price goes down with bulk
atm its 4 euros a hit if u buy a sheet of 500 in switzerland apparently
which equates to $3,250 AUD for a sheet of 500
alright price but pain in the ass tryin to get it lol

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Re: lsd synthesis [Re: indica]
    #5384281 - 03/10/06 02:58 AM (18 years, 23 days ago)

wouldnt that be $10 a hit?


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Re: lsd synthesis [Re: jenerikcairet]
    #5384566 - 03/10/06 07:12 AM (18 years, 23 days ago)

It's not so much the lab expiriance that you need that will hinder you, it's more the fact that the key chemicals you need are illegal as hell and you'll never be able to get them.


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Re: lsd synthesis [Re: jenerikcairet]
    #5384572 - 03/10/06 07:15 AM (18 years, 23 days ago)

I don't think it's a far reach. If you want it bad enough, i'm sure you could aquire the knowledge needed to make it. As for the tools, well that's a different story.

If Chemistry is something you're willing to devote years to, by all means. Go for it. I'm currently in the process for a Chemical Engineering degree, it's not easy, but it's something I enjoy doing.

If you're going to go to school for Chemistry solely to be able to synthesize LSD, you're going for all the wrong reasons. Evaluate what it is you really want.

Although, having a generation of very willful psychedelic Chemists running around wouldn't be such a bad thing either I suppose.  :smirk:

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Re: lsd synthesis [Re: Fictional]
    #5384669 - 03/10/06 08:15 AM (18 years, 22 days ago)

I may major in chem., just for my interest in chemistry, but being able to synthesize tryptamines would be an added bonus :smile:

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Re: lsd synthesis [Re: gdman]
    #5384900 - 03/10/06 09:52 AM (18 years, 22 days ago)

Quote:

gdman said:
It's not so much the lab expiriance that you need that will hinder you, it's more the fact that the key chemicals you need are illegal as hell and you'll never be able to get them.




:thumbup:

I love how people crap all over others dreams of LSD manufacture claiming its way beyond any mere mortals ability (I bet the DEA loves this prevelant attitude). Anyone with a BS in chemistry, I would hope, would have the basic skills necessary to operate the apperati involved in the process. Sure, it wouldnt be easy but trial and error would prevail to the chemist who is determined. Like you said the major stumbling block here is procurment of the necessary precursors.

Id be a nervous wreck just trying to get them  :crazy:

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Re: lsd synthesis [Re: Gratos]
    #5385013 - 03/10/06 10:20 AM (18 years, 22 days ago)

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I love how people crap all over others dreams of LSD manufacture claiming its way beyond any mere mortals ability




Well I'm sick of the mythology too.

1...Buy a sack of organic rye and collect ergot sclerotia from it
2...Culture the ergot (liq culture)
3...Extract Ergotamides
4...Turn Ergotamides to LSD using the technique detailed in TiHKAL

If you can get into Mensa, are both a thinker and a doer, can spare $1.000 and *really* are determined to turn it into an important project in your life then you'll likely be tripping on your own LSD this christmas.

ALL the knowledge you need is present on the web and a scientific mind can fill in the blanks when needed.


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Re: lsd synthesis [Re: Asante]
    #5385543 - 03/10/06 01:08 PM (18 years, 22 days ago)

Hey wiccan, I realise that people infect the rye with spores of Claviceps fungus for it to produce ergot, one could easily grow their own rye, but can you get claviceps spores or are they watched by the feds?

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Re: lsd synthesis [Re: jmg5]
    #5386844 - 03/10/06 06:04 PM (18 years, 22 days ago)

1...Buy a sack of organic rye and collect ergot sclerotia from it

You can cultivate the ergot from the ergot you find in a bag of Organic Rye.


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Re: lsd synthesis [Re: Asante]
    #5391277 - 03/12/06 08:25 AM (18 years, 20 days ago)

LSD is everywhere around us, its just hiding.


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