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 Swami
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Here is the part that you and the Staff completely miss time and again:
I was barred for allegedly hurting someone's feelings indirectly through my style yet it is acceptable for mods to attempt to hurt people's feelings directly through insult. How can that possibly be helpful and conducive to healing?
A member who permanently leaves the Shroomery for feeling attacked is gone no matter who drove them out. That does not make for a healthy and growing community. Nor does pretending to address member's concerns while telling them their concerns don't matter.
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 Phred
Fred's son
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 Re: I like it not [Re: Swami]
#5173287 - 01/12/06 04:54 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sigh.
What a bunch of crapola going on here.
Cervantes got permabanned because he kept pushing and PUSHING and PUSHING long after the point he was told to stop. There's nothing more complicated than that. No big conspiracy, no "bias". He'd start a thread, run it into the ground long past the point of reason, the admins would let him drone on and on with his lengthy whiny repetitive CAPS LOCK FILLED screeds long past the point any normal person would have, then they'd lock the thread. Cervantes' reaction? Why, start another thread beating the same dead horse. Repeat ad nauseum.
Admins would tell him to stop, he'd start another thread. Hell, if I were in charge of the show here rather than Ythan, it would have been stopped long ago. Cervantes got a lot longer run out of it than practically anyone other than Mother Theresa would have granted him.
As for this oft-repeated "pretending to address member's concerns" meme so beloved of Swami, what so many seem incapable of recognizing is that in a group containing tens of thousands of members, not every member is always going to get their way. Cervantes was told over and over and over again what the Admins had decided in this particular case. Yet he continued to bleat that "no one was LISTENING" to him. Bzzzzt! Wrong! The Admins were listening to him, they just weren't agreeing with him.
Cervantes had plenty of opportunities to accept the decision that was made and move on. He chose not to. Choices have consequences.
I'm quite frankly astonished this thread has been allowed to continue as long as it has. Nothing new is being discussed here -- just the same old "argument" that since not every member can always get what they want, this somehow proves "bias" and "tyranny" and all sorts of other horrible character flaws on the part of the Admins. These bloviating accusations would be hilariously amusing if they weren't so depressingly pathetic. What next? Accusations of fascism? Ythan = Hitler?
Y'all should just get a life. Jiggy and I agree on almost nothing, but I have to admit she pretty much nailed it a few posts back. I suggest y'all re-read her post.
Phred
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Icelander
The Minstrel in the Gallery
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Re: I like it not [Re: Phred]
#5173331 - 01/12/06 05:06 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Thanks for adding to the thread count Phred. 
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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Phred
Fred's son
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Re: I like it not [Re: Icelander]
#5173450 - 01/12/06 05:34 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Glad to be of service, Icelander.
Phred
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 Booby
Agent Mulder
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Re: I like it not [Re: Icelander]
#5173485 - 01/12/06 05:40 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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+1
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Let it not be remembered
That mycelium eats detritus and dies
But that life in all it's glory
Counts mycelium to be on it's side.
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MAIA
World-BridgerKartikeya (DftS)
Registered: 04/27/01
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Re: I like it not [Re: Phred]
#5173577 - 01/12/06 05:55 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Phred said:
Sigh.
What a bunch of crapola going on here.
Cervantes got permabanned because he kept pushing and PUSHING and PUSHING long after the point he was told to stop. There's nothing more complicated than that. No big conspiracy, no "bias". He'd start a thread, run it into the ground long past the point of reason, the admins would let him drone on and on with his lengthy whiny repetitive CAPS LOCK FILLED screeds long past the point any normal person would have, then they'd lock the thread. Cervantes' reaction? Why, start another thread beating the same dead horse. Repeat ad nauseum.
Admins would tell him to stop, he'd start another thread. Hell, if I were in charge of the show here rather than Ythan, it would have been stopped long ago. Cervantes got a lot longer run out of it than practically anyone other than Mother Theresa would have granted him.
As for this oft-repeated "pretending to address member's concerns" meme so beloved of Swami, what so many seem incapable of recognizing is that in a group containing tens of thousands of members, not every member is always going to get their way. Cervantes was told over and over and over again what the Admins had decided in this particular case. Yet he continued to bleat that "no one was LISTENING" to him. Bzzzzt! Wrong! The Admins were listening to him, they just weren't agreeing with him.
Cervantes had plenty of opportunities to accept the decision that was made and move on. He chose not to. Choices have consequences.
I'm quite frankly astonished this thread has been allowed to continue as long as it has. Nothing new is being discussed here -- just the same old "argument" that since not every member can always get what they want, this somehow proves "bias" and "tyranny" and all sorts of other horrible character flaws on the part of the Admins. These bloviating accusations would be hilariously amusing if they weren't so depressingly pathetic. What next? Accusations of fascism? Ythan = Hitler?
Y'all should just get a life. Jiggy and I agree on almost nothing, but I have to admit she pretty much nailed it a few posts back. I suggest y'all re-read her post.
Phred
I completely address yours and jiggy thoughts.
MAIA
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Spiritual being, living a human experience ... The Shroomery Mandala
 
Use, do not abuse; neither abstinence nor excess ever renders man happy.
Voltaire
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Icelander
The Minstrel in the Gallery
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Re: I like it not [Re: MAIA]
#5173604 - 01/12/06 06:00 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Duh! 
I would love for this thread to move off topic into some more grammer stuff or maybe something about sexy girls while still continuing the thread count. 
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― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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ELECTRIC
I'm a Puppet
Registered: 07/21/05
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 Re: All babies love attention :) [Re: Icelander]
#5174925 - 01/12/06 11:25 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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"I would love for this thread to move off topic..."
Oh yeah?
Fine then.
My sister just had a baby girl very recently. I spent X-Mas Eve at her place.
She LOVES talking gibberish already... ALOT!
I had some kind of conversation with her, but I have no idea what the topic was.
However, she seemed to enjoy the talk as much as I did.
I think she's pretty sweet!
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Nos confido phasmatis occultus in vicis postulo nostrum tutela donatus futurus.
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Icelander
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Re: All babies love attention :) [Re: ELECTRIC]
#5175793 - 01/13/06 07:32 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cool! But is this really off topic? Most of us have been acting like babies here. Having conversations with each other that are mostly gibberish and not knowing what the conversation is really about.
And didn't we all get our ya ya's off the drama.
Yes, unfortunately we are still on topic here.
Cute baby.
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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BlueCoyote
Beyond
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Re: All babies love attention :) [Re: Icelander]
#5176131 - 01/13/06 09:54 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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(thank g*d, I seem to be always invisible. I started to worry about how I would get my head out of MAIA's a**  )
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Cowgold
Bullshit
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Re: All babies love attention :) [Re: Icelander]
#5176445 - 01/13/06 10:55 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Can an omnipotent admin/mod make a law/rule for which even they/he can't break?
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Icelander
The Minstrel in the Gallery
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Re: All babies love attention :) [Re: BlueCoyote]
#5176481 - 01/13/06 11:05 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
BlueCoyote said:
(thank g*d, I seem to be always invisible. I started to worry about how I would get my head out of MAIA's a** )
nice edit.
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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fesuy
Stranger
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hi, you guys sure do have some great things to say about this character. i just registered becasue i figured it would be a good idea to do some asking about this hobby of mine as it has gone farther than my knowledge reaches. a few days ago, i ate three grams of mushrooms a friend of a friend grew and had my first bad trip (i've been taking hallucinogens for about a year and a half... not regularly, but semi-frequently, depending on what that means...) about a week and a half ago i ate the same dose of supposedly the same shrooms and had a wonderfully warm, cozy, amazing evening with no painful come-ups or downs and no painful introspective trap doors (or however youd describe that difficulty). i am just wondering what ya'll have to say about the extreme difference in experience. does your experience lead you to believe that the trip depends more on the strain/dose or on the tripper's mindset/environment? (my environment was the same both times: in my apartment, with my close friends but my mental stability lately is shakey.) my reading would lead me to believe that a chemical is a chemical, so it would more so be the later... but... the trip felt so much harder the second time, more like lsd, more trippy, you know...?
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Cowgold
Bullshit
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Re: hello [Re: fesuy]
#5176553 - 01/13/06 11:25 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Setting has a huge role in any psychedelic experience... make sure you get all responsibilities taken care of, careful who you trip with as well.
Setting has so much to do with it.
BTW you're quite off-topic here...
Welcome to the Shroomery!
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Icelander
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Re: hello [Re: Cowgold]
#5176562 - 01/13/06 11:27 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Actually in the wrong forum. Yet somehow it fits perfectly. It's a very mystical Universe. Right MAIA.
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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fesuy
Stranger
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ok so ill try and navigate this site, this forum was just the first that caught my eye... thanks anyway... enjoy
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Icelander
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Re: hello [Re: fesuy]
#5176583 - 01/13/06 11:33 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Welcome 
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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fireworks_god
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Re: hello [Re: fesuy]
#5176857 - 01/13/06 12:32 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
fesuy said:
ok so ill try and navigate this site, this forum was just the first that caught my eye... thanks anyway... enjoy
Cervantes' soul reincarnated!
 
Peace.
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If I should die this very moment
I wouldn't fear
For I've never known completeness
Like being here
Wrapped in the warmth of you
Loving every breath of you
  
 
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Icelander
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That's the first thing I thought of too.
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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geokills
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Icelander]
#5177856 - 01/13/06 04:21 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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 This thread has been closed.
Reason:
Allright, that's more than enough of this. If you didn't get out what you needed to say, you should work on more concise arguments in the future. If you don't like how the administration or moderators have handled past actions, deal with it on your own time. We're not trying to be assholes, and you may of course think what you will, but this is getting no where and is now KALOZED!!
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