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OfflineRonoM
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #5141090 - 01/04/06 09:03 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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Service? I see no services rendered




Then we are doing our jobs...


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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Rono]
    #5141098 - 01/04/06 09:04 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Oooh oooh!  I know this story...it's "The Emperor's New Clothes!"

What do I win??  :smirk:


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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Swami]
    #5141137 - 01/04/06 09:12 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Swami, we could do this song and dance all night. I will say something, then you will completely miss the point and try to steer the conversation to how hard you have it, and how irrational the Administration is. To which I will respond "like or leave it"...
I honestly don't know how to make it more simple for you...

What it comes down to is that we both have an inflated sense of self-importance here at the Shroomery, the main difference is that I can admit it...you can't.


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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Rono]
    #5141156 - 01/04/06 09:17 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Swami, we could do this song and dance all night.

Because I keep trying to talk about what is or is not acceptable content and you keep going far afield.

Whether my ego is overblown or not does not address the fact that I was given a speeding ticket while going well under the limit.


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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Swami]
    #5141202 - 01/04/06 09:24 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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I was given a speeding ticket while going well under the limit.




That's not for me to say..I didn't issue the ban.

But to be perfectly blunt, you can either suck it up and accept the fact that you got spanked, and leave it at that...or continue beating a long dead horse...

I would also like to add that this thread is not about you at all, until you decided to make it about you...thus confirming my point about your ego.


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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Rono]
    #5141217 - 01/04/06 09:28 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Cervantes, where fore art thou Cervantes. :grin:


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"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno." 


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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Rono]
    #5141234 - 01/04/06 09:31 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

you can either suck it up and accept the fact that you got spanked
As the purpose of such actions is to teach, what is the intended lesson to be learned?

I would also like to add that this thread is not about you at all
Then you are not paying attention. Cervantes got banned because he got involved on my behalf as he knew that the bans were unjust.


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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Rono]
    #5141246 - 01/04/06 09:34 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

you can either suck it up and accept the fact that you got spanked
As the purpose of such actions is to teach, what is the intended lesson to be learned?

I would also like to add that this thread is not about you at all
Then you are not paying attention. Cervantes got involved on my behalf as he knew that the bans were unjust. This led to his stepping down as a mod and eventual ban for speaking out and finding no resolution.

There still is none.


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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Swami]
    #5141251 - 01/04/06 09:35 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Double post. It must be true.


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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Swami]
    #5141292 - 01/04/06 09:43 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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As the purpose of such actions is to teach, what is the intended lesson to be learned?




The same lesson that I have been saying from the start over and over again...like or leave it, if a mod warns you for something, then heed the warning or suffer the consequences...and since we've established that the Administration does not need a reason to ban you, it would make sense to not piss them off would it not?

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Cervantes got banned because he got involved on my behalf as he knew that the bans were unjust.




Incorrect and incredibly (yet unsurprisingly) egotistical...Cervantes was not banned for getting involved on your behalf, he was banned for continuously making threads about it, (even after warnings) after an administrative consensus had already been reached and agreed upon.

Now if you have any questions about Cervantes that do not concern you I would be happy to try and answer them.


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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Rono]
    #5141315 - 01/04/06 09:47 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

I have a question. What's the chance of his ban being lifted?

And is he happy and having a good life? :grin:


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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Icelander]
    #5141329 - 01/04/06 09:50 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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What's the chance of his ban being lifted?




I honestly don't know...Personally I would like to see him back, but it is not my choice. I am sure that if he truly wanted to that he could just create another account if he hasn't already.


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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Rono]
    #5141350 - 01/04/06 09:56 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Well,Rono thanks for building up the post count and making this my biggest and bestest thread ever. :thumbup: :grin: I don't think I ever heard of you until this thread. It's been fun and you really stick to your guns. I have to go to bed now. My girl is sick and needs a warm bod next to her. Peace out. :heart:


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― Ernest Becker


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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Rono]
    #5141363 - 01/04/06 09:58 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

All power to the People!
And
Ban the fucking bomb!












Erm....

Unban!


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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Rono]
    #5141364 - 01/04/06 09:58 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

if a mod warns you for something, then heed the warning
This is the point that you keep missing: there was no non-heeding. I am not sure if you are being deliberately obtuse or are unable to comprehend.

If you get pulled over for doing 30 in a 45, you get a ticket and the cop says "One more time buster and you lose your license!" Next week, you are again going 30 in a 45 and your license is pulled because of your 'history' of non-heedance, what EXACTLY have you learned? To move to another state? To hate the police? Both?

Cervantes was not banned for getting involved on your behalf, he was banned for continuously making threads about it,
I understand that, but the ROOT cause that led down this path was unfair action followed by a lot of Admin blustering double-speak and complete non-resolution from the member's standpoint.

Now if you have any questions about Cervantes that do not concern you I would be happy to try and answer them.
The same way that Maia answered my questions earlier?

The same way that Cervantes' questions were answered?


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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Swami]
    #5141463 - 01/04/06 10:13 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

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what EXACTLY have you learned? To move to another state? To hate the police? Both?




FINALLY...You get it!

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I understand that...but the ROOT cause...




If you understand it then we are done here...the ROOT cause is irrelevant, his reactions to it are the reason he was banned, not for his opinions.

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The same way that Maia answered my questions earlier?

The same way that Cervantes' questions were answered?






Are those your Questions?...in that case then my answers are:
1) No...In case you haven't noticed, I am not as nice as Maia and have answered your questions quite bluntly leaving you little room for misinterpretation.

2) Since I don't recall Cervantes asking me any questions, I would have to say No.


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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Rono]
    #5141577 - 01/04/06 10:31 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

FINALLY...You get it!
So as heeding or not heeding may lead to the same action, why would you make a point of saying one must heed? Seems psychotic.

the ROOT cause is irrelevant
And therein lies the whole problem. Why did you even bother coming into this thread? You have no desire to resolve anything unless one considers a boot on the neck as resolution.

and have answered your questions quite bluntly leaving you little room for misinterpretation.
Sorry, you failed to answer a single question. Merely typing words doesn't count as you have clarified only that you are apathetic and heavy-handed. Wife-beaters think that they too, have communicated with a well-placed backhand. Communication takes place where both parties are eager to understand and on the same level, not when one acquiesces out of fear.


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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Swami]
    #5141670 - 01/04/06 10:51 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Here are the facts as I see them, although I suspect that you will somehow twist this so it is about you again.

Fact: This thread is about Cervantes banning...not yours.
Fact: Cervantes was warned by the Administration, and he chose to ignore the warnings...hence his banning.
Fact: The Shroomery is a privately owned site not a Democracy.
Fact: It is written in plain English that the Administration reserves the right to Ban anyone at anytime for any reason
Fact: If you have a Problem with the way the Shroomery is run, then you can take your case to an Admin.
Fact: Once an Administrative action is taken, you need to accept it or post elsewhere...it is not open for debate after the fact.
Fact: I am Egotistical, Heavy Handed and Straight forward.
Fact: A well placed back hand is often necessary when one does not listen to logic.
Fact: You are the only one that doesn't seem to get it.


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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Rono]
    #5141715 - 01/04/06 11:02 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Cerv should just make a puppet and come back. It doesn't seem as if anyone cares when banned users do this.


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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Rono]
    #5141740 - 01/04/06 11:08 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Fact: Cervantes was warned by the Administration, and he chose to ignore the warnings...hence his banning.

Fact: Heeded warnings may result in a banning so what is the point of having any procedure whatsoever? The hence part is superfluous.


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