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 Icelander
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 My guess is no one really cares 
#5130606 - 01/02/06 07:34 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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That someone who fought for justice and really tried to help the Shroomery, has been silenced with a ban. But I want all of you to know that I care. It's part of my philosophy to care without being attached. I miss Cervantes. 
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"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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redgreenvines
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Icelander]
#5130629 - 01/02/06 07:50 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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huh?
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Icelander
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: redgreenvines]
#5130642 - 01/02/06 07:57 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Exactly 
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“What is the ideal for mental health, then? A lived, compelling illusion that does not lie about life, death, and reality; one honest enough to follow its own commandments: I mean, not to kill, not to take the lives of others to justify itself.”
― Ernest Becker
"Beneath the civilized veneer, man remains the supreme predator. Cursed with what he believes is understanding, his true soul blossoms godlike in the heart of the nuclear inferno."
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Sinbad
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Icelander]
#5130656 - 01/02/06 08:10 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Why was Cervantes banned?
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dorkus
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Icelander]
#5130658 - 01/02/06 08:12 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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WTF!?
On what grounds?
He really put in an effort for this place. Great man.
Edited by dr_mandelbrot (01/02/06 08:14 AM)
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 fireworks_god
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Icelander]
#5130672 - 01/02/06 08:20 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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It isn't such that no one really cares, its just that expressing any concern subsequently results in oneself becoming banned.
Tyrants utilize their power to thwart their "opponents". They have no need to address problems raised directly. I do not know of the exact occurence related to this, but I am sure that it follows the exact same pattern that has been revealed every time someone else is forced away in such a manner.
And guess what? This thread is to be declared off-topic, and no doubt Shroomism will be along shortly to lock it. Why? Because this is not the appropriate place to discuss these issues?
And where is this place? We used to think that it would be appropriate within Website Announcements and Feedback, but yet the truth has been revealed to be that there simply is no place in which to express such concerns. We are only alloted to give feedback when it is not negative, or recurrent when no one properly addresses them (when they are ignored, then locked when the thread gets too long and we are all too busy to deal with it, and then banned when they decide they do not like you any more).
Towards what you said concerning care without attachment, I'd like to say that it is a good thing that, while I enjoy participating in this website, I am not attached to it, because it is completely fucked up that immaturity seems to be bountiful within certain individuals who are able to exercise power here.  Perhaps even the most potent mushroom could not even begin to dissolve their raging ego.  It is pathetic to see some of the most prolific contributors that have greatly benefited this website go in such a pitiful circumstance. 
 
Peace. 
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: fireworks_god]
#5130840 - 01/02/06 09:54 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
fireworks_god said:
It isn't such that no one really cares, its just that expressing any concern subsequently results in oneself becoming banned.
Tyrants utilize their power to thwart their "opponents". They have no need to address problems raised directly. I do not know of the exact occurence related to this, but I am sure that it follows the exact same pattern that has been revealed every time someone else is forced away in such a manner.
And guess what? This thread is to be declared off-topic, and no doubt Shroomism will be along shortly to lock it. Why? Because this is not the appropriate place to discuss these issues?
And where is this place? We used to think that it would be appropriate within Website Announcements and Feedback, but yet the truth has been revealed to be that there simply is no place in which to express such concerns. We are only alloted to give feedback when it is not negative, or recurrent when no one properly addresses them (when they are ignored, then locked when the thread gets too long and we are all too busy to deal with it, and then banned when they decide they do not like you any more).
Towards what you said concerning care without attachment, I'd like to say that it is a good thing that, while I enjoy participating in this website, I am not attached to it, because it is completely fucked up that immaturity seems to be bountiful within certain individuals who are able to exercise power here. Perhaps even the most potent mushroom could not even begin to dissolve their raging ego. It is pathetic to see some of the most prolific contributors that have greatly benefited this website go in such a pitiful circumstance.
Peace.
MAIA
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Silversoul
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Icelander]
#5130885 - 01/02/06 10:21 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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What's funny is I remember when I used to think he was an overzealous moderator. I really admired the guts it took for him to step down from his position in order to do what's right. Unfortunately, many of the higher-ups seem to think that any significant criticism of the job they're doing is an attack on the Shroomery itself(particularly if their criticism hits too close to home). What's sad is that Cervantez, more than just about any other mod I've seen, really did try to make the Shroomery a better place. He was even willing to give up his modship for the cause. Sadly, too many others would rather hold on to the reigns of power than actually do something positive for this place.
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Swami
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: fireworks_god]
#5130983 - 01/02/06 11:07 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Icelander]
#5131059 - 01/02/06 11:39 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Please keep this all in this thread and I won't need to lock or move it. Oh and no personal attacks please.... Thanks!
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Redstorm
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Icelander]
#5131067 - 01/02/06 11:42 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cervantes got banned? How did I miss this? What a fucking travesty. We should all submit support tickets asking for the removal of the ban, since they seem to worship the support process.
Cervantes was the only moderator who has ever banned me, yet he was one of my favorites of all-time.
For shame. 
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Swami
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Redstorm]
#5131144 - 01/02/06 12:10 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Administration: We love feedback and you are invited to contact us with any comments, suggestions or criticism.
Translation: Unless you disagree with us then that is a different story. By criticism, we mean small insignificant stuff like a font style or color or something, not a questioning of our actions. All punitive actions will be accompanied by an explanation of the rule violation so that the offender may better understand why he is being reprimanded except in those rare cases where you did nothing wrong except to really piss us off and then piss us off even more for pointing out our going outside standard procedure and griping about it, instead of taking it 'like a man'.
Some ACTUAL Swami violation explanations:
"You KNOW what you did!" (Um, yes that certainly clarifies.  )
"JUST STOP IT!" (What could more explicit?)
"While your post in no way violated the rules, your history of previous non-violations added to this one qualifies you for a ban."
"If anyone else had posted this, there would not have been a problem, but because of your record, we must consider this offensive. You are hereby warned."
"There is nothing in your words that would elicit a ban, per se, but WE KNOW WHAT YOUR MALICIOUS INTENT WAS (evidence of ESP?) and consider the Howard quote a form of baiting; therefore you are perm-banned from the Mysticism Forum."
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redgreenvines
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Swami]
#5131250 - 01/02/06 12:41 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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this thread is never going to be locked and anyone can say anything unless it ought to be in Off-Topic Discussion
which contains content that many will find extremely offensive.
which makes me wonder if 2 truths can be mutually exclusive.
or even true in the first place
let's see - using first principles
in the beginning there was the forum, and with the forum was the moderator.
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Swami
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: redgreenvines]
#5131293 - 01/02/06 12:49 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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in the beginning there was the forum, and with the forum was the moderator.
And the Creator formed the Avatar and saw that it was good and he was well-pleased...
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Swami]
#5131305 - 01/02/06 12:52 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Creator? What is the scientific basis of your claim? Links, please. 
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Silversoul
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Veritas]
#5131342 - 01/02/06 01:00 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Veritas said:
Creator? What is the scientific basis of your claim? Links, please.
Quit persecuting his beliefs. Moderator!!! 
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redgreenvines
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Veritas]
#5131352 - 01/02/06 01:02 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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I love his avatar
holy jeesus
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Veritas
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: Silversoul]
#5131353 - 01/02/06 01:02 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Wrong forum.
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MushmanTheManic
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Re: My guess is no one really cares [Re: redgreenvines]
#5131374 - 01/02/06 01:07 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
redgreenvines said:
huh?
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SneezingPenis
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what do swami and cervantes have in common here?....
Seems to me that drastic banning actions are taken only when relentless inquisitions are aimed at top mods regarding "complaining about complaining".
Even cervantes buried himself and his "quest" in the side-rails and peripheral arguments. In the end, the entire point for the original argument was lost and swami/cervantes both found themselves arguing about the appropriate actions regarding their own "freedom fighting" tactics, and ceased to "freedom fight" for whatever cause they originally began arguing about.
I dont care one way or the other if cervantes is perma-banned, but lets not climb up on the cross so soon.
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