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ShroomsLover
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How do i smoke shrooms?
#4959166 - 11/20/05 09:09 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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What do i have to do if i want to smoke shrooms? anny one got a resepe?
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HELLA_TIGHT
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: ShroomsLover]
#4959168 - 11/20/05 09:10 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Don't smoke mushrooms... eat them.
Heat destroys psilocybin.
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ShroomsLover
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#4959173 - 11/20/05 09:13 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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ok, did not know that. thanks
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Prisoner#1
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: ShroomsLover]
#4959181 - 11/20/05 09:17 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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ShroomsLover said: What do i have to do if i want to smoke shrooms?
the same way you smoke a ham or bacon
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mediman0078
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#4959207 - 11/20/05 09:25 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
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ShroomsLover said: What do i have to do if i want to smoke shrooms?
the same way you smoke a ham or bacon
Don't forget the hickory chips.
Who started this "you can smoke shrooms" thing anyway? I bet that would hurt like hell. There must be quite a few people out there that believe in order to do a drug, you must smoke it.... **BUZZ** "the price is wrong"
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HELLA_TIGHT
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: mediman0078]
#4959225 - 11/20/05 09:30 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Everyone knows the universal way to get fucked up is snort the shit.
I'd like to see someone snort 5 grams of powdered mushrooms.
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#4959240 - 11/20/05 09:37 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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ow fucking ow... I'd like to see that too.
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HELLA_TIGHT
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: mediman0078]
#4959245 - 11/20/05 09:38 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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I snorted like, 10 hits of LSD once.
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HELLA_TIGHT
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#4959246 - 11/20/05 09:38 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Then I snorted 5 lines of whiskey.
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#4959265 - 11/20/05 09:44 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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I smoked acid out of a gravity bong once, holy shit was that cool.
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HELLA_TIGHT
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i heard smoking acid turns it into strychnine making it liek 12 times more potent?
fuck that dude.
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InTheFlesh714
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umm nope. you either destroyed the acid or you didnt even smoke acid and your lying to everyone or you smoked some other hallucinogen, maybe salvia?
LSD will be destroyed before the lighter even gets close to it. LSD is very heat sensative
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BLAST_420
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this is what happens when you smoke shrooms
and this is what happens when you eat them
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Trav
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I have a hunch he was joking.
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DinahTheCat
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: Trav]
#4959293 - 11/20/05 09:53 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah he also said that he did lines of whiskey, I think that implies he was just kidding...
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HELLA_TIGHT
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InTheFlesh714 said: umm nope. you either destroyed the acid or you didnt even smoke acid and your lying to everyone or you smoked some other hallucinogen, maybe salvia?
LSD will be destroyed before the lighter even gets close to it. LSD is very heat sensative
I believe you don't know what you're talking about.
Sounds like you're thinking of marijuana buds, which can be super sensitive to heat. You're only supposed to smoke the leaf.
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OneMoreRobot3021
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InTheFlesh714 said: umm nope. you either destroyed the acid or you didnt even smoke acid and your lying to everyone or you smoked some other hallucinogen, maybe salvia?
LSD will be destroyed before the lighter even gets close to it. LSD is very heat sensative
I was teh joking.
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HELLA_TIGHT
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Don't lie.
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#4959320 - 11/20/05 09:58 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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HELLA_TIGHT said: Everyone knows the universal way to get fucked up is snort the shit.
I'd like to see someone snort 5 grams of powdered mushrooms.
That reminds me. I knew this guy, Eli, that pwdered up some shrooms and snorted them, on a dare.
It made him hurl.
What a dumbass.
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BLAST_420
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: blissedout]
#4959330 - 11/20/05 10:03 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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try snorting some wasabi mixed with soy sauce
Edited by BLAST_420 (11/20/05 10:03 AM)
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HELLA_TIGHT
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: BLAST_420]
#4959337 - 11/20/05 10:05 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'll bet you can't snort as much bleach as I can.
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: BLAST_420]
#4959340 - 11/20/05 10:05 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Jackass styley! No thanks.
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Prisoner#1
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: BLAST_420]
#4959348 - 11/20/05 10:09 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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try plugging a habanero pepper
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HELLA_TIGHT
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#4959350 - 11/20/05 10:10 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fibless japs are better.
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mediman0078
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#4959352 - 11/20/05 10:11 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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y'all are as bored as I am, aren't ya....
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DinahTheCat
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: mediman0078]
#4959360 - 11/20/05 10:12 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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No fucking snort ground up glass it fucks you up so much man, Dude i once tripped balls for 200000-days after snorting Mexican Yellow Salamander glass.
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DinahTheCat
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: mediman0078]
#4959362 - 11/20/05 10:13 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah pretty much
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blissedout
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: DinahTheCat]
#4959371 - 11/20/05 10:16 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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DinahTheCat said: No fucking snort ground up glass it fucks you up so much man, Dude i once tripped balls for 200000-days after snorting Mexican Yellow Salamander glass.
That shit is hard to find, because it is horded and protected by 2 fierce animals. The Zimbabwe mud clucker telephone snake and the caucasian beak-fingered lion parrot.
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HELLA_TIGHT
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: mediman0078]
#4959380 - 11/20/05 10:19 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#4959385 - 11/20/05 10:21 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hella, you know that someone else has plagarized your avatar? I saw it last night, in OTD.
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HELLA_TIGHT
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: blissedout]
#4959388 - 11/20/05 10:21 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Paradis got it at the same time as me!
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: HELLA_TIGHT]
#4959392 - 11/20/05 10:23 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, that's who it was. That's lame. Someone should change theirs. I liked your Kramer one.
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Stonerguy
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: blissedout]
#4959401 - 11/20/05 10:24 AM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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blissedout said: Yeah, that's who it was. That's lame. Someone should change theirs. I liked your Kramer one.
Yes change it back to kramer or even back to "choke a bitch"
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Silversoul
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: ShroomsLover]
#4959892 - 11/20/05 01:20 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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You smoke them with some beer and some weed.
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HeavyToilet
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: ShroomsLover]
#4959910 - 11/20/05 01:23 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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The best way to smoke mushrooms:
Put the shroom powder into the barrel of a loaded handgun, put the end of the gun in your mouth and pull the trigger.
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: mediman0078]
#4959984 - 11/20/05 01:39 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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mediman0078 said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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ShroomsLover said: What do i have to do if i want to smoke shrooms?
the same way you smoke a ham or bacon
Don't forget the hickory chips.
cherry is better.
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KidgardFromSRQ
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: blink]
#4960088 - 11/20/05 01:58 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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u know if u eat shrooms the day later u can smoke your poop if you dry it out right.
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DinahTheCat
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I love glasss mannn i can kill those beassstts
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PyroCin
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: DinahTheCat]
#4960138 - 11/20/05 02:09 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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eat them or shove them up you ass to absorb the magic ..
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ShroomArtist84
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#4960246 - 11/20/05 02:32 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Prisoner#1 said:
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ShroomsLover said: What do i have to do if i want to smoke shrooms?
the same way you smoke a ham or bacon
hahahahhahahah
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: ShroomsLover]
#4960275 - 11/20/05 02:37 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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I started to laugh, then i relized my old best friend used to snort lines of mushroom powder and jack daniels, ewwwww
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Fospher
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: BobJizze]
#4960487 - 11/20/05 03:41 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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You can smoke shrooms, just cant apply heat directly, a la Don Juan.
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dirdyAus
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: Fospher]
#4960553 - 11/20/05 03:56 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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One could smoke amanita i believe and get effects,but not cubes.
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: dirdyAus]
#4960888 - 11/20/05 05:42 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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General concensus around the board is that smoking shrooms does jack, because large amounts of heat destroys the goodies.
But erowid has conflicting information...
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I'd say the question of Psilocybin + Heat is no longer a controversy, its a misunderstanding coupled with incomplete data. I think the open question is whether all dried mushrooms can be boiled without significant loss or whether some types react better or worse to this treatment.
Sub-boiling or lightly boiling water does not noticably reduce the activity of dried Psilocybe cubensis. Many people ingest their mushrooms as tea without needing to increase the quantity used. We know of people who regularly boil their mushrooms for up to 30 mins before drinking the resulting liquid. All fully active. The hotter the water, the better. The water should be at least slightly acidic, but psilocybin is highly water soluable.
So, the experience of many people says it works. Smoking mushrooms can work, but most mushrooms aren't terribly potent so you need to smoke a lot of mushrooms to get a strong effect (imagine smoking 2 grams of mushrooms ! yuck!). But many reliable sources report a mild effect at smoking a bowl or two and this is potentiated by other entheogens (LSD specifically).
However, this is not to say that psilocin, another active chemical, won't break down quickly in boiling water (it probably will). Different types of mushrooms contain differing ratios of psilocybin to psilocin, so it seems quite possible that different strains would fare differently with boiling or hot water extractions. There is evidence to suggest that some degree of potency loss occurs if Psilocybe cyanescens are heated by a method such as boiling.
http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_info7.shtml
Psilocybin Has a higher melting point than psilocin.
Psilocybin
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Crystals from Boiling water, mp 220-228?; from boiling methanol, mp 185-195?
Psilocin
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Plates from methanol, mp 173-176?
Those figures taken from Erowid. http://www.erowid.org/plants/mushrooms/mushrooms_chemistry.shtml
So, the jury is still technically out. I personlly, think it is indeed possible, but in order for it to work it must be a lower temp then we think. If your taking rips out of a bong while holding a lighter too it... yeah thats going to fuck it over 400 degrees. While, if a person was to roll a joint with some powdered shrooms near the roach end....IT just might work.
I doubt you'ed ever see the same results as eating them, but I have several friends who swear by the joint method. Also, it has passed blind tests in that respect, people unknowing that shrooms have been encased in said joint, noted shroom like effects despite not eating them. Then it was told to them that shrooms were given to them without warning. (too much weed makes one forget)
So, yes I think it could be done, however.... its going to need indirect heat, as your more over trying to vaporize the shroom material than you are trying to directly smoke it...
If that makes any sense at all.
And on a side note
From the erowid page
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Plates from methanol, mp 173-176?. Amphoteric substance. Unstable in soln, esp. akaline soln. Very slightly sol in water. uv max: 222, 260, 267, 283, 293nm (log E 4.6, 3.7, 3.8, 3.7, 3.6).
Perhaps the reason the lemon water experiment is potentating the shrooms, is the fact it makes the solution acidic instead of possibly being akaline, possibly preserving more of the psilocin than if your tap water is naturally basic. That might explain the mixed results, if people already have slightly acidic water they will not see the change and potentaion as apposed to if their water source is naturally akaline.
Just some food for thought.
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Deviate
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what about vaporzing them?
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: Deviate]
#4961403 - 11/20/05 07:32 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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someone made a point about this a few weeks/months ago. his theory was the shrooms that get burnt in the cherry are destroyed, but the heat they give off passes through the joint to the rest of the shrooms vaporizing the psilocybin/psilocin.
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: Fospher]
#4961582 - 11/20/05 08:11 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fospher said: You can smoke shrooms, just cant apply heat directly, a la Don Juan.
I've posted a direct quote from Castaneda's books a few times. I'd rather not search for it again, but you can probably search for "Juan" in combination with my name in the appropriate field.
He did not smoke the mushrooms. They were actually ground down and eaten. But since those postings and clarifications, I've come to realize something: Castaneda was full of shit. There is plenty of literature around that makes it quite clear that he was just making shit up the majority of the time. It is very interesting, well written fiction, but don't attempt to use the information you get from it for anything specific. In fact, don't use it at all besides the lesson of being more openminded to the world.
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: Koala Koolio]
#4961611 - 11/20/05 08:21 PM (18 years, 4 months ago) |
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I was the one talking that the cherry without a doubt would destroy the psilocin and whatnot. But, the tempeture does drop enough that potentially, you could vaporize some of the psilocybin. Most likely the Psilocin is destroyed, thus the effects of smoking being much milder. If at all present. I just like playing devils advocate on this issue...Because could it all be placebo, yes. Could the be some legitimacy... yes.
Its just like the fact you can get high off of bong "resin" Supposedly, the THC should all be vaporized or removed when you smoke the bud... However you can get high off of the tar. Proving that despite the fact that THC vaporizes at a specific tempature, not all of the THC is moved, because not all the weed is exposed to the temp of the lighter, and combustion is incomplete.
I will still state that for shrooms to work even in theory, they must not be exposed to direct heat. If powdered shrooms where exposed to roughly 180-190 degrees, there would be some psilocybin vaporized. Although, I am pretty sure that the psilocin would ultimately be destroyed.
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: Fospher]
#18990653 - 10/17/13 12:07 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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I tripped by smoking them
a friend gave me a full bowl in a pipe dry powdered shrooms
he held the liter to it for a sec then told me to finish it without the flame
started to come up 5 mins after it, peaked at about half and hour in
lasted for and hour very light visuals but very pleasant
before this i never experienced visuals with any drug
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You don't. There is no "resapea" it's not like crack.
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: GreySatyr]
#18991060 - 10/17/13 01:54 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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ChinChiller
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People have been posting on 5+ year old thread recently...a lot.
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: ChinChiller]
#18991086 - 10/17/13 01:59 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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AHAHAAAAHAHAAAHAHAHAHA
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russhroom
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I had a pressie that contained MDA and 2c-i, and there was a liquid dose dropped on it. I snorted it for shits and giggles. Can't tell if the L fucked me up because of the combo, but I snorted L none the less.
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: russhroom]
#18991472 - 10/17/13 03:25 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh sick fuck me
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magikmushies
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Registered: 10/16/13
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Re: How do i smoke shrooms? [Re: russhroom]
#18993563 - 10/17/13 11:11 PM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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You just smoke them. I tried it once and it didn't do anything what so ever. I personally wouldn't recommend it as it's just a waste of shrooms, however I've heard people say they did feel something from it so I guess you'll just have to try for yourself!
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