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smokeable ''opium'' from dried pods
    #4844474 - 10/24/05 03:52 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

So let me get this straight:

If I freeze some pod tea made from dried pods, then froze that until it's half way frozen, then strain out the ice and then concentrate the resulting liquid down, then I will have have smokeable putty from dried pods?

I spent a shitload of time trying to find an answer to the question ''how do I get opium from dried pods'' and this is the best answer I can come up with. Please offer any info.


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Re: smokeable ''opium'' from dried pods [Re: Anonymous]
    #4844513 - 10/24/05 04:21 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

well if you want opium from dried pods I beleive it's easiest to just make a tea from them.

Don't quote me on that though, regurgitated info


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Re: smokeable ''opium'' from dried pods [Re: Konnrade]
    #4844517 - 10/24/05 04:23 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I obviously know you can make tea, but you can't smoke tea, now can you?


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Re: smokeable ''opium'' from dried pods [Re: Anonymous]
    #4844523 - 10/24/05 04:28 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I don't know the answer unfortunately, but I do know that MycoCakeEater has posted lots of similar information.  I believe he(?) even posted an opium poppy FAQ at one point, might be worth a search.  :thumbup:


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Re: smokeable ''opium'' from dried pods [Re: Drink_Punk_Soda]
    #4844532 - 10/24/05 04:32 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I'll try some more another day, I guess. I literally spents hours trying to find this info.


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Re: smokeable ''opium'' from dried pods [Re: Anonymous]
    #4844538 - 10/24/05 04:34 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

paradis said:
I obviously know you can make tea, but you can't smoke tea, now can you?




classic.

if you can get tea you can boil it down and smokes what's left. And don't say that that will make you go blind, because that's, like, the opposite of what happens.






no, i'm not serious


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Re: smokeable ''opium'' from dried pods [Re: recalcitrant]
    #4844567 - 10/24/05 04:55 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

No way d00d, opium makes you see better?  :tongue2:

Here's the thread I was referring to.  Anyone interested might want to check out the Usage section (section 4 I think.)  Enjoy!

MycoCakeEater's Complete Guide to Opium


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Re: smokeable ''opium'' from dried pods [Re: Anonymous]
    #4844590 - 10/24/05 05:18 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I really need to plant a few of the giganthemum poppies in my backyard. I could use a dose of opium every now and then.


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Re: smokeable ''opium'' from dried pods [Re: Konnrade]
    #4844601 - 10/24/05 05:28 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Konnrade said:
I really need to plant a few of the giganthemum poppies in my backyard. I could use a dose of opium every now and then.




I think everyone could  :grin: :grin: :grin:


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Re: smokeable ''opium'' from dried pods [Re: Rustifer]
    #4844676 - 10/24/05 06:35 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I tried this summer to make a smokeable product of dried pots . The end result was extremly weak compared to opium made the traditional way. Maybe i screwed up.


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Re: smokeable ''opium'' from dried pods [Re: shamantra]
    #4848034 - 10/25/05 12:35 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

naw, I'd say there's a reason that the "traditional way" got to be such a tradition, it works quite well. Cutting the plant while it's still alive allows it to just bleed out what you need, which dries and thickens while it collects, essentially cutting all the work out of extracting the actives from it. Of course some is left, which is why drying the pod and making tea sounds like a good idea. Extracting from dried pods is gonna be a lot harder than bleeding the plants for their treasured opium.

I'm seriously considering some giganthemum seeds, I'm gonna go hit the sponsors and check for them  :tongue:.


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Re: smokeable ''opium'' from dried pods [Re: Konnrade]
    #4848070 - 10/25/05 12:40 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I'd be interested if you find a good source among the sponsors. Let us know what you find out!


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Re: smokeable ''opium'' from dried pods [Re: Drink_Punk_Soda]
    #4851229 - 10/25/05 07:02 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

http://www.shamanspalace.com//product_info.php?products_id=89

When I tried to checkout it seemed they were short on supply of the giganteums, but they have persian whites, which are also a good option.


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Re: smokeable ''opium'' from dried pods [Re: Konnrade]
    #4851711 - 10/25/05 09:41 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

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it seemed they were short on supply of the giganteums




Funny, I think SP has given me a free pack with every oder. I've got a bunch if anyone wants to trade for another genus. I thought the gigs were pretty low on alk content?

Has anyone tried this?

Originally posted by Shaganoz:

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I took 5 dried pods, grinded them up to powder
Put the powder in a pot
Added 2 cups of water
added 1/2 cup vinegar
Heatet it until it started to boil, turned down heat so it simmered for 10 minutes, stirred alot the whole time
Turned off the oven and let the solution steep for 20 minutes
Strained the solution with a strainer into a mug to get rid of plant rests (squeeze all juice out of the plant rests inside a t-short or some cloth)
Filtered the solution through a fine grade filter (something like coffe filter) to get rid of more plant materials/sludge
Added ammonia to the solution until you see a precipitate form in the clear filtered solution, add until it doesnt get cloudier anymore.
Filter through a VERY fine filter, i used one from a "Bubble Bag" set.
The crystalized alkaloids (morphine etc) will be left in the filter as a sludge, pour some clean water over it while in the filter to wash it and get rid of ammonia etc.
Then I poured some naphta over it to convert it into hcl salt (smokeable) and let it dry for a while, scraped off the stuff with a credit card and dried it a bit more before I smoked it.

After you add the ammonia you may heat the solution to boiling point and turn off heat and the alkaloid crystals will coagulate a bit and settle down on bottom. Makes it a bit easier to filter and get rid of liquid and keep the alkaloid crystal sludge.




I didn't have much success with that, but hey, I can't even follow the manske for harmaline, so your results may vary.


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Re: smokeable ''opium'' from dried pods [Re: namaste]
    #4852443 - 10/25/05 11:56 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I would think you'd have to add HCl to convert ANYTHING to the HCl salt form. Last I knew naptha didnt have HCl in it.


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Re: smokeable ''opium'' from dried pods [Re: Konnrade]
    #4852818 - 10/26/05 12:58 AM (8 years, 10 months ago)

You're right, whenever I decide do something worthwhile with my pods (besides the time I ate two fully ground :grin:) I'll probably follow Wiccan_Seeker's recipe:

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The best way to extract for a couple (2 adults) is to mix the juice of one-half lemon into 1 liter of water laced with four big tablespoons of honey. (use the Conversion Tables of the link and go metric dammit!) and devide it into two halves. Stir the ground poppyheads (1-10 grams of known strength per person) through half a liter of icecold lemonwater and keep it in the refrigerator for 2 hours.
Strain through a cloth, then stir the grounds through the other half-liter and sit it next to the other extract in the fridge for one more hour. Now strain the liquid through a cloth (the grounds are useless) combine the liquids, distribute relative to bodyweight or preference and drink the icecold liquid down on an -empty stomach- which is by no means as unpleasant as drinking tea.
This "refrigerator macerate" is the -only- extraction which leaves the Opium intact, as temperatures over 60'c ruin meconic acid and thereby other "useless stuff" which actually make the Opium.

I STRONGLY DISRECOMMEND USING OPIOIDS. DO --NOT-- USE THEM, BUT IF YOU MUST DO IT RESPONSIBLY OR EVERYTHING YOU EVER WERE OR WANTED TO BE MAY DIE YEARS BEFORE YOUR BODY DOES. YOU DO --NOT-- WANT ADDICTION TO POPPYHEAD CONCOCTIONS: ONCE ADDICTED YOU ARE AS FAR GONE AS HEROIN JUNKIES. I PROVIDE THIS INFORMATION TO PREVENT AGONIZING ADDICTION AND DEATH OF THOSE WHO CHOSE TO DANCE WITH THE DEMON








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