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 Re: Should we be allowed to... (poll)  [Re: Az0th]
#4793365 - 10/12/05 04:57 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes you can argue the points.. as long as you are not calling someone's ideas stupid or some such.
What if you are the originator of a thread and so can't be mocking anyone or calling their ideas stupid since nobody but you has posted so far?
Or is S&M ONLY for posts proactive in support of mysticism and no discussion that doesn't actively further that goal is allowed?
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"The axioms for a group are short and natural... Yet somehow hidden behind these axioms is the monster simple group, a huge and extraordinary mathematical object, which appears to rely on numerous bizarre coincidences to exist. The axioms for groups give no obvious hint that anything like this exists." -- Richard Borcherds
If there is a creator, he definitely has a sense of humor.
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 Re: Should we be allowed to... (poll) [Re: Diploid]
#4794406 - 10/12/05 08:16 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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this thread cracks me up. you all are trying so hard to spare one anothers feeling by not questioning each other. thats stupid. merely by having a seperate forum you are drawing like minded people to yourselves. this in itself will reduce tensions. have the mods on guard for active agitators *cough*diploid*cough*swami*cough* who set out to undermine the premises of several beliefs, and get on with discussing OBE's, fairies or whatever. don't be such a bunch of fragile sissies. if you can't handle being questioned on your beliefs then really, what are you doing posting them on a public forum? the internet is full of plenty of people who won't agree with you. get over it.
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Re: Should we be allowed to... (poll) [Re: psychomime]
#4794532 - 10/12/05 08:32 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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don't be such a bunch of fragile sissies. if you can't handle being questioned on your beliefs then really, what are you doing posting them on a public forum?
First, you're being an agitator here. Second, that's the whole premise of this thread...we want to be able to question eachother's beliefs, in a respectful manner. 
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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"
"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer
Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.
"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln
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Re: Should we be allowed to... (poll) [Re: dblaney]
#4794707 - 10/12/05 09:01 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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we want to be able to question eachother's beliefs, in a respectful manner.
so don't let "those who can't handle discussion" stop you from doing that. like i said the internet is full of people who won't agree with you. My God, how do you people interact in real life? do you preface every opinion expressed in RL with "please don't question my beliefs or the foundation of my beliefs"? or do you surround yourself with yesmen so that you'll never be challenged to change your ideas?
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Re: Should we be allowed to... (poll) [Re: psychomime]
#4794741 - 10/12/05 09:07 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I trust you voted Yes in the poll?
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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"
"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer
Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.
"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln
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Re: Should we be allowed to... (poll) [Re: dblaney]
#4794782 - 10/12/05 09:17 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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i did. i voted yes. I'm all for respectful questioning but i see this "no questioning others beliefs" as thought police. the split groups the poles of S&P into happier groups and i'm glad for that. I still like visiting both and will comment in threads of interest but i will not censor myself in case i injure a fragile ego. if someone is sprouting obvious BS I'm going to call him/her on that.
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dblaney
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Re: Should we be allowed to... (poll) [Re: dblaney]
#4798049 - 10/13/05 01:26 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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bump
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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"
"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer
Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.
"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln
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Re: Should we be allowed to... (poll) [Re: dblaney]
#4799047 - 10/13/05 04:56 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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This whole thread is a mockery of this gentile forum and I PMed a mod.
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dblaney
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Re: Should we be allowed to... (poll) [Re: Swami]
#4800052 - 10/13/05 08:18 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm sorry you feel that way.
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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"
"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer
Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.
"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln
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Re: Should we be allowed to... (poll) [Re: psychomime]
#4801059 - 10/13/05 11:57 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Most people are bolder on the internet than in real life.
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~Thought Creates Reality~
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Re: Should we be allowed to... (poll) [Re: Cervantes]
#4801316 - 10/14/05 12:53 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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We can only judge posts, not the attitude of the poster.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha hah ha hah!
Right.
"While you never technically broke a rule, we KNOW what you are up to!"
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Re: Should we be allowed to... (poll) [Re: Az0th]
#4801344 - 10/14/05 12:58 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes you can argue the points.. as long as you are not calling someone's ideas stupid or some such.
Yes, we would hate for anyone to break the false connection between their idea and their essence, like all religions try to teach. People should remain stuck in egoistic identification as a way to preclude growth.
Stupid ideas instead should be praised and glorified.
P1: "When I drink Drano, God talks to me."
P2: "How wonderful. Keep up the good work and do it more often."
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The proof is in the pudding.
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Re: Should we be allowed to... (poll) [Re: Swami]
#4802485 - 10/14/05 07:27 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes, we would hate for anyone to break the false connection between their idea and their essence, like all religions try to teach. People should remain stuck in egoistic identification as a way to preclude growth.
Stupid ideas instead should be praised and glorified.
Red herring.
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P1: "When I drink Drano, God talks to me."
P2: "How wonderful. Keep up the good work and do it more often."
If you think spiritual expression is a "stupid idea", why posting here ?
Ideas can be stupid, crazy, whatever ... doesn't mean they can't be discussed or even true.
MAIA
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Use, do not abuse; neither abstinence nor excess ever renders man happy.
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Re: Should we be allowed to... (poll) [Re: MAIA]
#4803051 - 10/14/05 12:56 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hardly a red herring when I watched in horror as I saw a former acquaintance dead from ingesting cyanide in the Heaven's Gate cult. He killed himself to go meet the non-existent Mother Ship hiding behind a comet.
Wacky beliefs beget wacky results.
Sane beliefs beget sane results.
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Re: Should we be allowed to... (poll) [Re: Swami]
#4803567 - 10/14/05 03:44 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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And tragic beliefs get tragic results...
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I know you think you understand the words I have just said to you but, what you fail to realize is, what you thought I said is not what I actually meant by saying what I said, when I said it.
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 Re: Should we be allowed to... (poll) [Re: Cervantes]
#4803642 - 10/14/05 04:02 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
when I watched in horror as I saw a former acquaintance dead from ingesting cyanide in the Heaven's Gate cult. He killed himself to go meet the non-existent Mother Ship hiding behind a comet.
Slippery slope
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He killed himself to go meet the non-existent Mother Ship hiding behind a comet.
Irrelevant conclusion
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Wacky beliefs beget wacky results.
Sane beliefs beget sane results.
False dichotomy, bifurcation
MAIA
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Spiritual being, living a human experience ... The Shroomery Mandala
Use, do not abuse; neither abstinence nor excess ever renders man happy.
Voltaire
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Re: Should we be allowed to... (poll) [Re: Swami]
#4803805 - 10/14/05 04:58 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Girls... girls!
You're BOTH pretty.
We still need to draw a CLEAR line on this issue. It CAN be done.
Let's hammer THAT out, instead of refining that lousy production number, "I Feel Pithy".
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I know you think you understand the words I have just said to you but, what you fail to realize is, what you thought I said is not what I actually meant by saying what I said, when I said it.
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dblaney
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Re: Should we be allowed to... (poll) [Re: dblaney]
#4807243 - 10/15/05 02:02 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Alright, the poll is now over, and it looks as if "Yes" won with 54% of the vote.
Mods?
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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"
"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer
Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.
"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln
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dblaney
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Re: Should we be allowed to... (poll) [Re: dblaney]
#4807685 - 10/15/05 04:15 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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So yeah, apparently the rules were changed a while ago...I'm slow
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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"
"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer
Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.
"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln
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