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We can only judge posts, not the attitude of the poster.

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If you wish to argue or debate the details of a common area of interest, ask the other person if they would like to as well before engaging in arguments.


Is that still confusing?

Can someone better with words tighten that up a bit?

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If you wish to argue or debate the details of a common area of interest, ask the other person if they would like to as well before engaging in arguments.


Is that still confusing?

Can someone better with words tighten that up a bit?

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I fear waiting for permission to question a person's beliefs, is too S L O W for The Shroomery.

This segragation AND lack of definition, is exactly why I suggested we keep S&P together, and move threads to SUBFORUMS when they became problematic.... otherwise, how the hell do we define this stuff?

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Maybe the exercise in patience will due some people some good to practice. Often when people go in for the argument debate attack, they are hot about something and that can create a quick  drama flair up and a strong reaction by someone caught off guard.

If they have to wait a bit first and or get a chance to put guards up to shift into debate mode when originally they were in pleasant discussion mode, the one side may cool down a bit FIRST, and the other, if willing to debate, will be able to shift to their own offensive stance instead of being caught off guard in a defensive "whiny stance". It could and should make for more FAIR, constructive and respectful debating.

Or is that to mature of a solution? Is it better to let people fly off the handle in debate attack mode when they are hot for the kill and let people get caught of guard get creamed before they even knew what hit them, then get whiny? Thats the stuff that creates a hostile drama filled environment. The people who like that have P&R.

There are a lot of people angry with the world who come to message boards just to abuse anything they see that looks weak, to take that aggression out to get some relief.

Thats BS for it to be dumped on people who want to have some light hearted discussion with people who share common interests on the Internet. I thought that was the main premise for the split. Some what heated debate with the S&P topics and some want chill discussion with them and some want a little of both.

I don;t see whats the big deal with asking a hot headed or angry hearted person to take a chill pill first and get permission to engage in a civilized duel with another who may be agreeable to that first.

What are we, savages who sneak attack the unarmed, from behind trees, or can we have civilized dueling matches with two parties agreed and prepared to duel arguments?

I think many who voted for the split just got tired of being in an angry, abusive, hostile conflict drama filled environment when they just wanted to freely and openly discuss "with guards down", things of a spiritual, religious, esoteric, mystical, philosophical nature.

Why are people having a hard time understanding and respecting that?

Maybe they should put a post up in the mental health forum asking people to help them with their problem of wanting to live in hostile abusive and angry environment where ever they go.

That's not healthy.

I don't think, these request for unagreed upon debate here will be given because that totally defeats the purpose and intent of why this forum was constructed. It was created for people who wanted to "discuss" areas of common interest, not debate them.

Asking questions to gain more information for learning and better understanding YES. Questioning just so you can get more information to tell people how wrong and delusional they are, NO.

If it did become accepted and allowed here, it would become just like the old S&P and be just like the P&R we have now.

Why do people who have no constructive interest in the subject matter of this forum, want so much to control, oppress and discourage the interest of others in it?

Every day, more and more people are waking up to the intangible realities of spirit and for some reason, that seems to scare people. So they try to attack and kill what they fear. Maybe they have made some headway with it at the shroomery, but they can't stop it happening on a global scale. Maybe it's time they learn to get a grip on themselves with it.

Some people just want to sometimes share care learn love and grow in a healthy constructive environment peacefully, with some good natured humor thrown in.

Like that is such a bad thing. The world could use a lot  more of it from my view.

What kind of mind says, "Oh NO! We will have NONE of THAT!" ?