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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Foley]
    #4640446 - 09/09/05 11:32 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Ive done the anal route, only cause its more instantly effective than sublingual. Im not scared of my butthole, yet its only to furthter the oral dose quickly.


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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: stemmer]
    #4640492 - 09/09/05 11:46 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I cant beleive those who would recommend 3.5+ grams to a newbie. That generally can tell you more quickly how many dont "get" the experience at all, and there are many inbetween. Its above their heads. And for those who dont see any harm in doing this stuff in massive 10 gram doses more than once per year, thats cause your not very smart, and couldnt possibly know what this is doing to you. partly cause It takes that much for you to trip "hard", and most of all, because you dont know what your looking for. Beleive it or not, alot of people think this stuff is just for an intense body high, good times, and visuals. Go figure morons would just end up takeing more than 10 grams at a time. These polls just go to show ya how stupid people are. If I were a newbie and took 5 grams, id look at those %'s and think, wow, even these shroomery people are stupid and nonobservant!!! Not to mention the ever so unhealthy anxiety attack that 3.5 grams+ could cause in a newbie.
None the less, these polls are interesting


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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: stemmer]
    #4645580 - 09/11/05 09:46 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I've seen people refer to the level of their trip. Is there a guide that rates the effects and let's one know the level they reached? A link please.

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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Bamaman]
    #4649394 - 09/12/05 07:31 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Nope. Just read the description and you will get a rough idea how far you or someone else where.


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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Kras]
    #4653943 - 09/13/05 05:01 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I have heard people mention that they had a "level 2", etc...

This level stuff has to be somewhere, just wanting to know where.


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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
    #4654570 - 09/13/05 10:18 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I like to smoke hash oil when I trip.


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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Bamaman]
    #4658495 - 09/14/05 03:58 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Bamaman said:
I have heard people mention that they had a "level 2", etc...

This level stuff has to be somewhere, just wanting to know where.




afaik the level system was popularised(?) by Alexander Shulgin in PIHKAL. (thats where i first encountered the system anyway)


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Re: The Great Mushroom Poll [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
    #4658499 - 09/14/05 04:01 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

For the "how long have you been tripping", all of them are accurate for me except the last one. Anyoen thats tripped can say yes to al of them but the last one.


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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: MagicalMystery]
    #4658535 - 09/14/05 04:40 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

This filthy couple I know have mushrooms growing out their asses. They haven't bathed in years. So when they feel like tripping out on some shrooms, they either eat each other's off their ass or just jam their own right into crusty sphincter and trip out for days, as they just keep jamming them up their rectums [rectum-wreckers] until they're gone and wait for some more to sprout, which doesn't take long with them. I can't even stand to go into their trailer.


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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: squidhead]
    #4658810 - 09/14/05 08:05 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

hmmm who the hell out there puts a mushroom up there ass ? ... lmmfao  :lol: :rofl2: :lol: :rofl2: :lol:


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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: RandomHero]
    #4659547 - 09/14/05 10:47 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

This whole anus thing: lemme just give a couple of facts.

the reason that rectal dosing works is the same as sublingual (under the tongue) dosing. apart from the very top and very bottom of the gut, the blood supply goes directly to and through the liver before getting into the main circulation. the liver is where most metabolism goes on, breaking chemicals down into other, usually less active chemicals. drugs absorbed through the membranes under the tongue or in the rectum dodge the liver first time round, so more gets to the heart (and thence the brain) than via the rest of the gut, and faster too.

this is called the 'first-pass effect'. it is for this reason that some drugs need so much higher doses to be effective when swallowed compared to when injected - opiates, for example - as they are almost completely metabolised in the liver before they even get to the rest of the body.

someone made a good point up above, though - no active chemicals can be released from sucking on a mushroom, or sticking an intact one up your arse: the actives would need to be in solution, so tea or a blended slurry would be needed. my advice to anyone thinking of 'plugging' their mushrooms: get a life you sad creatures. they're practically free to grow in abundant quantities, so why bother with that nastiness?


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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: shirley knott]
    #4660078 - 09/14/05 12:16 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

Great poll Wiccan  :thumbup:

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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: MAIA]
    #4669335 - 09/16/05 10:18 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I have gathered some interesting facts surrounding first-time dosing. I believe the best amount depends on the person and the mushrooms. I only deal with very strong mushrooms grown on seed and dung, so forget this if you are growing some BRF mushrooms or whatever. My experience shows that one must take the following into account:

Okay, for a first-timer, start with about 2.0 grams and then add or subtrace as follows:

1) How heavy is the person (body weight).
<110lbs - 1.0g
<160lbs - 0.5g
>200lbs + 0.5g
>270lbs + 1.0g

2) Does the person REGULARLY smoke pot (as in once a month or more)?
Yes + 1.0g

3) Is the person intellectual (college professional type), tense, in a difficult period of life now, or high strung?
Yes - 0.5g

4) Does the person regularly do LSD or other high-power hallucinogens?
Yes + 1.5g


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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Blue Helix]
    #4704422 - 09/24/05 07:42 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

"3) Is the person intellectual (college professional type), tense, in a difficult period of life now, or high strung?
Yes - 0.5g"

ehm? why should intellectuals take less? also : do you consider intellectuality to be on the same level as being tense or having difficulties in life?

i consider myself a little bit of an intellectual, yet i find myself taking higher doses than most people around me.

The only things i could really agree on is : the lower your bodyweight the lower the dose, the bigger your personal problems AT THE MOMENT OF TRIPPING the lower the dose, the less experience with other drugs the lower the dose.

I'd say 2,5 grams is the best average for a firsttime trip, only take less then that if you weigh less then 60 kg. Never trip alone the first time, trip with a friend you can trust and 2,5 grams will be just fine. The last thing you want is a bad trip, but being hardly affected at all is almost just as bad as that.

Of course that's just my opninion, just thought i'd add an alternate view


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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: theFutureIsSweet]
    #4704449 - 09/24/05 08:02 AM (6 years, 8 months ago)

I think he means that intellectuals need to take less (rather than should) because people who heavily invest in psychological and mental stuff tend to be able to intensify the trip with their mind more than people who go for esthetic pleasures and delicate emotions.
Neither is less than the other.

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The last thing you want is a bad trip, but being hardly affected at all is almost just as bad as that.




I think most people would prefer twenty trips of being hardly effected to having to go through bad trips like some I've seen. And worse still: some people emerge from bad trips with fullblown Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome which haunts them for months or years.

I don't think you know just how excruciating bad trips can get.

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I'd say 2,5 grams is the best average for a firsttime trip, only take less then that if you weigh less then 60 kg. Never trip alone the first time, trip with a friend you can trust and 2,5 grams will be just fine. The last thing you want is a bad trip, but being hardly affected at all is almost just as bad as that.





Good advice. The Shroomery average dose is two-thirds of 1/8oz, so a tad shy of your dose. I believe it is too much and that it should be 1.5gr at the very most, but I'm far, far away on the other side of the graph. I'm 300lbs and twice as sensitive as the average user.


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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
    #4706668 - 09/24/05 05:56 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

nitrous oxide as a -trip reset button- works great if available. else...
take a deep breath and hold it for a second.. take another one,, deeper.. this relaxes ur muscles and in turn ur mood.
a simple smile if u can hold one is usefull for elevating ur mood too.

if worse comes to worse.. if safety permitting.. take off ur shoes. and stop what ur doing.. take a look around and ask yourself.. is there anything really wrong?

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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: 3six5]
    #4707764 - 09/24/05 10:35 PM (6 years, 8 months ago)

First off:
Dosage sometimes can be tricky. Ones that are picked at the right time are stronger as well as wild ones. I can't stand the taste of them. I've made a tea instead and it seems to start you off faster. I no longer do shrooms though, but enjoy looking for them for the heck of it. I don't pick'em, just like knowing they're there if i did want.

I just think it's amazing what they do. I also think it's a trip all active shrooms are edible as far as know anyway. Shrooms are a trip.


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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: BOGUART]
    #4724112 - 09/28/05 04:57 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

for the people that have tripped 100+ times... how many bad trips have you had and have you noticed any difference in your mentality since say after only 5 times of shrooming.... and if yyou have noticed a difference, what exactly is it??


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Re: How..... [Re: AliceDee]
    #4724338 - 09/28/05 07:15 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Reading that very interesting poll Has me wondering how I would go about smokin' some mushies, I like to smoke a lot of weed and to smoke mushies really does appeal to the smoke machine in me, also is it stronger to ingest them up your arse and how would i do that?
I notice also some of the posts on here are pretty old which could suggest i am wasting my time even posting this question.


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Re: How..... [Re: headlylemar]
    #4744466 - 10/02/05 06:01 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

You could puree fresh mushrooms or reconstitute dried shroom powder with a bit of water to a sludge and squirt this up your rear.

The fact that this is more than twice as pften done as smoking shows how smoking mushrooms is indeed ineffective and very noxious.


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