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OfflineMuppetz
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Amanita muscaria, which kind to choose?
    #4642886 - 09/10/05 06:30 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

I see there are a bunch of differnt kinds, anyone know the differnce between them and do these shoorms give you the normal trip that normal shrooms do?


Amanita muscaria var. formosa--1 Ounce

Arizona Amanita muscaria--Grade A Caps--1 Ounce

European Amanita muscaria--Grade A--1 Ounce

Panther Amanitas--Caps--Ounce

Siberian Amanita muscaria Grade A--1 Ounce


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Re: Amanita muscaria, which kind to choose? [Re: Muppetz]
    #4642993 - 09/10/05 07:19 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

can't say that i do know the checmical differences between them, but they all contain muscimol/ibotenic acid. might contain some other slightly differing alkaloids, but generally speaking, they are regarded as the same. this trip is vastly different from psilocybin, found in your typical "magic mushroom".

many users report stomach cramps (allegedly from the ibotenic acid). in my experience there was no euphoria such as with typical shrooms and no sense of harmony or morphing/blending/coloration differences. but i did hallucinate and experience the death/rebirth cycle.

research it, but dont take it for fun.


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Re: Amanita muscaria, which kind to choose? [Re: puwtrip]
    #4643067 - 09/10/05 07:51 PM (8 years, 10 months ago)

the american strain of the Amanita muscaria is said to only provoke sweating and stomach pain, but the sieberian stain induces visuals, and more of a "trip" sensation. Alot of how the Amanita muscaria effects you has to do with how you prepare it. unlike psil(cy)be cubenis mushrooms, heat actually triggers the active ingredients needed to experiance trips, instead of destroying it. if you cut the skin of the caps of and let sit in an open oven on 170 - 200 degrees un trill dryed out it should properly prepare for a trip. when you heat it it will sweat out juices, you'll want to pout those juices back over the skin so it can re-absorb those,(some people sat it helps) after about 20 minutes you should be good to go, any way i'd pick the sieberian strain.
check out this site for more on the amantia muscaria("fly agaric")
http://peyote.com/jonstef/flyagaric.htm :mushroom2:


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Re: Amanita muscaria, which kind to choose? [Re: MurflurmMinty]
    #4792636 - 10/12/05 02:25 PM (8 years, 9 months ago)

go with a combo of siberian and arizona like 5 grams of each if you want to kick it up a notch or two even 1. eat 10g of each raw dried then 2. put tea on of 5g of on the stove each 3. then smoke pot and wormwood mix while its cooking then 4. drink tea 5. wait till effect are at peak then smoke more and your set for all day i recomend doing it with friends and a smoke using blunt or bowl not joints so i recomend anyone that likes amanita to try this and if you want to make stronger add cream to the tea


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you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours


Edited by thedudenj (10/15/05 01:19 AM)


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Re: Amanita muscaria, which kind to choose? [Re: puwtrip]
    #8731454 - 08/06/08 12:19 AM (5 years, 11 months ago)

I've eaten V muscaria and formosa's i've found here in Georgia, i've gotten visuals, and had violent vomiting fits. :mushroom2:


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Re: Amanita muscaria, which kind to choose? [Re: PinkBaphomets]
    #8732982 - 08/06/08 12:17 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

the panther one, i believe, is much harsher...i would maybe stay away from that. lots of bad trip reports, ive read. but definitely pick a high grade one, or you'll end up eating inch worms, as has been my experience from online purchases...


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Re: Amanita muscaria, which kind to choose? [Re: kodakya]
    #8733742 - 08/06/08 03:19 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

yeah i dont suggest you use it. if they are dried they dont have worms.... the wormds would be dead. if you have ever dried, with worms in them the whole thing rots and then melts. 
i suggest picking em and proper ID


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours


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Re: Amanita muscaria, which kind to choose? [Re: thedudenj]
    #8733853 - 08/06/08 03:37 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

yeah, i think the person ordered from alienthings and got a very low grade, like D or F, or something...but anyway, there were definitely worms in it, but it was my first time with an amanita so i did it...gross..ive had intestinal pains ever since, and its been a year. no joke. but probably not related...right??? ew


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Re: Amanita muscaria, which kind to choose? [Re: kodakya]
    #8733899 - 08/06/08 03:43 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

holy shit!!!! if they are Dried they cant have worms. the worms dye in drying process specially if oven dried. Grade A can have worms in em. Grade difference means the difference between

these crazy looking ones

and these not so crazy







i have alot of EXP in the collection and use of amanita.


any who the fact of the matter is they are medicine and if its not yours to be taking its probably not gona treat you so well.

amanita in general cause gastro-intestinal.

ill also go to say if cooked even if it has worms in them dead worms are protien. ^.^:crazy2:


i noticed theres a drastic differnce in chemicals in amanita depending on season. The summer ones i had this year were really rough super potent and gave me horrible pain cause i over dosed, they went right thru in the form of a really smelly vomit. then i tripped far too hard

with that batch 1/4 a cap was a strong dose, i had about 3 caps and used it on someone and i had to blance their energy which wasnt pleasent specially with how sick their soul was


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours


Edited by thedudenj (08/06/08 03:49 PM)


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Re: Amanita muscaria, which kind to choose? [Re: thedudenj]
    #8733917 - 08/06/08 03:47 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

yeah, the last time i ate them, it was pretty good...minus a weird blackout at the end and need to puke...but otherwise, it was good. um, but these internet ones, i dont know...maybe the worms got in there during storage?? anyway, just a warning to any internet purchasers, i suppose. the good ones i got were from a local book & herb store.


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Re: Amanita muscaria, which kind to choose? [Re: kodakya]
    #8733947 - 08/06/08 03:51 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

i dont suggest buying them at all amanita should be blessed when using them period like how ayahuasca needs to be blessed.  black outs can happen i dont suggest them being used any one other then magic healer people or under their guidance. for example we have the shroomery memeber who was throwen in a rage and attack his dog on willingly. you can black out and get hurt and im sure worse things can happen


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours


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Re: Amanita muscaria, which kind to choose? [Re: thedudenj]
    #8733976 - 08/06/08 03:55 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

that could probably said about most drugs, nj. i mean, blackouts and worse things...it doesnt mean "average" people cant use them responsibly, though. its a learning experience, either way. i will probably not eat as much next time, but i cant even be sure that my response was from that or from even dehydration or something. anyway,


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Re: Amanita muscaria, which kind to choose? [Re: kodakya]
    #8734045 - 08/06/08 04:09 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

when working NDMA antagonists its a bit differnt tho. Its similar to people that black out on K or PCP. amanita are a bit more risky specially since potency varies greatly from mushroom to mushroom where cubes for example have a general standard yeild of drugs. Im just saying amanita are a really risky thing.


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours


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Re: Amanita muscaria, which kind to choose? [Re: thedudenj]
    #8734063 - 08/06/08 04:12 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

yes, that can be true. but i recommend them and dont want to discourage anyone from trying, just so long as they are respectful and responsible, as should be the case with any substance. SUNSHINE


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Re: Amanita muscaria, which kind to choose? [Re: kodakya]
    #8734076 - 08/06/08 04:14 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

yeah i have to agree with that, amanita have a spirit and when its given the proper respect it will treat you proper


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours


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Re: Amanita muscaria, which kind to choose? [Re: thedudenj]
    #8734142 - 08/06/08 04:26 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

i was eating it and walking around the lake and thinking about the plants around me, and everything was great then. it didnt have any adverse effects until eight hours later, after a nap, and i got carried away and excitable; your attitude can definitely affect things...


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Re: Amanita muscaria, which kind to choose? [Re: kodakya]
    #8734247 - 08/06/08 04:49 PM (5 years, 11 months ago)

with out a doubt and prenap/ OBE


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"You all are just  puppets... You have no heart...and cannot feel any pain...""
you may think thats pain you feel but you must have a heart to feel true pain and that pain wont be yours


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