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Re: Utah rave illegally shut down by swat! [Re: Cowgold]
    #4566959 - 08/22/05 03:44 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Utah rave illegally shut down by swat! [Re: Cowgold]
    #4566965 - 08/22/05 03:46 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Posse Comitatus clarifications emphasize supportive and technical assistance (e.g., use of facilities, vessels, aircraft, intelligence, tech aid, surveillance) while generally prohibiting direct participation of DoD personnel in law enforcement (e.g., search, seizure, and arrests).


It's hard to tell if it applies... there was no smuggling involved.

And can this Utah Rave situation even be classified as Military action?






yes, thats the what over rides the Posse Comitatus Act, as for the Utah raid, it was certainly a police raid, the uniforms had no military patches or insignia
I had mentioned that there is a militarization of the police forces, look around
at all the cops now wearing BDUs as daily uniforms and at swat teams, many of
the police departments are also issuing SMGs as standard raid weapons


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Re: Utah rave illegally shut down by swat! [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #4566977 - 08/22/05 03:50 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

:thumbup:  Healthy discussion... This is certainly an issue we all need to address.


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Re: Utah rave illegally shut down by swat! [Re: Cowgold]
    #4567238 - 08/22/05 04:57 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

I still cant believe this really happened. I've been following everything as much as possible while im at work and i just wanna say u guys rock! best info ive gotten is from u and the links u've posted! i <3 shroomerites...were soooo smart!


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Re: Utah rave illegally shut down by swat! [Re: lostinthestarzzz]
    #4568387 - 08/22/05 09:29 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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Cowgold said:
Posse Comitatus Act

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posse_Comitatus_Act

this happened also in 1992 at RUBY RIDGE

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruby_Ridge

our government should have no excuse to use military tactics on civilians.

The Posse Comitatus Act was passed after the Civil War.




don't worry, pretty soon they'll have "non-lethal" death rays to use on us, just watch the discovery channel's weapons shows some times...

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Non-lethal weapons range from the simple - modernized string-and-ball bolas used for centuries by South American cowboys to tangle the legs of wayward cattle - to highly technical, new devices that nauseate by shaking the internal organs with sound or mildly cooking them with microwaves.




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At the Los Alamos National Laboratories, for example, scientists are developing lasers for temporarily blinding opponents. The prototype weapon emits a continuous visible light beam that has the same effects as an oncoming car's high beams - only some types can cause permanent blindness.




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Even more advanced, and controversial, are a variety of megaphone-like devices that emit sound waves capable of knocking over an adversary. More advanced sonic weapons cause the adversary's internal organs to vibrate, inducing a crippling nausea and severe pain.

Some of the most exotic experiments entail harnessing microwaves, the very same used in microwave ovens, to induce almost instant fevers or seizures by heating the body to as much as 107 degrees.




http://www.hartford-hwp.com/archives/27a/057.html

that's just the stuff they tell us about.


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Re: Utah rave illegally shut down by swat! [Re: afoaf]
    #4569434 - 08/23/05 03:47 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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I think this is a good thing.

Raves are bad for your brain.

Look what they did to 40.




maybe if you stopped eating dick,
you wouldnt be soo fat.
whats your point? :shrug:


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Re: Utah rave illegally shut down by swat! [Re: leery11]
    #4569574 - 08/23/05 06:33 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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leery11 said:
don't worry, pretty soon they'll have "non-lethal" death rays to use on us




I like the idea but can we make them hurt a bit more before their innards come
boiling out of their mouths, that would make for great visuals for someone tripping


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Re: Utah rave illegally shut down by swat! [Re: lostinthestarzzz]
    #4569584 - 08/23/05 06:40 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

This had a brief mention on Good Morning America, just thought I'd throw that out there.


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Re: Utah rave illegally shut down by swat! [Re: Organic]
    #4569607 - 08/23/05 06:59 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

was it in a positive or negative way towards the cops


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Re: Utah rave illegally shut down by swat! [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #4569917 - 08/23/05 08:57 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

i went to a festival here in Maine a few years ago (Fudafest) and it got raided by a task force with full camo suits and assault rifles, along with a bus-load of cops. very unexpected.

I remember I was just walking around near the entrance, stoned and a little bored, and then I see this bus driving up the road with armed officers running along side of it - all these guys toting machine guns just start rushing out of nowhere and right passed me.

i heard they were looking for a large amount of drugs that the property owner was supposed to be in possession of. they didn't find any, so they just took all the festival's donation money and left.


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Re: Utah rave illegally shut down by swat! [Re: Grav]
    #4570211 - 08/23/05 10:18 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

sounds like a robery to me, had they found drugs in the owners posession it would have been a seizure


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Re: Utah rave illegally shut down by swat! [Re: lostinthestarzzz]
    #4571253 - 08/23/05 02:51 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Words escape me........this is sickening, absolutey disgusting. Let's hope that ALL of those responsible pay, and that word gets out....on a national level. It's past time the blind Americans are forced to see what is being done to their brothers and sisters. Karma is a bitch, these pigs would do well to contemplate that. God is not pleased.  :nonono: :thumbdown:


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Re: Utah rave illegally shut down by swat! [Re: Dark_Star]
    #4571379 - 08/23/05 03:33 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

trick daddy said it best

"Niggas who out on bond
On the run
Got 10 years on parole
Since you can't say it dog I'ma say it for ya'll
Motherfuck the po-po's
Fuck the judge and CEO's
Fuck the DA and PO's"


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Re: Utah rave illegally shut down by swat! [Re: 40oz]
    #4575081 - 08/24/05 02:01 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

maybe, but you'll never get your brain back.


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Re: Utah rave illegally shut down by swat! [Re: afoaf]
    #4575300 - 08/24/05 03:08 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

i never had one to begin with, stupid.

go paint your bathroom pink, martha stewart boi.  :ooo:


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Re: Utah rave illegally shut down by swat! [Re: 40oz]
    #4577543 - 08/25/05 12:53 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Bahahaa, courtesy of my boy chad:

http://www.echoradio.org/~nait_sirhc/america.wmv


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Re: Utah rave illegally shut down by swat! [Re: 40oz]
    #4578336 - 08/25/05 09:40 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

martha doesn't have a thing on me.


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Re: Utah rave illegally shut down by swat! [Re: afoaf]
    #4580394 - 08/25/05 03:58 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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martha doesn't have a thing on me.




cmon kip, its "martha aint got shit on me"



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