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OfflineKairoAnnunaki
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Over analyzing things.
    #4557851 - 08/20/05 05:45 AM (9 years, 30 days ago)

Is it bad? I mean, I know it can be. But there must be logic within over analyzing things. Now, I'm not comparing us to Einstein. But in a sense we would be like Einstein, if this is right:

Einstein, did he over analyze everything, taking a interest in what he loved, math? Now, then why did he love math? Was he trying to explain to us, the existence of this reality from math? Because he realized that this reality could not come from itself because he saw with his eye that if one thing such as a tree comes from a seed? This "law", this "common sense", that is set in stone throughout this whole entire physical reality.

But then there is no logic in over analyzing:

"My monitor is made from glass, which comes from the desert, which comes from another planet which came together by other molecules which Martians might have made one million eons ago" there is no logic in this. There is... fiction, because there is not enough over analyzing.


Urgh. Help me out here. I need some sense knocked into my brain, I hope it can be permanent from a wise one.


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Re: Over analyzing things. [Re: KairoAnnunaki]
    #4557920 - 08/20/05 07:18 AM (9 years, 30 days ago)

i think your hung up on the word "over analyzing". If you are analyzing something too much or too little, it doesnt really matter because there is no wrong or right amount to analyze something, just different possible outcomes depending on the amount of time you spend analyzing.


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Re: Over analyzing things. [Re: KairoAnnunaki]
    #4558039 - 08/20/05 09:39 AM (9 years, 30 days ago)

sometimes it hurts if you rub it too much
we have to retain that sensitivity
it could be different for different people.

if you have OCD you know what I mean


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Re: Over analyzing things. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #4558227 - 08/20/05 10:54 AM (9 years, 30 days ago)

sometimes it hurts if you rub it too much

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Re: Over analyzing things. [Re: KairoAnnunaki]
    #4558580 - 08/20/05 12:37 PM (9 years, 30 days ago)

There is a limit set by human understanding when it comes to analyzing a given phenomenon. I am not a mathematician, but I've received and been trained in Jungian analysis. If one associates too many symbols taken from mythology, religion, fairytails, art, etc. to a dream image, one ends up hiding the very thing you are trying to understand. Or, one ends up forcing an interpretation that does not fit the phenomenon.

Now, a regress in the origin of phenomena like the glass in your monitor can be a very useful exercise if one comes to perform that kind of analysis on every object in one's perceptual field. In your example however, you went off-track with probable origins and stuck some fanciful ones in. The glass does come from silica sources like desert sand, which is one of the elements on Earth which separated from the other elements when the probable glob of solar material cooled into our planet.

End of story unless you want to speculate on the birth of our sun, and the nursery which bore it. Then further back to speculate on the Big Bang and its origin from the Singularity...and its origination as the 'Tsim Tsum' or divine contraction of GOD's Being to form a void into which the Divine Ideas could manifest physically. Even here, it is all speculation. Speculation is fine, but one doesn't want to drive oneself mad with possibilities. Stay in the present with what you know with senses and logic. Speculation enjoins intuition, and if intuition is your 'inferior function' then you can do work to strengthen it.


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Re: Over analyzing things. [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #4558670 - 08/20/05 01:00 PM (9 years, 30 days ago)

one ends up hiding the very thing you are trying to understand. Or, one ends up forcing an interpretation that does not fit the phenomenon.

This sounds like what a lot of researchers who can't see the forest for the trees or who interpret their data in a manner that "proves" their theory.

"Overanalyzing" for the average person doesn't usually mean overspeculation. It means they are stuck in a loop of thinking about the same problem and the unsatisfactory or uncontrollable solution they don't want to face or can't change anyway. They may be oblivious to the obvious solution or just in denial of it's existence.


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Re: Over analyzing things. [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #4558737 - 08/20/05 01:15 PM (9 years, 30 days ago)

well
the mind is like a lens

each idea you hold up is like a piece of film with light passing through it and, the process of analysis holds ideas over other ones and observes how some edges correspond between them when they overlay eachother.

so holding up the pictures of two things as a composed overlay can lead to some pretty good analysis, but you can wear it out by just going over and over the same details of the composite thing.

so by changing the perspective or the comparison idea at least, you can completely change the shape of the lens, and now the same issue is a different one, and bears near endless analysis if you like.

to keep it fresh, kick out an old layer (idea) and introduce a new one.


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Re: Over analyzing things. [Re: KairoAnnunaki]
    #4558860 - 08/20/05 01:40 PM (9 years, 29 days ago)

"Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind.
Withering my intuition, missing opportunities and I must
Feed my will to feel my moment drawing way outside the lines."


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Re: Over analyzing things. [Re: KairoAnnunaki]
    #4559292 - 08/20/05 03:40 PM (9 years, 29 days ago)

It's only over analyzing if the analysis becomes wrong. Otherwise, you're on the right track.


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Re: Over analyzing things. [Re: KairoAnnunaki]
    #4559976 - 08/20/05 07:10 PM (9 years, 29 days ago)

Is over-analyzing really the way of separating fact from fiction?

It is definitely a way, but it can also lead you elsewhere...
Over doing anything does not really guarantee you results.
What good is to over analyze little and mixed false information
based on assumption and what not?

It is wiser to concentrate your energies in absorbing correct
information, and thus eliminate the unnecessary "over-analyzing"
of false information.

Of course if you analyze you may gain knowledge, and if you
over-analyze you may gain even more knowledge but this is definitely
not the way as you put it.


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Re: Over analyzing things. [Re: redgreenvines]
    #4560518 - 08/20/05 09:53 PM (9 years, 29 days ago)

Hmmmm...Yeah.  :smile:


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Re: Over analyzing things. [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
    #4560578 - 08/20/05 10:05 PM (9 years, 29 days ago)

Quote:

McKennaDMT said:
"Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind.
Withering my intuition, missing opportunities and I must
Feed my will to feel my moment drawing way outside the lines."


McKennaDMT :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2:




Tool?  :grin:

Though, I agree. Very well put redgreenvines btw. And yes I agree that we shouldn't speculate things without logic, I must keep such things in mind next time. Hmm.


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