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 muidumees
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 Re: poppy pics [Re: DeQuincy]
#4506255 - 08/07/05 04:33 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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this is strange indeed. (taking into count my severe opioid craving = chronic pain syndrome) are you sure they are somniferum?
I have no idea about the origin. my parents bought the house two years ago and the poppies were just there.
I did not boil the tea at all. I put the grinded stuff (used a regular kitchin combine blender) into a cup and poured boiled water on top of it, letting it stir for 15 minutes.
I have tried everything. first collected the milky stuff, out of the pod, eating it, then making tea out of the same pods, drinking it, carfully also rinsing the blender, as it had some milky stuff stuck on the walls. drank this wash-out-water.
the growing conditions should be quite regular. there are other flowers, strawberries and different vegetables growing well in the garden. the climate conditions are similar to england.
would it make more sense to see that the environment is better or plant new seed for next year? (strange enough, my mom has accepted to do that, if I get the seeds)
Can it be me? High doses of codeine dont give me any buzz at all (240mg) while the first time I took tramadol, it was vow. and I have had an obsession with opiates ever since. I have been on tramadol for a year now, averaging 200mg daily. the only thing I can think off, is that the potency is so low that my tolerance from tramadol makes up for it.
I did get a "feeling" out of it once out of the 5 tries, when I made tea from 3 pods,(but i had had a glass of shamphange as well). it sort of made me close my eyes and find the most comfortable position on the couch, but it passed within 15 minutes.
I will, (if there are any pods left  ) try eating the whole pod as well.
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Tramadol blocks MOR (it, or metabolites, is probably an agonist-antagonist; there's a warning in the packae insert of Tramadex, a generic, against using while dependent on opioids as it can precipitate withdrawal symptoms, though I haven't encountered this piece information elsewhere). Hence the lack of effects.
I don't think it's good to post a personal question in a general thread, especially a stickied one. This is what makes the Shroomery much more of a chit-chat board than a discussion forum.
Edited by stvip (08/07/05 06:17 AM)
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Re: poppy pics [Re: stvip]
#4506395 - 08/07/05 07:29 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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>I don't think it's good to post a personal question in a general >thread, especially a stickied one. This is what makes the Shroomery >much more of a chit-chat board than a discussion forum.
Sorry, I never really read through the forum but found the thread on a google search.
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heres what 54 grams of ice-o-late opium looks like
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What do you mean " Ice-O-late"
is that the process where you freeze the liquid pod extract half way to separate the morphine salts from the other stuff and then discard the ice?
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thats the one
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Damn i bet thats alot of salts too 54 grams.. yummy 
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I made that with by letting pods sit in the fridge with water for 12 hours, then filtered(Could have filtered again) Then froze the liquid twice, removing ice and throwing it away both times. Im guessing 1.5-2g of goo
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How many pods is that from?
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10 or so pods, and the roots
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Hi everyone, I gotta say this is the most informative forum I've ever visited. Thanks for all the enlightened info, kudos!!! The question that I have is this; How does one make "red rock","white rock" and "dragons blood incense"? I've searched all over this site and have found no mention of these products. Years ago a "foaf" had some red rock and said the experience was pheonominal. Are these real products or is my "foaf" "fos"(full of shit)??? 
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Re: Red Rock [Re: 9005]
#4544892 - 08/16/05 11:16 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Heh.. red rock or dragons blood incense is...
incense! it's the biggest scam in the book. Not sure why its a scam as it resembles opium in no way, but all across the country, if not world, the scam exists. and there will always be the people who swear what they're getting is real (i love the.. "you can tell it's real because it smells like flowers")
You generally won't find real opium for sale. 99% of anything sold will be this fake crap. If its real.. you or someone nearby should know the very pods it came from. Thats not to say there aren't exceptions. Just always assume, if you're offered opium, that it's fake until proven otherwise. If you know what to look for, you probably won't be proven otherwise.
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Quote:
10 or so pods, and the roots
Leaves contain opium. Roots contain undesirable alkaloids, with negligible amounts of morphine.
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Re: poppy pics [Re: stvip]
#4549569 - 08/17/05 10:19 PM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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You sure about that??
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Mitchnast
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i know for sure that the roots are pretty much bunk.
YES they CONTAIN morphine, but they also are exposed to water frequenly and morphine washes away faster than sugar.
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Yea thats a good point, I dont even like opiots. It was just an experiment to see if it realy worked. My friend said the same as your friend, didnt like smokin it, but was amazed by the power of eating a small amount.
Why do you think smoking it didnt work well? Im guessing purity, but due to the dosage of eating it id think its preaty dam pure. A buddy of mine is doing another test batch to see what he can come up with.
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most likely because smoking it only managed to singe the outermost layer, subequently trapping the majority of the morphine inside the mass and heat-damaging much of that which burned. direct flame is damaging. vaporizing works better, but still, the mass must be extremely dry (or youre smoking water vapor) and in powdery form (or youre trapping the good stuff in the mass.
if its not dry the water vaporizes first, in the time it takes to vaporize the water, youve heat-killed the chemicals.
so theoretically you can produce a smokable O his way, but you must have it cracker dry, and you must use a hookah or vaporizer. (i sugget not using tinfoil)
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A note on smoking poppy extracts:
Not so long ago I read a report about caffeine being mixed with opiates (heroin nr 3). The conclusion was that hardcore addicts preferred a 70/30 heroin/caffeine mix over a pure h-product. The reason for this was that the temperature at which opiates vaporises is very close to the temperature where it will decompose. Caffeine on the other hand vaporises at a much lower temp. And while it is vaporising, the heroin will, sort of, tag along. Making much more h available to the user. For the chemists: it is like a steam distillation of a non polar.
So my point: if you have some caffeine lying around (and doesn't everybody?) you might want to try a mix a little to your extract.
Just a thought...
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Whoa is me....but not really [Re: DeQuincy]
#4599325 - 08/30/05 01:40 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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Today as I looked out my window to see a cloudy sky after the remnants of hurricane Katrina passed through, I shuddered to think of my rookie crop of "Tazzies" were doing. So I jumped on the 4-wheeler to trek off to see how they were doing and my worst fears were confirmed. Two acres of tazzies were gone, along with @200 fem Durban Poisons! My first instinct was too pull my hair out or kick something, but then I thought about those poor unfortunate folks along the gulf coast who lost their lives or their homes. My heart immediately went out to them and it made my own problems seem so trivial. This is more proof that mother nature is a beautiful bitch mistress!!! Guess I'll have to wait until next year to try my first smoke of O. Having said all of that I do have one question. I have seen on Ebay that someone is selling pods, 400 for @$250. Is this a decent price and can tea/laudanum be made from these pods??? Thanks, and pm me if anyone would like to send any "O" donations to the less fortunate...lol... 
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Re: Whoa is me....but not really [Re: 9005]
#4600684 - 08/30/05 07:10 PM (6 years, 8 months ago) |
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hey just because al that incence bein sold is crap doesent mean we shouldent be able to make our won 'real opium' incence does it?
doesent any1 know a recepie?
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