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 Re: Petition to have Hanky's ban reduced to suspension [Re: Anno]
#4149201 - 05/08/05 01:19 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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What does 25 Celsius translate in Fahrenheit? They are in full sun, but it does get cold at night, like 35-40f sometimes. Its been in the 60s here.
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Re: Petition to have Hanky's ban reduced to suspension [Re: ToiletDuk]
#4149202 - 05/08/05 01:19 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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ToiletDuk said:
And what of the others, like Sykobish and lightningFractal?
lightningfractal was not banned, he asked about wine making and I pointed him to a web forum that he aparently enjoys, I'm sure they are much stricter but I'm sure he doesnt have 20 people giving him shit with each post because ho forgot to dot his I.
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Re: Petition to have Hanky's ban reduced to suspension [Re: Anno]
#4149203 - 05/08/05 01:19 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Okay, fine. What bothers me is the trend of increased bannings of established members. While I do agree with many of the rules (flaming in PA&L for example) the rules seem to be ever tightening, and I'm wondering if the time will come when someone is banned for expressing an opinion (in a civil way) that the powers-that-be don't like. Can we expect this? And if so, do let us know.....
Pris: I stand corrected then.
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Re: Petition to have Hanky's ban reduced to suspension [Re: GnuBobo]
#4149213 - 05/08/05 01:28 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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GnuBobo said:
I'm not going to get into how retarded he was. No one speaks for him because there wasn't shit there to speak for. You know that.
so then double standards should apply, hanky has done much of the same thing
the S_B has done, I certainly hope no one decides to talk about how modes make decisions based on bias any more
"you have a choice, you may have the thief, barabas, or Jesus whom I can see has comitted no crime."
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Re: Petition to have Hanky's ban reduced to suspension [Re: ToiletDuk]
#4149226 - 05/08/05 01:39 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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ToiletDuk said:
Okay, fine. What bothers me is the trend of increased bannings of established members. the rules seem to be ever tightening
does 3 years of trolling give a person less banability than some one with 3 weeks
of helpfulness, should it matter if a person has been here for a long time
if that person is increasingly creating problems for new and old users alike
rules wouldnt become stricter if people were willing to control and take
responsibility for their own actions.
there are cries to get new blood into OTD because people are becoming afraid
to post, I hear the same thing from no0bs with 1 or 2 posts in OTD, moderating
is a reaction to an action, not the reverse, some shit has gone on far too long
and some people are pushing it well past the limits of fun, when a no0b is told
he needs to post in the pub because his skin isnt thick enough for OTD, there is a problem, it prevents a user from making use of the full potential of the board
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Re: Petition to have Hanky's ban reduced to suspension [Re: Prisoner#1]
#4149229 - 05/08/05 01:40 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
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GnuBobo said:
I'm not going to get into how retarded he was. No one speaks for him because there wasn't shit there to speak for. You know that.
so then double standards should apply, hanky has done much of the same thing
the S_B has done, I certainly hope no one decides to talk about how modes make decisions based on bias any more
"you have a choice, you may have the thief, barabas, or Jesus whom I can see has comitted no crime."
Fine. I will devote myself to defending James Dobson as he has a right to speak his mind and desseminate his ideas, regardless how hateful or unfounded in corporeal reality that they are.
Super_Blunt was banned for a different reason than Hanky. They weren't the same type of poster, hence different treatment.
And of course I have bias. I have bias toward rationality and pragmatism.
edit: "and"
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Re: Petition to have Hanky's ban reduced to suspension [Re: GnuBobo]
#4149250 - 05/08/05 01:54 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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GnuBobo said:
And of course I have bias. I have bias toward rationality and pragmatism.
my bias is towards allowing people acces to the forums with out have to endure it as a hardship, I can deal with a few broken rules, I cant deal with this
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Re: Petition to have Hanky's ban reduced to suspension [Re: Prisoner#1]
#4149259 - 05/08/05 01:57 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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oookeeeey.
I'm not a mod.
But I don't think ALL of those PMs were in regards to Hanky. He's not THAT offensive. 
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Re: Petition to have Hanky's ban reduced to suspension [Re: Psychoslut]
#4149269 - 05/08/05 02:06 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Psychoslut said:
What does 25 Celsius translate in Fahrenheit?
77?F
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Re: Petition to have Hanky's ban reduced to suspension [Re: Prisoner#1]
#4149273 - 05/08/05 02:09 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Point taken. And yes, some do push the limits, to be sure, and they should be dealt with. But how far is too far? Now if I made a post in the Pub along the lines of "The Grateful Dead sucks dog balls", I would fully expect to be banned for that. But how about a posting like "I really don't care much for the Grateful Dead", should that also be a bannable offence?
And yes, there IS a lot of offensive material in OTD, but isn't that what it's purpose is? It does take a thick skin to stay in OTD, and there are just some who are too sensitive. This is the purpose of the Pub (or at least I assume it is). Not to state the obvious, but there are many more forums besides OTD and the Pub - these forums have much to offer. But if the goal is to make OTD another Pub, you might as well just get rid of OTD, as so many have advocated in the past.
And remember there are some people who are going to take offence at the slightest thing. Should we also cater to their every peccadillo? While I do admire you and your fellow admins efforts to try to make the 'Shroomery palatable to as wide a range of people as you can, you ain't gonna please everyone, no matter what you do.
By the way, (and to clarify) it's not just OTD I'm worried about - it's the 'Shroomery as a whole.
Okay, I'm done here. Thanks for listening!
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Re: Petition to have Hanky's ban reduced to suspension [Re: Anno]
#4149298 - 05/08/05 02:25 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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This explains my problem, its been way too cold.
Are my seeds ruined, or will they just grow when it gets warmer?
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Re: Petition to have Hanky's ban reduced to suspension [Re: Psychoslut]
#4149316 - 05/08/05 02:36 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hard to tell.
If they haven't rotten, then they will germinte once it gets warmer.
It is a good idea to germinate them indoors.
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Re: Petition to have Hanky's ban reduced to suspension [Re: Anno]
#4149320 - 05/08/05 02:40 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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They are in a pot, ill bring them in now.
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Re: Petition to have Hanky's ban reduced to suspension [Re: Anno]
#4149339 - 05/08/05 03:01 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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It is important that they get strong light as soon the seedling comes out of the soil. The goal is to obtain stong, short plants.
http://www.heirloomtomatoes.bizland.com/seedstarting.htm
http://www.floridata.com/tracks/peppergallery/start_pepper_plants.htm
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Re: Petition to have Hanky's ban reduced to suspension [Re: Anno]
#4149349 - 05/08/05 03:22 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Strong light? Not a problem .
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Re: Petition to have Hanky's ban reduced to suspension [Re: Anno]
#4149468 - 05/08/05 06:13 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Anno said:
Get real. The OTD rules clearly say NOT TO post bestiality pictures.
He couldn't resist.
He did not intentionally set out to break the rules. There was a reason he posted the pic - and it could have been any pic - what he thought was a funny pic - but upsetting mods and admins was not the reason. The intent was never malicious or provoking. It has nothing to do with not being able to resist etc. If he wanted to be malicious he would have just posted scat in the pub or a scat collage or something. I mean seriously - if he had of known it was an unallowed pic would he have posted it in a thread which Prisoner#1 was posting in quite a bit??. Lets think about that for a moment huh?
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He didn't get the indefinite ban for posting this picture, he got it because he was banned several times before already.
He has been posted several times for intentionally breaking the rules. This was a genuine and honest mistake. An easy one to make when you consider what is in OTD and what has been allowed etc. There are shock pics and scat pics and lots worse in OTD - you only need to know where to look.
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Re: Petition to have Hanky's ban reduced to suspension [Re: Anno]
#4149643 - 05/08/05 07:55 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Please bring back hanky our loveable little scamp. I promise he wont do anything bad ever again just bring him back anno...
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Why some rice farmers -- some rice eaters ran him out of Korea. Yes, they ran him out of Korea. Rice eaters with nothing but gym shoes, and a rifle, and a bowl of rice took him and his tanks and his napalm, and all that other action he's supposed to have and ran him across the Yalu. Why? 'Cause the day that he can win on the ground has passed.
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Re: Petition to have Hanky's ban reduced to suspension [Re: Anno]
#4149719 - 05/08/05 08:53 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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so anno, are you at least considering setting a duration on hanky's "indefinate" ban?
also, you really should consider re-writing the banning policy to make permabans only for those who threaten safety or security of the site or its members. mild to moderate rules violators, even repeat offenders should work their way up to a month long ban and that should be the cap.
I mean, people will get the message if they lose posting for a whole month, and if they don't, that doesn't matter either, because we'll only see them once a month. 
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Re: Petition to have Hanky's ban reduced to suspension [Re: The_Red_Crayon]
#4149720 - 05/08/05 08:53 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Everyone seems to be arguing a moot point. What should be argued about is the policy of "3 strikes and you're out", not the fact that he was banned. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: repeat offenders of petty crimes should never receive a permaban. He did nothing to compromise the safety of the site. Leave the permabans to those who threaten violence or do thinkgs like solicit drugs.
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Re: Petition to have Hanky's ban reduced to suspension [Re: Redstorm]
#4149725 - 05/08/05 08:57 AM (6 years, 9 months ago) |
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Redstorm said:
Everyone seems to be arguing a moot point. What should be argued about is the policy of "3 strikes and you're out", not the fact that he was banned. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: repeat offenders of petty crimes should never receive a permaban. He did nothing to compromise the safety of the site. Leave the permabans to those who threaten violence or do thinkgs like solicit drugs.
and like I said, it seems like many, many members see the wisdom in this.
It's like the Shroomery supports it's own manditory minimums. 
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