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tryppycryppy
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high dose mushrooms trips
#3493422 - 12/13/04 06:42 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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ive been using psychedelic mushrooms for a few years, with many, many experiences, and yet i still am afraid of high dose experiences. im not saying i havent tried large doses, the highest was around 4.5 dry grams of strong lab cubensis, but i do not have good experiences with a dose higher than about two grams, in general. the worst was at bonaroo where i chewed up a eigth of some very very pontent small mushrooms, unsure of strain, defintely not cubesis tho, and had a complete breakdown. a terribe, terrible, terrible trip consisting of police helicoptors, me convinced i had eaten multiple sheets of lsd and was never going to come down, all my friends screaming at me and my girlfriend of 3 years going in and out of tents fucking random guys. in reality, i was just sitting down staring into space looking like i was about to cry. damn, haha, i defintely have gotten over that and have had the best trips of my life since then, but its so discouraging about higher dose trips. its like, now i know the extent of how much your reality can be shattered, and i know how bad a bad trip can be. it makes me more comfortable at lower doses since ive "been there done that" concerning a unbelievabably bad trip, but i am scared to eat a full eigth (the mushrooms that i come across are unbelievably potent GTs with never a opened cap). i just wanted some other peoples' experiences with high doses, and how they deal with them, and maybe some advice about dealing with their doses? i feel strongly about the importance of psychedelic mushrooms and with every experience my mind gets blown more and more by revelations i experience while tripping, and i would like to experience a full eigth and have a good trip. i know how bad a trip can be and how distorted reality can get, and i really want to know how great a trip can get, like if the intensity of my bonaroo trip was one in a positive light, i think it would honestly be like being in heaven. any advice is appreciated. PS. its finals week and ive been taking adderol all day, so the above post might sound a bit rambling, edit if needed.
Edited by tryppycryppy (12/13/04 06:43 PM)
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zachwass2000
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Re: high dose mushrooms trips [Re: tryppycryppy]
#3493444 - 12/13/04 06:45 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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do you usually smoke weed with shrooms? weed may help you relax and enjoy yourself more on higher doses.
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tryppycryppy
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Re: high dose mushrooms trips [Re: zachwass2000]
#3493502 - 12/13/04 06:55 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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i always smoke alot when im tripping on mushrooms. i like to smoke a bowl or two at the peak and then alot when im starting to come down. it usually makes it more intense at the peak, but mellows me out when im coming down, while keeping everything very psychedelic. haha, i think id get freaked out tripping if i knew i had no weed to smoke.
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Re: high dose mushrooms trips [Re: tryppycryppy]
#3493697 - 12/13/04 07:26 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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5 grams and up has been my method for awhile. whe ni eat mushrooms i expect to lose my ego and see where my mind brings me, theres nothin to be afraid of, there mushrooms
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Re: high dose mushrooms trips [Re: tryppycryppy]
#3493739 - 12/13/04 07:32 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've got the same prob I took 8 grams a few months ago and so did my friend. We're talking major dreamstate. there was nothing to base reality on I was out of my body. It could have been good I think I could have handled it but on the way up my best friend really really freaked and brought me down. All I can say is take your time and work the dose up a little at a time. because you're naive to say you know how bad a trip can be or how distorted it can get. I know for fact you don't. It can always get worse. Which is why I'm searching for a reason why I should keep tripping. Make sure you have absolute privacy when you dose high and someone who doesn't mind helping you out if you get lost in your trip.
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tryppycryppy
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Re: high dose mushrooms trips [Re: NOS4A2]
#3494024 - 12/13/04 08:10 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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haha, your probably right, im sure it could get much, much worse
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mecreateme
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Re: high dose mushrooms trips [Re: tryppycryppy]
#3497771 - 12/14/04 02:36 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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When it is much, much worse, and you think you are ending the journey, you find that you are at the beginning of a new journey. Things are cyclical so that when you think it is as bad as possible, the mushrooms up the ante and blow away another thing you have in your head. When it can't get any worse or better it does. Ifinity is just the veil of the one.
And on the issue of dealing with high dose trips. Just be aware. That is all I do, sit there and be aware. Even if something is making me uncomfortable, I don't even react to it, I just breathe and look around. Go with the flow. The Beatles said: Let it be. That is really all you can do.
Oh yeah and you most definitely want to be alone on anything over five grams. It's not like you have to be alone but it get kind of hard to explain to friends what is going on when you piss your pants or shed all of your clothes. I do things like that to go with the flow. Sometimes you will just find that you need to piss on yourself or you just have to get out of your clothes. OH yeah and pissing on yourself feels great at first, but you pay later when your all cold and wet.=(
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Re: high dose mushrooms trips [Re: tryppycryppy]
#3498360 - 12/14/04 04:23 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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See;
"Ecstacy! in common parlance ecstacy is fun. But ecstacy is not fun. Your very soul is seized and shaken until in tingles. After all, who will choose to feel undiluted awe? The unknowing vulgar abuse the word; we must recapture its full and terrifying sense."
- Gordon Wasson
*the greatest of blessings come to us through madness, when it is sent as a gift of the gods. Heaven-sent madness is superior to man-made sanity.*
-Plato
The point is that your afraid. you - the ego - remains. You must abandon the ego - and seeing as you hold god's gifts in high regards you must examine your intent.
Sounds like your bonnaroo experience was with Cyans - in which an eighth is a very large dose. understandable of your freakout - not exactly the best atmosphere to loose yourself in. In that sort of atmosphere your taking sacrament to enhance your surroundings, Not to leave your body and enter realms of your past which you've forgotten and struggle with understanding when you do remember tis where you came from.
Its all the intent, the dose just magnifies the feelings present - be it uncomfortable or music enhancing or... The intent will allow a disciplined mind to let go on a low dose.
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Re: high dose mushrooms trips [Re: tryppycryppy]
#3499158 - 12/14/04 06:14 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Higher doses of shrooms bug me out sometimes too, I handle high doses of LSD much better, and therefore go farther then I ever could on shrooms. Give that a try man, a lot of people like acid better then shrooms.
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Re: high dose mushrooms trips [Re: mecreateme]
#3503975 - 12/15/04 02:27 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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peeing on yourself does make you very cold after
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twilight715
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Re: high dose mushrooms trips [Re: holio1]
#3504651 - 12/15/04 04:27 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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my first trip with about 7g dried cubes was ruined by a friend who took approx 14g and ultimately pissed on himself twice. he's a felon, now, having led police on a 10 mile car chase during his peak. if you're not comfortable with large doses, don't take em. shrooms shouldn't be about challenging your abilities, but about being comfortable. i could see where you would want to move up in doses, but don't force it. i would suggest doing an eighth, then going back to low doses for a while, and slowly move up the doses in this fashion, leaving breaks between each increase.
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Re: high dose mushrooms trips [Re: twilight715]
#3504697 - 12/15/04 04:31 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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I always love reading posts like this when they come up.
My first high dose trip (5+ grams) annihilated and uprooted me at the core of my being. It was terrifying, but I am planning to do it again in a few months, one year after the first time. It's safe to say I am pretty nervous about going through something like that again, but I'd feel even worse if I never went back "there," you know?
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Re: high dose mushrooms trips [Re: MOTH]
#3505385 - 12/15/04 06:10 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ive eaten 5 grams... and 6 grams.... both were level 3 trips... i am doing 5 again soon.... and with better mushrooms this time...
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MartincountyYahoo
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Wow man thats fucked up the bonnaroo story first of all if you werent sure of the shrooms you were eating you should have just a tiny bit to test the water if your unsure of what your eatin dont eat it.I have using and picking shrooms since 1991 have had alot of trips in that time mostly acid and shrooms but the most I did was thirty fresh caps of treasure coast I still cant forget that night and it was over 10 years ago it was the best was rational didnt flip out nothin like that but everyone is wired differently so be cautious but I have never seen or had a bad time on shrooms and have taken at least 300 trips on shrooms good luck bro
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brandydrinker
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Well, around here all I pick (or buy) is cyans & baeos. About a week ago we had snow, then a deep freeze. I ate 7 dried grams of cyans, wound up bundling up (it was about 10 degrees f), and going on a walk for about 6 hours. When I started to regain a somewhat normal mental standing, I went home and went to sleep. When I woke up, I had crusted blood inside my nose, probably from breathing the cold air for that long...
I guess there's no real point to my story, just thought I'd share. Just be careful, that's all. You could also try to take a valium/xanax/klonopin/etc. to keep you calm. BUT BE CAREFUL! I've had that work against me too. You can get TOO calm, lowered inhibitions, and have no regard to the fact that You're tripping, resulting in some extremely poor decisions.
All in all, just be careful, keep calm, and have fun!
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Quote:
MartincountyYahoo said: Wow man thats fucked up the bonnaroo story first of all if you werent sure of the shrooms you were eating you should have just a tiny bit to test the water if your unsure of what your eatin dont eat it.I have using and picking shrooms since 1991 have had alot of trips in that time mostly acid and shrooms but the most I did was thirty fresh caps of treasure coast I still cant forget that night and it was over 10 years ago it was the best was rational didnt flip out nothin like that but everyone is wired differently so be cautious but I have never seen or had a bad time on shrooms and have taken at least 300 trips on shrooms good luck bro
Do you realize this post was from 5 years ago?? and the OP hasn't been on here sense.
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brandydrinker
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Re: high dose mushrooms trips [Re: kyguy]
#13572504 - 12/02/10 10:04 AM (13 years, 3 months ago) |
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kyguy said: Do you realize this post was from 5 years ago?? and the OP hasn't been on here sense.
Haha oops on that one, didn't even notice. Thanks for taking the time to point that out! But yeah, thought it'd be fun to share my (heavily summarized) story, regardless of the OP'S posting date...oh and you misspelled "since". Much love my dude...
-AK
EDIT: The post was made 6 years ago. haHA!
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shallowbastard
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im not going to speak for everyone who uses psychedelics, but mushrooms can kick your fucking ass when you less expect it, no matter sex, color or religion, or how much of a hard ass you are.
personally, when the dose is high for me, i find it hard to get a grasp of the trip because there is so many things going on in my head at the same time; but when the dose is medium (not low but medium) its so much easier to understand concepts and whatnot.
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shit i took 2.7g of some mutant treasure coast that never opened up and had a blue tint to them. i oj teked them and eventually 3hrs into the trip i was still peaking with every rush about 5 min apart. i heard voices, i was able to see sounds in waves in cev. pictures were looking humble then they would morph into demonic faces that projected out at me as my fear was uncontrollable for that moment. i never felt fear like that in my life. i witnessed myself twice step out of myself and shoot myself in the head. i seen the matrix all over the walls and ceiling. it was heavy in my stomach, i was sweating perfusely in my face and i felt poisoned. i had to stop it so i drank a half gallon of water and vomited the remainder shrooms that were undigested. by the looks of it i would of been tripping for over 8hrs if i hadnt done that, never wanted to trip again until i reminised on it and how awsome it was eventhough i was scared. avoiding a oncomming bad trip is like watching porn and trying not getting aroused, "im not gonna think of sex, im not gonna think of sex" but that leads to thinking of sex, get it!.
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I've been eating mushrooms a few times a week for the last couple months, and I have found there are two ways you can go. An eighth to a quarter ounce is just giggly fun, and if you are really in it to expand your consciousness, which I am, a half to a full ounce is the way to go. I highly recommend not doing that much anywhere but home by yourself, as it can get overwhelming quick with too much outside stimulus. Take time to prepare your surroundings, and your mind, and just know it is best to clear your head of any expectations, because you will get exactly what you need, which is not usually what you think it is. Mushrooms are very simply a perfect thing, and large doses of them climb up in you and just by being there, begin to make you perfect.
If you can let go as it's happening, you can feel and see it restructuring your mind and body. It ends up being pretty hard work on your part (the mushrooms have already done their work, evolving to a perfect thing), but the results are beyond profound.
In these two months, mushrooms have rewired my mind and body to a point I never even imagined possible. With my last trip of .75 ounces resulting in the ability to taste music. I can't be sure it will last, but it's been three days, and it now seems I can turn it on and off at will.
To everyone out there wondering about high doses,definitely move up slowly, as I'm sure it's not for everyone, but if you can hit the ounce mark, you will begin to learn to fly, tripping and not.
Good luck and much love,
Jef
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